Pentax Q macro lens coming

MegaPower · 04-25-2017, 11:56 PM

if it can do 2:1, it may draw more attention.

**kwb** · 04-26-2017, 12:12 AM

Hey RICOH Imaging, believe me, I may complain about the price or build quality or whatever before I buy, but I will buy.

Mistral75 · 04-26-2017, 02:40 AM

Originally posted by normhead

I guess I could have been more enthusiastic in my post.

We are just waiting for this lens, we can't wait until it is released, we will buy the first day it's available.

Is that enthusiastic enough to catch your attention or do I need to be even more extreme?

It's not exactly my attention that ought to be catched...

normhead · 04-26-2017, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by MegaPower

if it can do 2:1, it may draw more attention.

Imagine sticking your DFA 100 on it for macro. That's going to give you 4:1.

CarlG · 04-26-2017, 01:19 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by kwb

Hey RICOH Imaging, believe me, I may complain about the price or build quality or whatever before I buy, but I will buy.

Hey, ... I will just buy!

surfar · 04-26-2017, 01:39 PM

There you go RI,the enQuiasts are calling out!

Kunzite · 04-26-2017, 02:26 PM

I'm sorry, folks, but I believe Ricoh Imaging already has the data (past sales) to decide.

Zygonyx · 04-27-2017, 12:42 PM

And, why did they despatch this prototype ?

BrianR · 04-27-2017, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by MegaPower

if it can do 2:1, it may draw more attention.

I don't think I'd even expect it to be capable of 1:1. Filling the frame with an object ~2cm across might be reasonable justification for the "Macro" label, and on a Q that only requires a magnification of about 1:3.

Who knows though? I didn't see it mentioned in this thread anywhere, and I'm speculating on a lens that's already speculative

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**kwb** · 04-28-2017, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by Mistral75

If Kimio Tanaka wanted his tweet to entice people to "stand up and cheer" to support / request from Ricoh Imaging the launch of 09 Telephoto Macro, he will be disappointed: not only there is no particular burst of enthusiasm in this thread, not only there is only ONE comment to the article made by Pentax Rumors (and none to the one made by Photo Rumors) but there are only 28 comments on the (Japanese) website Digital Camera Info, of which 12 are positive, 5 neutral and 11 negative.

Dunno, Tanaka's tweet generated 448 likes and 397 retweets, not too bad.
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Lack of enthusiasm on rumor sites and forums might tell more about the users there than the users in general.

Zygonyx · 04-29-2017, 12:10 AM - **3 Likes**

FYI it's well known that the forum everspeakers "experts" "complainers" and "mourners" are not necessarily those who buy gear.....

OoKU · 05-13-2017, 07:18 AM - **3 Likes**

---------- Post added 05-13-17 at 07:21 AM ----------

PENTAX Q7＋smc PENTAX MACRO 20mmF2.8（09 TELEPHOTO MACRO）

JPT · 05-13-2017, 08:33 AM - **1 Like**

Thanks for posting! From Kimio Tanaka again.
Photo of the Day PENTAX Q??????????? ?? ??1

In the blog post:
- He apologizes for not having followed up his posts with pictures sooner.
- Some people suggested Ricoh must have got angry with him, but nothing was said to him at all.
- The name of the lens is smc PENTAX MACRO 20mmF2.8, and that is the inscription on the lens.
- He doesn't know much detail about the technical specs of the lens and his comments are just from his impression of using the lens.
- It's a 20mm lens, which works out equivalent to a 92mm macro in 35mm film equivalent terms when mounted on the Q-S1 or Q7.
- Working distance is 8cm.
- Length is 50mm; weight is 70g. It's lighter than it looks.
- AF is fast.
- It's normal for prototype lenses from all makers to be very good, and this lens is good as you would expect.
- The only slight weakness he has perceived is a tendency to flare a little.

Test chart, taken at F2.8 and ISO 160 - http://www.thisistanaka.com/photo-day/photo31/macro.jpg

I'm struggling with the last sentence, but I think he is saying that he believes Ricoh is still thinking about what to do with the lens, and he is going to say more in future blog posts.

Just noticed there's a picture of the lens on his Q7 on his twitter.
https://twitter.com/thisistanaka/status/863268036022632448/photo/1

CarlG · 05-13-2017, 09:02 AM

I liked everything but the comment on that last sentence.

Mistral75 · 05-13-2017, 09:29 AM - **1 Like**

JPT, thank you for providing this summarised translation. I would add a point that you left aside in your summary: the lens is a macro lens in the sense that its maximum magnification is 1:1 in terms of 35mm format.

At minimum focussing distance, which is around 14 to 15cm, Tanaka says the coverage is around 25 x 36mm. Hence the actual maximum magnification is around 1/4.6 or 0.22x.

04-27-2017, 07:09 PM	#84
BrianR Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ontario Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,332	Originally posted by MegaPower if it can do 2:1, it may draw more attention. I don't think I'd even expect it to be capable of 1:1. Filling the frame with an object ~2cm across might be reasonable justification for the "Macro" label, and on a Q that only requires a magnification of about 1:3. Who knows though? I didn't see it mentioned in this thread anywhere, and I'm speculating on a lens that's already speculative.

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04-25-2017, 11:56 PM	#76
MegaPower Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hong Kong / Irvine, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 636	if it can do 2:1, it may draw more attention.

04-26-2017, 12:12 AM	#77
kwb Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Pacific North West Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,223	Hey RICOH Imaging, believe me, I may complain about the price or build quality or whatever before I buy, but I will buy.

04-26-2017, 02:40 AM	#78
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,526	Originally posted by normhead I guess I could have been more enthusiastic in my post. We are just waiting for this lens, we can't wait until it is released, we will buy the first day it's available. Is that enthusiastic enough to catch your attention or do I need to be even more extreme? It's not exactly my attention that ought to be catched...

04-26-2017, 08:14 AM	#79
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by MegaPower if it can do 2:1, it may draw more attention. Imagine sticking your DFA 100 on it for macro. That's going to give you 4:1.

04-26-2017, 01:19 PM - 1 Like	#80
CarlG Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 417	Originally posted by kwb Hey RICOH Imaging, believe me, I may complain about the price or build quality or whatever before I buy, but I will buy. Hey, ... I will just buy!

04-26-2017, 01:39 PM	#81
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,137	There you go RI,the enQuiasts are calling out!

04-26-2017, 02:26 PM	#82
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	I'm sorry, folks, but I believe Ricoh Imaging already has the data (past sales) to decide.

04-27-2017, 12:42 PM	#83
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,032	And, why did they despatch this prototype ?

04-28-2017, 11:26 PM	#85
kwb Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Pacific North West Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,223	Originally posted by Mistral75 If Kimio Tanaka wanted his tweet to entice people to "stand up and cheer" to support / request from Ricoh Imaging the launch of 09 Telephoto Macro, he will be disappointed: not only there is no particular burst of enthusiasm in this thread, not only there is only ONE comment to the article made by Pentax Rumors (and none to the one made by Photo Rumors) but there are only 28 comments on the (Japanese) website Digital Camera Info, of which 12 are positive, 5 neutral and 11 negative. Dunno, Tanaka's tweet generated 448 likes and 397 retweets, not too bad. Twitter Lack of enthusiasm on rumor sites and forums might tell more about the users there than the users in general.

04-29-2017, 12:10 AM - 3 Likes	#86
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,032	FYI it's well known that the forum everspeakers "experts" "complainers" and "mourners" are not necessarily those who buy gear.....

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05-13-2017, 07:18 AM - 3 Likes	#87
OoKU Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 740 Original Poster	---------- Post added 05-13-17 at 07:21 AM ---------- PENTAX Q7＋smc PENTAX MACRO 20mmF2.8（09 TELEPHOTO MACRO）

05-13-2017, 08:33 AM - 1 Like	#88
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821	Thanks for posting! From Kimio Tanaka again. Photo of the Day PENTAX Q??????????? ?? ??1 In the blog post: - He apologizes for not having followed up his posts with pictures sooner. - Some people suggested Ricoh must have got angry with him, but nothing was said to him at all. - The name of the lens is smc PENTAX MACRO 20mmF2.8, and that is the inscription on the lens. - He doesn't know much detail about the technical specs of the lens and his comments are just from his impression of using the lens. - It's a 20mm lens, which works out equivalent to a 92mm macro in 35mm film equivalent terms when mounted on the Q-S1 or Q7. - Working distance is 8cm. - Length is 50mm; weight is 70g. It's lighter than it looks. - AF is fast. - It's normal for prototype lenses from all makers to be very good, and this lens is good as you would expect. - The only slight weakness he has perceived is a tendency to flare a little. Test chart, taken at F2.8 and ISO 160 - http://www.thisistanaka.com/photo-day/photo31/macro.jpg I'm struggling with the last sentence, but I think he is saying that he believes Ricoh is still thinking about what to do with the lens, and he is going to say more in future blog posts. Just noticed there's a picture of the lens on his Q7 on his twitter. https://twitter.com/thisistanaka/status/863268036022632448/photo/1

05-13-2017, 09:02 AM	#89
CarlG Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 417	I liked everything but the comment on that last sentence.

05-13-2017, 09:29 AM - 1 Like	#90
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,526	JPT, thank you for providing this summarised translation. I would add a point that you left aside in your summary: the lens is a macro lens in the sense that its maximum magnification is 1:1 in terms of 35mm format. At minimum focussing distance, which is around 14 to 15cm, Tanaka says the coverage is around 25 x 36mm. Hence the actual maximum magnification is around 1/4.6 or 0.22x.