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04-11-2017, 03:46 PM - 4 Likes   #1
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Ricoh to get out of camera business?

According to today's Nikkei, Japan's largest business newspaper, Ricoh is going to scale back camera business. It could get out of consumer camera business completely.

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Sad news...

04-11-2017, 03:50 PM - 3 Likes   #2
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An English summary: Ricoh may close shutter on personal camera business- Nikkei Asian Review

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and the Pentax people at the interview in CP+ signaling nothing
I think it is a common practice or may be they already did send a signal when they say somthing like it will be noting to replace a K1 for a while, or even the reason of they are doing the K1 and name it as K1 which left many wonder what is the next flagship to replace K1 will be named. those are the signal? but well, will see what's next.

it is interesting to see big non automobile Japanese companies having a hard time penetrate today market. I often wonder why they don't do more to integrate with smartphone technology, smartphone apps and even drone market in the early day or even today.

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I thought those around here said they were profitable. This article says they're losing money.. which is it?

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KonicaMinolta's regional copier office is in my building. I heard about the US operation reduction a couple weeks ago, so that part is spot-on. One can only hope this ends up limited to the WG series cameras.
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
KonicaMinolta's regional copier office is in my building. I heard about the US operation reduction a couple weeks ago, so that part is spot-on. One can only hope this ends up limited to the WG series cameras.
Q can go too. Light it on fire and send it over a cliff if it saves K mount.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mee Quote
I thought those around here said they were profitable. This article says they're losing money.. which is it?
I guess people just guess from the sale of K1 only. I will listen to the news more than what people say.
this is Ricoh Japan stock out look. check out the 5 years chart and see the drop in 2016 and it stay there until today. that pretty much support the news.
7752:Tokyo Stock Quote - Ricoh Co Ltd - Bloomberg Markets
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....or just sell to Samsung...



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in the words of Doris Day:

Que Sera, Sera - what will be will be


as afar as I can tell, not too much we can do about it.


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Yikes, not good! I hope the K mount line keeps going!!!
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and the Pentax people at the interview in CP+ signaling nothing
Don't blame them. Most of them know nothing about what top management is going to do. They are like us.
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Another thought is.. I wonder if Sigma (especially but also Tamron) were trying to get Pentax out of the market by pulling back lens offerings over the years?

Starving the brand .. of course that could be entirely not the case. But it does make me wonder as a result of their lack of support on the more common focal lengths and unwillingness to even consider amicable agreements on offering more K mount lenses.

I'm guessing Sigma would be more than happy to have Pentax go away.. one less lens mount to support (and die hard fans constantly requesting more K mount lenses).
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QuoteOriginally posted by Daikokuya Quote
Don't blame them. Most of them know nothing about what top management is going to do. They are like us.
no I am not mean to blame them. I could imagine their faces when they first learn about this. feel sorry for them, in fact.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mee Quote
Another thought is.. I wonder if Sigma (especially but also Tamron) were trying to get Pentax out of the market by pulling back lens offerings over the years?

Starving the brand .. of course that could be entirely not the case. But it does make me wonder as a result of their lack of support on the more common focal lengths and unwillingness to even consider amicable agreements on offering more K mount lenses.

I'm guessing Sigma would be more than happy to have Pentax go away.. one less lens mount to support (and die hard fans constantly requesting more K mount lenses).
Not quite. . .I would assume that Sigma has their own market data that showed how poorly Pentax-related sales have performed in relation to their own product requirements. I would think this data correlates to some extent with Pentax-branded camera product sales. And then add on the market information they obtain from people who are on the front lines selling stuff who can fill in the blanks about brand chatter, demand, buzz etc. Must be pretty quiet out there.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Miguel Quote
Not quite. . .I would assume that Sigma has their own market data that showed how poorly Pentax-related sales have performed in relation to their own product requirements. I would think this data correlates to some extent with Pentax-branded camera product sales. And then add on the market information they obtain from people who are on the front lines selling stuff who can fill in the blanks about brand chatter, demand, buzz etc. Must be pretty quiet out there.
Yes, this seems more reasonable. I suppose the pull back from K mount support simply 'helped' Pentax even more though..
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