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02-28-2018, 06:03 AM - 1 Like   #2986
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I'd like to think Kenspo has this correct. It's a Pentax designed lens. He stated that pretty strongly. But, I don't think that would prevent it being licensed to Tokina, and as others have pointed out, that would be potentially a good thing for revenue to Pentax. It also seems there's a lot of collaboration with lenses in the camera industry, which is becoming typical across industry in general. Many cars of different manufacture turn out to share floorpan and subframe assemblies etc. No reason this couldn't be a similar scenario.

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From the Tokina press release:
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About opera series

With the debut of opera 50mm F1.4 FF we are launching a new series of next generation premium full-frame lenses for high-end DSLR cameras called "opera" series.

Opera series is designed to perfectly match recent high-spec full-frame DSLR cameras, which keep requiring high quality optics to be used with. In addition to originally high-valued Tokina AT-X series, this new opera series is positioned as top premium series of full-frame size lenses and will be further expanded with other lenses of related specifications and performance.

In modern society the word “opera” is commonly used to express general genres of stage art. In Italian it means work or work of art. As an omitted art genre definition opera comes from "opera musicale" that means a piece of music work. In Latin opera comes from "opus” and in contemporary language "magnum opus", "opera magna” still has a meaning of "great literary, artistic or intellectual work". We chose the name "opera" for a new premium full-frame DSLR lens series thinking of a lens that will help photographer in creating real "work of art".

About the product

The debuting premium full-frame lens for high-end DSLR cameras in opera series is 50mm F1.4 FF (FF - Full-Frame). Designed for full-frame format DSLR cameras, opera 50mm F1.4 FF adopts a ring-shaped ultrasonic motor for autofocus drive module. Weather sealing prevents from dust and moisture to come inside the lens body. For the first time in Tokina line up Nikon mount model incorporates an electric diaphragm mechanism. The direction of the focus ring rotation fits the genuine Nikon and Canon lens.

Mounts: Nikon F, Canon EF Sensor size: full-frame format

Mounts: Nikon F, Canon EF
Sensor size: full frame format

About sales release:
Sales release: summer 2018

A prototype of Tokina opera 50mm F1.4 FF will be displayed at CP+2018 Kenko Tokina booth location: Exhibition Hall(1F), booth # G-57
So it's a summer release for them. The D FA should be there right after CP+ I guess. It looks like they are positioning it against the Sigma Art series.
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According to Digital Camera Watch, the Tokina opera 50mm f/1.4 FF should cost around „150,000 in Japan (≈ $1,400).
QuoteOriginally posted by Digital Camera Watch:
価格は10万円台なかばになるもよう。
Source: 【イベントレポート】【CP+】トキナー、「opera 50mm F1.4 FF」など新レンズを展示 - デジカメ Watch
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QuoteOriginally posted by D1N0 Quote
It looks like they are positioning it against the Sigma Art series.
I think the name is a giveaway

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Pentax D FA* 50mm vs Tokina opera 50mm

The same date of availablility of both lenses seems like an additional indicator beside the identical hood and construction:
Ricoh Imaging Exhibits Pentax at WPPI 2018 - Trade Shows | PentaxForums.com
CP+ 2018 ? Canon ? Nikon ??? Tokina opera 50mm F1.4 FF ??? (133412) - ???
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New Trade fair innovations at the PhotoPlus Expo 2017 and Salon de la PHOTO 2017Entry - RICOH IMAGING EUROPE S.A.S
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Prototypy nowych obiektyw
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
According to Digital Camera Watch, the Tokina opera 50mm f/1.4 FF should cost around „150,000 in Japan (≈ $1,400).


Source: 【イベントレポート】【CP+】トキナー、「opera 50mm F1.4 FF」など新レンズを展示 - デジカメ Watch
Maybe the Pentax DFA* 50mm will be a bit cheaper.
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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
Yikes! Its HUGE!



Given the length and girth and depth of the hood, I would have guessed a fast 85.


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No Kidding ! As much as I want several new modern lens designs , this monster will not be one of them.
I suppose it will have its place for many , I just dont happen to be one of them because of its massive size.
Looks like I just have to learn to be happy with my inexpensive little DA 50 I just ordered after I saw the size of this one..
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
According to Digital Camera Watch, the Tokina opera 50mm f/1.4 FF should cost around „150,000 in Japan (≈ $1,400).


Source: 【イベントレポート】【CP+】トキナー、「opera 50mm F1.4 FF」など新レンズを展示 - デジカメ Watch
That will be interesting. The fair value of OEM equipment is about +30-40% to 3rd party prices with equal specs typically, so a fair price for the DFA would be around $1,800-2,000.
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The PF Los Vegas member who held the new DFA 50 lens mounted on a K1 said the rig was quite comfortable in his hand, and that he thought it was well balanced on the K1. I suspect that it's lighter than it looks because of the heavy use of plastic in it's construction.

As to the two pixel shift test images, indeed they do look quite sharp. But so too were the few pixel shift photos that were released as a teaser before the K3II came out. They were crazy sharp. They were taken with the DA*55 lens on the soon to be released K3ii. The photos were so amazing that they alone were enough for me to sell all my Nikon and Canon gear (except one Nikon body and a tele lens for birds in flight) and to switch over to Pentax.

To me, all good lenses perform exceptionally in the pixel shift mode. I look forward to seeing comparative photos (pixel shift and non-pixel shift) taken with this new DFA 50 compared to other premium quality 50's.
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QuoteOriginally posted by beholder3 Quote
That will be interesting. The fair value of OEM equipment is about +30-40% to 3rd party prices with equal specs typically, so a fair price for the DFA would be around $1,800-2,000.
„195,000-210,000 may be but not necessarily 1,800-2,000. Lens RRPs are higher in Japan than in the US. For instance, the RRP at launch of the Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM | Art was „127,000 and $949.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
According to Digital Camera Watch, the Tokina opera 50mm f/1.4 FF should cost around „150,000 in Japan (≈ $1,400
So I guess now we hope that the $1400 list price drops to $900 actual retail eventually so the $1500 DFA can drop to $1000 (or something like that...)

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