DFA*50 1.4 coming

**shardulm** · 11-30-2017, 10:27 PM

https://pentaxrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/HD-Pentax-D-FA-50-mm-f14...mple-photo.jpg

Sharp this thing is.. If you look at the facial details... man I can see the make up/layer of foundation on her cheeks...

leekil · 11-30-2017, 11:17 PM

But it seems like there are artifacts there? Makeup wouldn't have those lines in it.

Mistral75 · 11-30-2017, 11:41 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by mee

Correct. And facebook automatically strips EXIF so there is no way of knowing unless Ricoh share..

As for the aperture, considering the depth of field (her hat is in focus and so is the handle) I would say around f/2,8.

Zygonyx · 12-01-2017, 12:03 AM

Nice shot, but except for bokeh, almost non-informative regarding true lens performances...

repaap · 12-01-2017, 01:59 AM

That picture looks pretty darn good to me.............oh boy. Even if exif is not there, they teased everyone with this. Itäll be interesting spring to look how it will turn out to be. Luckily I don't have too much money and have already big pile for my LBA to go on before this one, but it looks good.

**Rondec** · 12-01-2017, 03:35 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

As for the aperture, considering the depth of field (her hat is in focus and so is the handle) I would say around f/2,8.

That's the question I have. If the aperture is f2.8 then it is pretty good performance, but most fast 50s are good at f2.8. The question is more how sharp it is at wider apertures than that.

I'm sure it will be a good lens, I just don't think this picture says much either way.

wanderer2 · 12-01-2017, 04:05 AM

Is there any info anywhere regarding how the lens will be priced?

repaap · 12-01-2017, 04:09 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

That's the question I have. If the aperture is f2.8 then it is pretty good performance, but most fast 50s are good at f2.8. The question is more how sharp it is at wider apertures than that.

I'm sure it will be a good lens, I just don't think this picture says much either way.

Well, her hair at fore head are out of focus and even other eye is little abit too. Handle and eye are at same level, so that’s why it is in focus too. Transit between Oof and focus is really subtle. Also clarity with hair falling down is really nice and tones. I suppose that it will be sharp and controlled lens, but it is not all about sharpness is it. For me that is almost too sharp already. Even pretty girl like that, and I hope that they softened it a bit for my taste..

beholder3 · 12-01-2017, 04:11 AM

Originally posted by wanderer2

Is there any info anywhere regarding how the lens will be priced?

The latest OEM 50mm F1.4 lens introduced to the market was a Sony.
It was introduced before the latest round of significant price increases (so today initial prices for new products might be higher) for 1,800 EUR ($2,137) incl. taxes.
Now you can start guessing what is realistic and what is wishful thinking.

Jeff Lopez · 12-01-2017, 09:22 AM

man, google translation sucks..
its says "lens developed under a high demand for performance"
Does this refer to user demands or Ricoh requirements towards a third party manufacturer?

Mistral75 · 12-01-2017, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by Jeff Lopez

man, google translation sucks..
its says "lens developed under a high demand for performance"
Does this refer to user demands or Ricoh requirements towards a third party manufacturer?

I would say it means Ricoh Imaging had pretty high demands vis-à-vis themselves (and their contractors by the same token) when developing this lens.

rangercarp · 12-01-2017, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by Jeff Lopez

its says "lens developed under a high demand for performance" Does this refer to user demands or Ricoh requirements towards a third party manufacturer?

It could refer to users demands, but most likely is referring to the demands of Ricoh's internal design team who created the lens. I'm not sure how you are seeing a third party manufacturer in that statement.

mee · 12-01-2017, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by repaap

Well, her hair at fore head are out of focus and even other eye is little abit too. Handle and eye are at same level, so that’s why it is in focus too. Transit between Oof and focus is really subtle. Also clarity with hair falling down is really nice and tones. I suppose that it will be sharp and controlled lens, but it is not all about sharpness is it. For me that is almost too sharp already. Even pretty girl like that, and I hope that they softened it a bit for my taste..

Unless RI shot that with a camera body outputting 2.5 MP, I'm going to say it was likely resized from a much larger original file. As a result, the downscaling can affect sharpness.

biz-engineer · 12-01-2017, 10:40 AM - **1 Like**

they say, "Price: To Be Defined". That lens is priceless.

Na Horuk · 12-01-2017, 11:06 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by mee

Unless RI shot that with a camera body outputting 2.5 MP, I'm going to say it was likely resized from a much larger original file. As a result, the downscaling can affect sharpness.

Definitely, all resizing affects the image. And we don't know what PP was done - is this in-camera jpeg development like you get by default? Or was the shot raw and processed in some editor? So sample photos like this are mostly a tease. We need to see actual dng files to truly evaluate the lens. But even this resized jpeg is much more than we got in a while, so its exciting. So far so good, I'd say. Hopefully the reviews and lab tests will confirm the lens' quality, but it will take long time before those get published

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11-30-2017, 10:27 PM	#2086
shardulm Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 793	https://pentaxrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/HD-Pentax-D-FA-50-mm-f14...mple-photo.jpg Sharp this thing is.. If you look at the facial details... man I can see the make up/layer of foundation on her cheeks...

11-30-2017, 11:17 PM	#2087
leekil Pentaxian Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Albums Posts: 2,003	But it seems like there are artifacts there? Makeup wouldn't have those lines in it.

11-30-2017, 11:41 PM - 1 Like	#2088
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by mee Correct. And facebook automatically strips EXIF so there is no way of knowing unless Ricoh share.. As for the aperture, considering the depth of field (her hat is in focus and so is the handle) I would say around f/2,8.

12-01-2017, 12:03 AM	#2089
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Nice shot, but except for bokeh, almost non-informative regarding true lens performances...

12-01-2017, 01:59 AM	#2090
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	That picture looks pretty darn good to me.............oh boy. Even if exif is not there, they teased everyone with this. Itäll be interesting spring to look how it will turn out to be. Luckily I don't have too much money and have already big pile for my LBA to go on before this one, but it looks good.

12-01-2017, 03:35 AM	#2091
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	Originally posted by Mistral75 As for the aperture, considering the depth of field (her hat is in focus and so is the handle) I would say around f/2,8. That's the question I have. If the aperture is f2.8 then it is pretty good performance, but most fast 50s are good at f2.8. The question is more how sharp it is at wider apertures than that. I'm sure it will be a good lens, I just don't think this picture says much either way.

12-01-2017, 04:05 AM	#2092
wanderer2 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 301	Is there any info anywhere regarding how the lens will be priced?

12-01-2017, 04:09 AM	#2093
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Originally posted by Rondec That's the question I have. If the aperture is f2.8 then it is pretty good performance, but most fast 50s are good at f2.8. The question is more how sharp it is at wider apertures than that. I'm sure it will be a good lens, I just don't think this picture says much either way. Well, her hair at fore head are out of focus and even other eye is little abit too. Handle and eye are at same level, so that’s why it is in focus too. Transit between Oof and focus is really subtle. Also clarity with hair falling down is really nice and tones. I suppose that it will be sharp and controlled lens, but it is not all about sharpness is it. For me that is almost too sharp already. Even pretty girl like that, and I hope that they softened it a bit for my taste..

12-01-2017, 04:11 AM	#2094
beholder3 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,112	Originally posted by wanderer2 Is there any info anywhere regarding how the lens will be priced? The latest OEM 50mm F1.4 lens introduced to the market was a Sony. It was introduced before the latest round of significant price increases (so today initial prices for new products might be higher) for 1,800 EUR ($2,137) incl. taxes. Now you can start guessing what is realistic and what is wishful thinking.

12-01-2017, 09:22 AM	#2095
Jeff Lopez Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 531	man, google translation sucks.. its says "lens developed under a high demand for performance" Does this refer to user demands or Ricoh requirements towards a third party manufacturer?

12-01-2017, 10:05 AM	#2096
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by Jeff Lopez man, google translation sucks.. its says "lens developed under a high demand for performance" Does this refer to user demands or Ricoh requirements towards a third party manufacturer? I would say it means Ricoh Imaging had pretty high demands vis-à-vis themselves (and their contractors by the same token) when developing this lens.

12-01-2017, 10:06 AM	#2097
rangercarp Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Southern Michigan Posts: 437	Originally posted by Jeff Lopez its says "lens developed under a high demand for performance" Does this refer to user demands or Ricoh requirements towards a third party manufacturer? It could refer to users demands, but most likely is referring to the demands of Ricoh's internal design team who created the lens. I'm not sure how you are seeing a third party manufacturer in that statement.

12-01-2017, 10:23 AM	#2098
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by repaap Well, her hair at fore head are out of focus and even other eye is little abit too. Handle and eye are at same level, so that’s why it is in focus too. Transit between Oof and focus is really subtle. Also clarity with hair falling down is really nice and tones. I suppose that it will be sharp and controlled lens, but it is not all about sharpness is it. For me that is almost too sharp already. Even pretty girl like that, and I hope that they softened it a bit for my taste.. Unless RI shot that with a camera body outputting 2.5 MP, I'm going to say it was likely resized from a much larger original file. As a result, the downscaling can affect sharpness.

12-01-2017, 10:40 AM - 1 Like	#2099
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,231	they say, "Price: To Be Defined". That lens is priceless.

12-01-2017, 11:06 AM - 1 Like	#2100
Na Horuk Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Slovenia, probably Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,186	Originally posted by mee Unless RI shot that with a camera body outputting 2.5 MP, I'm going to say it was likely resized from a much larger original file. As a result, the downscaling can affect sharpness. Definitely, all resizing affects the image. And we don't know what PP was done - is this in-camera jpeg development like you get by default? Or was the shot raw and processed in some editor? So sample photos like this are mostly a tease. We need to see actual dng files to truly evaluate the lens. But even this resized jpeg is much more than we got in a while, so its exciting. So far so good, I'd say. Hopefully the reviews and lab tests will confirm the lens' quality, but it will take long time before those get published