Forgot Password
Pentax Camera Forums Home
 

Reply
Show Printable Version Search this Thread
04-23-2017, 06:47 AM - 8 Likes   #31
Pentaxian




Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Romania
Posts: 10,212
QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
Finding a new owner could be a good thing. I think maybe another Chinese company if interested. There is a market for all products under the ricoh-imaging company, just not the way it is currently run.
Indeed, Ricoh makes some weird decisions - for example, refusing to cancel the K-1 project despite your advice

04-23-2017, 06:50 AM   #32
mee
Pentaxian




Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 6,192
I'm waiting for the Pentax Q polo lens...
04-23-2017, 07:48 AM   #33
Pentaxian




Join Date: Nov 2011
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 3,837
QuoteOriginally posted by edmundrt Quote
I do understand people's enthusiasm for a 1/1.7 sensor and a macro lens from a DoF perspective, however. But one has to wonder whether this is too slim a market for Ricoh
Macro as discussed here is just one of the reasons the Q makes a whole lot of sense.
The great potential for the system lies in the idea of a "miniature camera",
which is what 35mm FF was initially, back when the Leica was introduced.
Less IQ than the mainstream systems of the time (Speed Graphic, roll film, etc.),
but with lenses that max out at much wider apertures.
Comparing the Q with MFT now
is like comparing 35mm with roll film in 1930s technology.
04-23-2017, 03:03 PM - 1 Like   #34
Pentaxian




Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Tromsø, Norway
Photos: Albums
Posts: 1,012
The macro makes sense, but IMO the Q cameras should be even smaller and have an EVF and Wifi + app.

04-23-2017, 04:45 PM   #35
Veteran Member




Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 377
I will buy this lens (and any updated Q body) the minute it hits the stores, if it does. I love my Q7 & Q-S1.
04-23-2017, 05:19 PM   #36
Senior Member
Cipher's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 143
I can help but think that a 20mp monochrome would be a hit, macro or not.
04-23-2017, 05:38 PM   #37
Pentaxian
Na Horuk's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Slovenia, probably
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 11,189
Well that's interesting!
Especially if it means a new Q model, one with a newer sensor and maybe even better AF. CD AF is not perfect for macro lenses. Would really need a focus limiter.
Really cool news
04-23-2017, 05:42 PM   #38
Banned




Join Date: May 2010
Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 2,541
The Macro lens for Q has been constructed long ago, even Pentax managers talked about it, but the Q project was put on ice ~2 yrs ago, which is obvious from their changed strategy back then. Even 645 is put on ice after the 645Z release.

It is a fact now Ricoh Imaging cannot sit on so many eggs at the same time. Because Q is not hi-added value product, it is off the Ricoh's menu. It is better to focus on K-mount and the GR, which users demand, and wish to pay for.

To put "hi-added value product" it in everyday words, it means: it is all about hi-end imaging now, no joking around.

(They may give the Q to somebody else to continue playing with it.)

04-24-2017, 01:12 AM   #39
Forum Member




Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 86
I can imagine my Q-S1 with a tiny macro lens being a great complement to my DSLR.

If you haven't already, look at how this guy rigged his Q for macro, absolutely amazing. The MaQro Qlub! - Page 6 - PentaxForums.com
04-24-2017, 03:45 AM   #40
Senior Member




Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: walking in the air
Posts: 292
As there are also significant advances for small smartphones sensors, the Q system can be "hi-added value product" if the cameras would have a viewfinder, in body stabilization, WR protection and obviously two or three WR lenses.
04-24-2017, 06:20 AM   #41
Pentaxian




Join Date: Nov 2011
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 3,837
QuoteOriginally posted by Uluru Quote
Q is not hi-added value product
Really?

FYI, the 08 wide-angle lens for the Q system has a solid glass aspherical lens element,
where the FA*24 made do with a laminated hybrid.
04-24-2017, 07:38 AM   #42
Pentaxian
mike.hiran's Avatar

Join Date: May 2007
Location: portland
Photos: Albums
Posts: 1,390
QuoteOriginally posted by Pioneer Quote
I do hope this lens makes it. I have been waiting for it for a long time.

It has to be easier than using my lens spacers for macro.

And I also hope they make more than just 1,000 pieces. I am not looking for collector prices!
No kidding about ease of use, but also have to think about the size of a apsc or bigger macro lens along with the adapter. Those two things are easily the size of my whole Q kit!
04-24-2017, 08:16 AM   #43
Pentaxian
Na Horuk's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Slovenia, probably
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 11,189
QuoteOriginally posted by edri Quote
As there are also significant advances for small smartphones sensors, the Q system can be "hi-added value product" if the cameras would have a viewfinder, in body stabilization, WR protection and obviously two or three WR lenses.
But at that point you are competing with Sony, Oly, Fuji cameras that are fairly compact and have great quality - and a high price tag. I think Q should be the size of a P&S, but for serious enthusiasts and professionals. For those times you don't want to lug around a DSLR, or as a tiny backup/auxiliary. For example, you can have K-1 and 24-75mm and 50mm f1.8, and then the Q with telephoto macro for those rare times you need that.
The Q can't replace a DSLR or even a m43 system and it is probably a bad idea to compete with those well-established systems directly.

Basically, the Q should be for People who have KP or K-1 and want to get a Fuji or Oly because its smaller, but don't really want to invest in a whole new, expensive system. Better get a Q, throw in a K adapter and you're set.
04-24-2017, 08:22 AM   #44
Pentaxian




Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: South Bend, IN, USA
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 3,267
QuoteOriginally posted by Uluru Quote
....
Because Q is not hi-added value product, it is off the Ricoh's menu. It is better to focus on K-mount and the GR, which users demand, and wish to pay for....
Depends on which users you are talking about.

Roughly ten years ago I used a {Canon} Compact Camera for nine months; at the end of that time, I gave it to my daughter, who had damaged her camera, because I needed an excuse, any excuse, to unload it. Within a couple of months I had learned my lesson that a compact camera is a lousy compromise for me.

I would not have purchased a GR last year.
I will not purchase a GR this year.
I cannot imagine myself purchasing a GR in any future year.

Last year I was committed to purchasing a Q-S2 {Q-S1 + EVF} within six months of its release.
If they released an updated "Q" with EVF, I would still expect to purchase it within six months
In any future year, I would still expect to purchase an updated "Q' with EVF.

I don't know what Pentax equipment you currently use nor whether you would buy Pentax equipment in the future.

---------- Post added 04-24-17 at 11:25 AM ----------

QuoteOriginally posted by Na Horuk Quote
But at that point you are competing with Sony, Oly, Fuji cameras that are fairly compact and have great quality - and a high price tag. I think Q should be the size of a P&S, but for serious enthusiasts and professionals. For those times you don't want to lug around a DSLR, or as a tiny backup/auxiliary. For example, you can have K-1 and 24-75mm and 50mm f1.8, and then the Q with telephoto macro for those rare times you need that.
The Q can't replace a DSLR or even a m43 system and it is probably a bad idea to compete with those well-established systems directly.

Basically, the Q should be for People who have KP or K-1 and want to get a Fuji or Oly because its smaller, but don't really want to invest in a whole new, expensive system. Better get a Q, throw in a K adapter and you're set.
You are 100% correct. There are various "under served" niches around which an ILC with properly designed auxiliary equipment can serve. People need to stop thinking of the "Q" as competing with equipment that looks most like it.
04-24-2017, 08:51 AM   #45
Pentaxian
thibs's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Belgium
Photos: Albums
Posts: 5,450
Then do not ever try a GR, you risk imminent conversion
Reply

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook
  • Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
Tags - Make this thread easier to find by adding keywords to it!
camera, cancelled, canon, dslr, equipment, evf, future, gr, history, k-01, k-1, kimio tanaka, lack, lens, lenses, marco lens, mm, months, pentax, pentax news, pentax q marco, pentax rumors, people, post, purchase, solution, system, viewfinder
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
A* 200mm Marco f4 blan01 Pentax Price Watch 53 02-02-2017 05:52 PM
For Sale - Sold: Pentax DFA 100mm f2.8 Marco WR blan01 Sold Items 3 12-27-2016 06:37 AM
What is in the F50 F2.8 Marco lens? stevewong Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 7 10-22-2014 09:58 AM
Marco lens help Neychannn Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 3 05-06-2011 10:11 AM
Macro My Pentax 100mm 2.8 SMC Marco lens just arrived! entropy.uk Post Your Photos! 2 09-14-2010 10:25 AM



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:33 PM. | See also: NikonForums.com, CanonForums.com part of our network of photo forums!
  • Red (Default)
  • Green
  • Gray
  • Dark
  • Dark Yellow
  • Dark Blue
  • Old Red
  • Old Green
  • Old Gray
  • Dial-Up Style
Hello! It's great to see you back on the forum! Have you considered joining the community?
register
Creating a FREE ACCOUNT takes under a minute, removes ads, and lets you post! [Dismiss]
Top