DFA*50 1.4 coming

biz-engineer · 01-09-2018, 02:17 AM

Originally posted by OoKU

part3 Photo of the Day PENTAX????50mmF1.4??? ?? ???

only partial information, leaked online, I so curious and so teased. Will my desire be aroused so much, my unconscious will buy the lens. BTW, he mentions that he used LV and tripod for evaluating sharpness. Did he also have to use ES on the K1 to work around shutter shock in order to get the sharpness of the premium lens? 1/50th is right in the shutter shock range, will it affect the sharpness of the lens to the point that there will be no benefit over a FA50?

Last edited by biz-engineer; 01-09-2018 at 04:48 AM.

Mistral75 · 01-09-2018, 01:52 PM - **1 Like**

According to Kimio Tanaka, the optical performance of the HD Pentax-D FA★ 50mm f/1.4 SDM AW is nothing short of superb.

Here below a summarised translation of Part III for those of you who would prefer my French to Tanaka-san's Japanese:

Pentax D FA★ 50 mm f/1,4

Sorry guys, I'm dog-tired tonight and I don't find the courage to make an English version. Direkt ins Bett!

torge · 01-09-2018, 04:04 PM

merci bien pour cette traduction

bxf · 01-10-2018, 01:46 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Mistral75

According to Kimio Tanaka, the optical performance of the HD Pentax-D FA★ 50mm f/1.4 SDM AW is nothing short of superb.

Great. I guess that means that I'll finally be able to take some decent photos.

**BigMackCam** · 01-10-2018, 02:09 AM

Originally posted by bxf

Great. I guess that means that I'll finally be able to take some decent photos.

LOL

Yes, if - and only if - you buy this lens

beholder3 · 01-10-2018, 02:54 AM - **6 Likes**

It is like Joe the plumber watching football on TV: If the team wins "we win", if the team looses, "they lose".

It's just a matter of education and wisdom and growing up.

In photo forums, Joe's good images are always the result of the "experienced, skilled, artistic photographer". Joe's bad images are always the fault of the equipment, the maker etc.

That is why you practically never see lots of average/good images from the whiners. Incompetents are all alike, and they really, really don't want to accept that and go into passive agressive mode ("oh no, I am not whining and incompetent I just happen to have my opinion (about the tool scapegoats, but not about my skills) and magical good reasons why I never show even average images."

Look into the galleries:
- for long tele lenses: do you see the incompetents who whine most for super expensive tele lenses?
- for sports: do you see the incompetents who whine most for "fast AF"?
Look into user gear lists and check if the incompetents who whine most about lack of super-res and super fast glass list lots of currently available high-res glass and expensive F1.4 lenses. You're more likely to see superzooms and cheapest legacy glass.

As with most deliverables in life: They depend 95% on the skill of the user and only 5% on tool capabilities.
So if someone starts whining, you must 95% discuss his skill shortcomings as a person and only if that is proven excellent (nearly never happens) one can dicuss gear with a good reason.

**BigMackCam** · 01-10-2018, 04:00 AM

Originally posted by beholder3

In photo forums, Joe's good images are always the result of the "experienced, skilled, artistic photographer". Joe's bad images are always the fault of the equipment, the maker etc.
...
As with most deliverables in life: They depend 95% on the skill of the user and only 5% on tool capabilities.

Well said!

**Belnan** · 01-10-2018, 07:22 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by beholder3

As with most deliverables in life: They depend 95% on the skill of the user and only 5% on tool capabilities.
So if someone starts whining, you must 95% discuss his skill shortcomings as a person and only if that is proven excellent (nearly never happens) one can dicuss gear with a good reason.

75% of statistics are completely made up.

Quicksand · 01-10-2018, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

So a bit longer and heavier than the Sigma Art:
Filter Thread Front: 77 mm (72)
Dimensions (DxL) Approx. 85.4 x 99.9 mm (80x110)
Weight 815 g (Canon). (830g)

Now THAT is an accomplishment!

Wheatfield · 01-10-2018, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by BigMackCam

Well said!

Actually, it was extremely insulting and offensive. I'm sure is certain others had posted it they would be sitting out the next two weeks on the sidelines.

**BigMackCam** · 01-10-2018, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

Actually, it was extremely insulting and offensive. I'm sure is certain others had posted it they would be sitting out the next two weeks on the sidelines.

If you find it extremely insulting and offensive, Bill, you can always report it to the moderating team. I'll stay out of it, as I'm already involved in the thread

**ffking** · 01-10-2018, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by BigMackCam

If you find it extremely insulting and offensive, Bill, you can always report it to the moderating team. I'll stay out of it, as I'm already involved in the thread

I thought you were careful in your selective quotes from a forthright post, Mike - I think that there's a certain amount of truth in the post you were quoting, but it's an opinion, and a slight simplification born out of possibly justifiable annoyance. the parts you quoted, on the other hand, were difficult to argue with

**BigMackCam** · 01-10-2018, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by ffking

I thought you were careful in your selective quotes from a forthright post, Mike - I think that there's a certain amount of truth in the post you were quoting, but it's an opinion, and a slight simplification born out of possibly justifiable annoyance. the parts you quoted, on the other hand, were difficult to argue with

Thanks, Graham. I certainly didn't agree with all of the post, nor necessarily the delivery, but the parts I quoted were - IMHO - pretty accurate (if somewhat generalised

).

**Mikesul** · 01-10-2018, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by wheatfield

actually, it was extremely insulting and offensive. I'm sure is certain others had posted it they would be sitting out the next two weeks on the sidelines.

???? ?

biz-engineer · 01-10-2018, 01:03 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by beholder3

- for sports: do you see the incompetents who whine most for "fast AF"?

Not all are incompetent, some of them have managed to get the best out of Pentax AF tracking performance by running faster than the subject.

01-09-2018, 04:04 PM	#2433
torge Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hamburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 199	merci bien pour cette traduction (nt) merci bien pour cette traduction

01-10-2018, 02:54 AM - 6 Likes	#2436
beholder3 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,112	It is like Joe the plumber watching football on TV: If the team wins "we win", if the team looses, "they lose". It's just a matter of education and wisdom and growing up. In photo forums, Joe's good images are always the result of the "experienced, skilled, artistic photographer". Joe's bad images are always the fault of the equipment, the maker etc. That is why you practically never see lots of average/good images from the whiners. Incompetents are all alike, and they really, really don't want to accept that and go into passive agressive mode ("oh no, I am not whining and incompetent I just happen to have my opinion (about the tool scapegoats, but not about my skills) and magical good reasons why I never show even average images." Look into the galleries: - for long tele lenses: do you see the incompetents who whine most for super expensive tele lenses? - for sports: do you see the incompetents who whine most for "fast AF"? Look into user gear lists and check if the incompetents who whine most about lack of super-res and super fast glass list lots of currently available high-res glass and expensive F1.4 lenses. You're more likely to see superzooms and cheapest legacy glass. As with most deliverables in life: They depend 95% on the skill of the user and only 5% on tool capabilities. So if someone starts whining, you must 95% discuss his skill shortcomings as a person and only if that is proven excellent (nearly never happens) one can dicuss gear with a good reason. Last edited by beholder3; 01-10-2018 at 11:56 PM.

01-10-2018, 01:03 PM - 1 Like	#2445
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,231	Originally posted by beholder3 - for sports: do you see the incompetents who whine most for "fast AF"? Not all are incompetent, some of them have managed to get the best out of Pentax AF tracking performance by running faster than the subject. Last edited by BigMackCam; 01-10-2018 at 01:44 PM. Reason: Inflammatory remarks removed

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Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	According to Kimio Tanaka, the optical performance of the HD Pentax-D FA★ 50mm f/1.4 SDM AW is nothing short of superb. Here below a summarised translation of Part III for those of you who would prefer my French to Tanaka-san's Japanese: Pentax D FA★ 50 mm f/1,4 Sorry guys, I'm dog-tired tonight and I don't find the courage to make an English version. Direkt ins Bett!

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bxf Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Lisbon area Posts: 1,660	Originally posted by Mistral75 According to Kimio Tanaka, the optical performance of the HD Pentax-D FA★ 50mm f/1.4 SDM AW is nothing short of superb. Great. I guess that means that I'll finally be able to take some decent photos.

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BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,669	Originally posted by bxf Great. I guess that means that I'll finally be able to take some decent photos. LOL Yes, if - and only if - you buy this lens

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Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	Originally posted by beholder3 As with most deliverables in life: They depend 95% on the skill of the user and only 5% on tool capabilities. So if someone starts whining, you must 95% discuss his skill shortcomings as a person and only if that is proven excellent (nearly never happens) one can dicuss gear with a good reason. 75% of statistics are completely made up.

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Quicksand Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Ohio (formerly SF Bay Area) Posts: 1,519	Originally posted by D1N0 So a bit longer and heavier than the Sigma Art: Filter Thread Front: 77 mm (72) Dimensions (DxL) Approx. 85.4 x 99.9 mm (80x110) Weight 815 g (Canon). (830g) Now THAT is an accomplishment!

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Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by BigMackCam Well said! Actually, it was extremely insulting and offensive. I'm sure is certain others had posted it they would be sitting out the next two weeks on the sidelines.

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ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Originally posted by BigMackCam If you find it extremely insulting and offensive, Bill, you can always report it to the moderating team. I'll stay out of it, as I'm already involved in the thread I thought you were careful in your selective quotes from a forthright post, Mike - I think that there's a certain amount of truth in the post you were quoting, but it's an opinion, and a slight simplification born out of possibly justifiable annoyance. the parts you quoted, on the other hand, were difficult to argue with

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01-10-2018, 11:36 AM	#2443
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,669	Originally posted by ffking I thought you were careful in your selective quotes from a forthright post, Mike - I think that there's a certain amount of truth in the post you were quoting, but it's an opinion, and a slight simplification born out of possibly justifiable annoyance. the parts you quoted, on the other hand, were difficult to argue with Thanks, Graham. I certainly didn't agree with all of the post, nor necessarily the delivery, but the parts I quoted were - IMHO - pretty accurate (if somewhat generalised ).

01-10-2018, 11:39 AM	#2444
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	Originally posted by wheatfield actually, it was extremely insulting and offensive. I'm sure is certain others had posted it they would be sitting out the next two weeks on the sidelines. ???? ?