DFA*50 1.4 coming

BrianR · 02-22-2017, 06:13 AM - **1 Like**

Maybe they took an FA50/1.4 and added a vestigial outer housing for the purposes of impressing your non-pentax colleagues.

There should be room in the lens lineup for small/compact lenses as well as no holds barred optical behemoths. The former is already pretty flushed out, the latter isn't. So bring on the behemoths! I expect they're smart enough to know if there's a demand for this or not. With the release things like the svelte looking K-P and the 55-300 plm, I'm not prepared to sound the death knell on the small & compact philosophy. I'm happy to give them time to crank out some highly-correct modern massive designs and eventually get back to refreshing the smaller stuff that attracted many of their customers (including me).

Actually wait, what am I saying.

Small lenses are dead!

Small lenses are dead!

Bring out your dead!

Free one way shipping and respectful disposal of your dead!

kenspo · 02-22-2017, 06:13 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ogl

16-50 and 50-135 are in production line

Do you really have to get everything in with a spoon?

It clearly was a mistake to put you off the ignore list...

IM TALKING ABOUT NEW LENSES!!!!! There..got it now? 16-50 and 50-135 are not new releases are they? But i forgot..you leave and breath to whine and complain no matter what

ogl · 02-22-2017, 06:14 AM

You are too nervous

kenspo · 02-22-2017, 06:16 AM

Originally posted by ogl

You are too nervous

What should i be nervous about? That you dont get anything in your head due to its filled with negativity?

sculptor666 · 02-22-2017, 06:17 AM

i would not be surprised if it covers larger than ff circle.

OoKU · 02-22-2017, 06:18 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ogl

Mistake. Tokina.

Are you joking？？？！！！
See patent US7301711 B2
designed by Mr. Masakazu Saori

ogl · 02-22-2017, 06:19 AM

Originally posted by OoKU

Are you joking？？？！！！
See patent US7301711 B2
designed by Mr. Masakazu Saori

Is it Tamron?

It's jointly developed lens. The patent belongs to Pentax.

Last edited by ogl; 02-22-2017 at 06:28 AM.

Kunzite · 02-22-2017, 06:22 AM

Originally posted by ogl

What about new users? Or Pentax won't attract new users?

With film-era lenses?

OoKU · 02-22-2017, 06:24 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ogl

Is it Tamron?

Pentax Pentax Pentax!!!
Also design the DFA*70-200/2.8
645 DFA25/4 DA12-24/4 DA16-50/2.8 DA*50-135/2.8 DA70/2.4 DA21/3.2

Mistral75 · 02-22-2017, 06:26 AM - **7 Likes**

Originally posted by ogl

Is it Tamron?

It's jointly developed lens. The patent belongs to Pentax.

Actually, all the lenses common to the Tokina and Pentax portfolios were based on Pentax-patented optical formulas licensed to Tokina except the 12-24mm f/4, which is based on a Tokina-patented optical formula licensed to Pentax.

Then each vendor developed its own autofocus solution, autofocus clutch, casing and more and manufactured its version of the lens.

So the Pentax - Tokina partnership had nothing to do with rebadging somebody else's lenses.

**ffking** · 02-22-2017, 06:26 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

Yes its huge, it will not come cheap and its made for the FUTURE!!!

If you dont like it, just go play and fiddle with your old glass. Let us others be happy about it. Just stop the whining!!!

Pentax need to think ahead too..not get stuck in the old days like many seems to be. Pentax wants to rise, not to only satisfy old timers.

Its made for FF and the future, so get over it when it comes to size. The times with the small fiddle glass for FF are over!!!! Quality ahead of size.

And btw..for all you negative people, i just get your head back in the sand..Let us that is positive and happy have our time

There..just had to get it out of my system!

I think the real problem is that Ricoh used to be a really well run company that did everything right while Pentax did everything wrong - but as soon as Ricoh bought Pentax, they instantly forgot how to run a business or make the cameras or lenses that customers want. It's a sad tale, and should be a salutary warning to all those thinking that they can turn around a doomed company.

pinholecam · 02-22-2017, 06:27 AM - **3 Likes**

Its a 645 lens, isn't it?

dark64 · 02-22-2017, 06:27 AM

oh... yeah...another 50... maybe some cheap quality long zoom? like 100-500/600 mmm? There is a lot of bright 50-70-80mm etc for Pentax but not so many good Tele zooms...

kenspo · 02-22-2017, 06:28 AM

Originally posted by ffking

I think the real problem is that Ricoh used to be a really well run company that did everything right while Pentax did everything wrong - but as soon as Ricoh bought Pentax, they instantly forgot how to run a business or make the cameras or lenses that customers want. It's a sad tale, and should be a salutary warning to all those thinking that they can turn around a doomed company.

Im afraid you have some valid points there mate. But kudos for them trying

Foxbat · 02-22-2017, 06:34 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by frogfoot

What about 16-50 and 50-135? They are * and they were developed together with Tokina, as far as I remember. So * itself doesn't make it necessarily 100% Pentax.

Originally posted by Digitalis

The Pentax DA*16-50mm f/2.8 lens is a Tamron re-badge. There goes that theory.

Originally posted by ogl

Is it Tamron?

It's jointly developed lens. The patent belongs to Pentax.
As I remember Tokina had launched 16-50 first?

Lens was designed by Pentax, hence patent was granted to Pentax. By this logic D FA 24-70 is a jointly developed lens between Tamron and Pentax.

I just love how any announcement of new Pentax product, immediately gets received with whining chorus of people, that expected something tailored specifically for their taste. And of course, any lens release is accompanied by moaning about it being a Tamron/Sigma lens disguised by evil Ricoh as a Pentax.

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02-22-2017, 06:13 AM - 1 Like	#196
BrianR Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ontario Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,332	Maybe they took an FA50/1.4 and added a vestigial outer housing for the purposes of impressing your non-pentax colleagues. There should be room in the lens lineup for small/compact lenses as well as no holds barred optical behemoths. The former is already pretty flushed out, the latter isn't. So bring on the behemoths! I expect they're smart enough to know if there's a demand for this or not. With the release things like the svelte looking K-P and the 55-300 plm, I'm not prepared to sound the death knell on the small & compact philosophy. I'm happy to give them time to crank out some highly-correct modern massive designs and eventually get back to refreshing the smaller stuff that attracted many of their customers (including me). Actually wait, what am I saying. Small lenses are dead! Small lenses are dead! Bring out your dead! Free one way shipping and respectful disposal of your dead!

02-22-2017, 06:13 AM - 1 Like	#197
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by ogl 16-50 and 50-135 are in production line Do you really have to get everything in with a spoon? It clearly was a mistake to put you off the ignore list... IM TALKING ABOUT NEW LENSES!!!!! There..got it now? 16-50 and 50-135 are not new releases are they? But i forgot..you leave and breath to whine and complain no matter what

02-22-2017, 06:14 AM	#198
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	You are too nervous

02-22-2017, 06:16 AM	#199
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by ogl You are too nervous What should i be nervous about? That you dont get anything in your head due to its filled with negativity?

02-22-2017, 06:17 AM	#200
sculptor666 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: PA Photos: Gallery Posts: 675	i would not be surprised if it covers larger than ff circle.

02-22-2017, 06:18 AM - 1 Like	#201
OoKU Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 740 Original Poster	Originally posted by ogl Mistake. Tokina. Are you joking？？？！！！ See patent US7301711 B2 designed by Mr. Masakazu Saori

02-22-2017, 06:19 AM	#202
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by OoKU Are you joking？？？！！！ See patent US7301711 B2 designed by Mr. Masakazu Saori Is it Tamron? It's jointly developed lens. The patent belongs to Pentax. Last edited by ogl; 02-22-2017 at 06:28 AM.

02-22-2017, 06:22 AM	#203
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by ogl What about new users? Or Pentax won't attract new users? With film-era lenses?

02-22-2017, 06:24 AM - 1 Like	#204
OoKU Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 740 Original Poster	Originally posted by ogl Is it Tamron? Pentax Pentax Pentax!!! Also design the DFA70-200/2.8 645 DFA25/4 DA12-24/4 DA16-50/2.8 DA50-135/2.8 DA70/2.4 DA21/3.2

02-22-2017, 06:26 AM - 7 Likes	#205
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by ogl Is it Tamron? It's jointly developed lens. The patent belongs to Pentax. Actually, all the lenses common to the Tokina and Pentax portfolios were based on Pentax-patented optical formulas licensed to Tokina except the 12-24mm f/4, which is based on a Tokina-patented optical formula licensed to Pentax. Then each vendor developed its own autofocus solution, autofocus clutch, casing and more and manufactured its version of the lens. So the Pentax - Tokina partnership had nothing to do with rebadging somebody else's lenses.

02-22-2017, 06:26 AM	#206
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,039	Originally posted by kenspo Yes its huge, it will not come cheap and its made for the FUTURE!!! If you dont like it, just go play and fiddle with your old glass. Let us others be happy about it. Just stop the whining!!! Pentax need to think ahead too..not get stuck in the old days like many seems to be. Pentax wants to rise, not to only satisfy old timers. Its made for FF and the future, so get over it when it comes to size. The times with the small fiddle glass for FF are over!!!! Quality ahead of size. And btw..for all you negative people, i just get your head back in the sand..Let us that is positive and happy have our time There..just had to get it out of my system! I think the real problem is that Ricoh used to be a really well run company that did everything right while Pentax did everything wrong - but as soon as Ricoh bought Pentax, they instantly forgot how to run a business or make the cameras or lenses that customers want. It's a sad tale, and should be a salutary warning to all those thinking that they can turn around a doomed company.

02-22-2017, 06:27 AM - 3 Likes	#207
pinholecam Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,709	Its a 645 lens, isn't it?

02-22-2017, 06:27 AM	#208
dark64 New Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Photos: Gallery Posts: 22	oh... yeah...another 50... maybe some cheap quality long zoom? like 100-500/600 mmm? There is a lot of bright 50-70-80mm etc for Pentax but not so many good Tele zooms...

02-22-2017, 06:28 AM	#209
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by ffking I think the real problem is that Ricoh used to be a really well run company that did everything right while Pentax did everything wrong - but as soon as Ricoh bought Pentax, they instantly forgot how to run a business or make the cameras or lenses that customers want. It's a sad tale, and should be a salutary warning to all those thinking that they can turn around a doomed company. Im afraid you have some valid points there mate. But kudos for them trying

02-22-2017, 06:34 AM - 1 Like	#210
Foxbat Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 66	Originally posted by frogfoot What about 16-50 and 50-135? They are * and they were developed together with Tokina, as far as I remember. So * itself doesn't make it necessarily 100% Pentax. Originally posted by Digitalis The Pentax DA16-50mm f/2.8 lens is a Tamron re-badge. There goes that* theory. Originally posted by ogl Is it Tamron? It's jointly developed lens. The patent belongs to Pentax. As I remember Tokina had launched 16-50 first? Lens was designed by Pentax, hence patent was granted to Pentax. By this logic D FA 24-70 is a jointly developed lens between Tamron and Pentax. I just love how any announcement of new Pentax product, immediately gets received with whining chorus of people, that expected something tailored specifically for their taste. And of course, any lens release is accompanied by moaning about it being a Tamron/Sigma lens disguised by evil Ricoh as a Pentax.