DFA*50 1.4 coming

davidsladek · 01-16-2018, 04:59 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by redpit

No, not at all. Happy for the news! I'm excited of what Pentax will bring out. I'm happy even about equipment that doesn't interest me like the DA* wide zoom. And finally I'm happy as a person.

On a scale 1 to 10, how reliable is your source? would you be happy to evaluate? 1 being the lowest

And thank you for the positive rumour

redpit · 01-16-2018, 05:19 AM

Originally posted by davidsladek

On a scale 1 to 10, how reliable is your source? would you be happy to evaluate? 1 being the lowest

And thank you for the positive rumour

You're welcome! I feel funny when I learn something because I want to share it but I also feel I shouldn't because people might take it wrong (it's easier to spread "Pentax is doomed" rumours as people seem to easily accept them!). Thanks for helping me clarify that I share something only for the joy of good news ahead! It's a 10 for sure! I couldn't get any details about the specifications, but I really don't care. I know it will be a great. The problem is that with Pentax behind a project timetables are a bit... elastic or loose. I hope that soon we will get official information...

**shardulm** · 01-16-2018, 05:25 AM

So there is a nother FF body in the pipe now?
Ugh...

**pres589** · 01-16-2018, 07:22 AM

No, there isn't, or if there is it's at the prototype phase. They're talking about the K-1 and the K-1 Silver Ed. which already exist and you can purchase today.

davidsladek · 01-16-2018, 07:36 AM

Originally posted by pres589

No, there isn't, or if there is it's at the prototype phase. They're talking about the K-1 and the K-1 Silver Ed. which already exist and you can purchase today.

re-read answer #2548

**pres589** · 01-16-2018, 07:45 AM

Yeah, whatever. Calling shenanigans on that one. K-3II replacement isn't on the ground yet.

Mistral75 · 01-16-2018, 08:51 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by pres589

Yeah, whatever. Calling shenanigans on that one. K-3II replacement isn't on the ground yet.

Remember that the very same redpit told us about the HD Pentax-DA★ 11-18mm f/2.8 three days before the actual announcement of its development.

Originally posted by redpit

I think I know a few things about the surprise. It's a long missing lens for the APS-C shooters ��

It seems to be a winner on paper and if it is on par with the latest DFA* 70-200/2.8 then it will be a great addition!

**pres589** · 01-16-2018, 09:06 AM

If this is the case, and I'm not calling him a liar.... just what is Ricoh doing with APS-C then from a body standpoint? I'd really like to see the advances made with the K-1 and KP wrapped up in a body that has a good top LCD and bigger battery of the K-7/5/3 line.

Sorry to continue the wander away from the original intent of this thread.

mee · 01-16-2018, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by pres589

Sorry to continue the wander away from the original intent of this thread.

mm hmmmm.

**Rondec** · 01-16-2018, 09:28 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by pres589

If this is the case, and I'm not calling him a liar.... just what is Ricoh doing with APS-C then from a body standpoint? I'd really like to see the advances made with the K-1 and KP wrapped up in a body that has a good top LCD and bigger battery of the K-7/5/3 line.

Sorry to continue the wander away from the original intent of this thread.

I think the K3 II sequel is, in some ways, a tougher camera to design than a K-1 sequel. K3 II sequel has to have high frame rates with at least decent tracking auto focus, more auto focus points (read, D500 lite -- at least D7500 specs with dual SD cards and pixel shift). On the other hand, a K-1 sequel just needs a new sensor, improvement in buffer size and a little bit in frame rates and maybe some bones thrown to the video guys.

I am surprised if there is a K-1 sequel coming out (pleasantly so), but wouldn't think that this means there isn't a k3 II sequel coming down the road as well.

**pres589** · 01-16-2018, 09:39 AM

Maybe we're coming out of the Hoya-induced product development desert, finally. Agreed that a K-3 II replacement may be more challenging than the K-1 or bodies like the K-70 and KP.

Kunzite · 01-16-2018, 09:43 AM - **2 Likes**

I don't know if it's possible, but I'm thinking of a new platform shared between the APS-C flagship and FF (including a new AF). And, perhaps, with a new 645.

The most annoying things on the K-1 are, IMO: buffer size, card write speed, the wake-up delay. Then the autofocus. I hope all will be significantly improved in its successor.
P.S. It's still an amazing camera.

rangercarp · 01-16-2018, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by redpit

AFAIK this new lens will quite soon have two FF models that could be mounted on!

Are you certain the new full frame you have heard about is not full frame 645?

[stirs the pot]

**Belnan** · 01-16-2018, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by redpit

I have a good rumour for you! AFAIK this new lens will quite soon have two FF models that could be mounted on!

Spring is coming and so will some announcements.

Not sure what your source is but I did see this online somewhere as well. I assumed it was just speculation.

This would be win/ win for me. If Pentax releases a higher spec FF the price of the K-1 will come down and Ill buy the K-1. If they release a entry FF I'll just get that one. Either way I save Money

The new DFA* lenses would benefit more from a high MP camera and sony has held on to the 42 mp sensor for a while so it could be in the cards.

Maybe the K-1 sales were so good they pushed up the timeline of its replacement and pushed back the K-3 II replacement. Hence the situation we are in.

beholder3 · 01-16-2018, 10:50 AM

Somewhere weeks ago someone hinted at there being 2 new Pentax cameras this year.
So it could be a) the model to succeed the K-3II (as far as I remember the new camera will not be a K-3III type) and b) another FF.

If they are smart they aim at the buyers they want the most, with a proven track record of buying new Pentax glass.

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01-16-2018, 04:59 AM - 1 Like	#2551
davidsladek Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Surrey Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 346	Originally posted by redpit No, not at all. Happy for the news! I'm excited of what Pentax will bring out. I'm happy even about equipment that doesn't interest me like the DA* wide zoom. And finally I'm happy as a person. On a scale 1 to 10, how reliable is your source? would you be happy to evaluate? 1 being the lowest And thank you for the positive rumour

01-16-2018, 05:19 AM	#2552
redpit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Greece Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	Originally posted by davidsladek On a scale 1 to 10, how reliable is your source? would you be happy to evaluate? 1 being the lowest And thank you for the positive rumour You're welcome! I feel funny when I learn something because I want to share it but I also feel I shouldn't because people might take it wrong (it's easier to spread "Pentax is doomed" rumours as people seem to easily accept them!). Thanks for helping me clarify that I share something only for the joy of good news ahead! It's a 10 for sure! I couldn't get any details about the specifications, but I really don't care. I know it will be a great. The problem is that with Pentax behind a project timetables are a bit... elastic or loose. I hope that soon we will get official information...

01-16-2018, 05:25 AM	#2553
shardulm Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 793	So there is a nother FF body in the pipe now? Ugh...

01-16-2018, 07:22 AM	#2554
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,529	No, there isn't, or if there is it's at the prototype phase. They're talking about the K-1 and the K-1 Silver Ed. which already exist and you can purchase today.

01-16-2018, 07:36 AM	#2555
davidsladek Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Surrey Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 346	Originally posted by pres589 No, there isn't, or if there is it's at the prototype phase. They're talking about the K-1 and the K-1 Silver Ed. which already exist and you can purchase today. re-read answer #2548

01-16-2018, 07:45 AM	#2556
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,529	Yeah, whatever. Calling shenanigans on that one. K-3II replacement isn't on the ground yet.

01-16-2018, 08:51 AM - 1 Like	#2557
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by pres589 Yeah, whatever. Calling shenanigans on that one. K-3II replacement isn't on the ground yet. Remember that the very same *redpit* told us about the HD Pentax-DA★ 11-18mm f/2.8 three days before the actual announcement of its development. Originally posted by redpit I think I know a few things about the surprise. It's a long missing lens for the APS-C shooters �� It seems to be a winner on paper and if it is on par with the latest DFA* 70-200/2.8 then it will be a great addition!

01-16-2018, 09:06 AM	#2558
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,529	If this is the case, and I'm not calling him a liar.... just what is Ricoh doing with APS-C then from a body standpoint? I'd really like to see the advances made with the K-1 and KP wrapped up in a body that has a good top LCD and bigger battery of the K-7/5/3 line. Sorry to continue the wander away from the original intent of this thread.

01-16-2018, 09:12 AM	#2559
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by pres589 Sorry to continue the wander away from the original intent of this thread. mm hmmmm.

01-16-2018, 09:28 AM - 2 Likes	#2560
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	Originally posted by pres589 If this is the case, and I'm not calling him a liar.... just what is Ricoh doing with APS-C then from a body standpoint? I'd really like to see the advances made with the K-1 and KP wrapped up in a body that has a good top LCD and bigger battery of the K-7/5/3 line. Sorry to continue the wander away from the original intent of this thread. I think the K3 II sequel is, in some ways, a tougher camera to design than a K-1 sequel. K3 II sequel has to have high frame rates with at least decent tracking auto focus, more auto focus points (read, D500 lite -- at least D7500 specs with dual SD cards and pixel shift). On the other hand, a K-1 sequel just needs a new sensor, improvement in buffer size and a little bit in frame rates and maybe some bones thrown to the video guys. I am surprised if there is a K-1 sequel coming out (pleasantly so), but wouldn't think that this means there isn't a k3 II sequel coming down the road as well.

01-16-2018, 09:39 AM	#2561
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,529	Maybe we're coming out of the Hoya-induced product development desert, finally. Agreed that a K-3 II replacement may be more challenging than the K-1 or bodies like the K-70 and KP.

01-16-2018, 09:43 AM - 2 Likes	#2562
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	I don't know if it's possible, but I'm thinking of a new platform shared between the APS-C flagship and FF (including a new AF). And, perhaps, with a new 645. The most annoying things on the K-1 are, IMO: buffer size, card write speed, the wake-up delay. Then the autofocus. I hope all will be significantly improved in its successor. P.S. It's still an amazing camera.

01-16-2018, 10:19 AM	#2563
rangercarp Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Southern Michigan Posts: 437	Originally posted by redpit AFAIK this new lens will quite soon have two FF models that could be mounted on! Are you certain the new full frame you have heard about is not full frame 645? [stirs the pot]

01-16-2018, 10:42 AM	#2564
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	Originally posted by redpit I have a good rumour for you! AFAIK this new lens will quite soon have two FF models that could be mounted on! Spring is coming and so will some announcements. Not sure what your source is but I did see this online somewhere as well. I assumed it was just speculation. This would be win/ win for me. If Pentax releases a higher spec FF the price of the K-1 will come down and Ill buy the K-1. If they release a entry FF I'll just get that one. Either way I save Money The new DFA* lenses would benefit more from a high MP camera and sony has held on to the 42 mp sensor for a while so it could be in the cards. Maybe the K-1 sales were so good they pushed up the timeline of its replacement and pushed back the K-3 II replacement. Hence the situation we are in.

01-16-2018, 10:50 AM	#2565
beholder3 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,112	Somewhere weeks ago someone hinted at there being 2 new Pentax cameras this year. So it could be a) the model to succeed the K-3II (as far as I remember the new camera will not be a K-3III type) and b) another FF. If they are smart they aim at the buyers they want the most, with a proven track record of buying new Pentax glass.