Eric Kim becomes an even bigger fan ...

**clackers** · 06-22-2017, 09:33 PM - **3 Likes**

International street photographer Eric Kim (personally, I'm not a fan of his style, but this is all subjective, right?) often writes for PetaPixel. Here, he gives fashion shooting a go, concluding:

" ... if you were a commercial photographer with a passion for street photography, I would probably recommend a combination of getting a compact Ricoh GR II camera for the streets, and a Pentax 645z for your commercial work."

Link: 7 Lessons Learned On My First Fashion Photography Shoot

Last edited by clackers; 06-23-2017 at 02:13 AM.

Unregistered User 8 · 06-22-2017, 10:47 PM - **1 Like**

Excellent post clackers. It is good to hear from a photographer instead of a bean counter.

Ricoh/Pentax is very much alive and well.

Uluru · 06-28-2017, 04:21 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by clackers

International street photographer Eric Kim (personally, I'm not a fan of his style, but this is all subjective, right?)

I was never aware Eric Kim has a photographic style.

**clackers** · 06-28-2017, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by Uluru

I was never aware Eric Kim has a photographic style.

Well, he does a lot of Bruce Gilden/Martin Parr ripoff stuff, but that's just my opinion.

mecrox · 06-29-2017, 01:38 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by clackers

Well, he does a lot of Bruce Gilden/Martin Parr ripoff stuff, but that's just my opinion.

If you're ever worried about your photography, take a look at his work and do the opposite would be another opinion.

Uluru · 06-29-2017, 05:38 AM

It takes about ~20 years of dedicated work to develop some sort of style; and even then it is nothing too serious. Gilden started photography in 1968, and Eric Kim started copying him several years ago. He is still at the level of socialising with people; he probably will never be a photographer. Maybe a bus coach or a tourist guide for Tokyo, which is a decent occupation.

Zygonyx · 06-29-2017, 06:14 AM - **1 Like**

Kim sounds indeed like very awkward these days, if you wanna speak about real photography...

**BigMackCam** · 06-29-2017, 11:51 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Uluru

It takes about ~20 years of dedicated work to develop some sort of style; and even then it is nothing too serious. Gilden started photography in 1968, and Eric Kim started copying him several years ago. He is still at the level of socialising with people; he probably will never be a photographer. Maybe a bus coach or a tourist guide for Tokyo, which is a decent occupation.

Not that there's anything wrong with being a coach or tourist guide, but Eric's doing well enough out of commercial photography and related pursuits. Whether you like his work or not is, as @clackers said, entirely subjective (personally, I'm not a big fan, though I applaud his efforts). But, he's writing and selling photography articles and books, and running paid-for workshops and experiences for other photographers, plus of course selling prints. I'd say that's a pretty decent occupation too, and I respect him for getting out there and doing it

Uluru · 06-29-2017, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by Zygonyx

Kim sounds indeed like very awkward these days, if you wanna speak about real photography...

Photography is a silent art, and Kim talks too much.

**BigMackCam** · 06-29-2017, 03:23 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Uluru

Photography is a silent art, and Kim talks too much.

If it's that silent, why do we (you and I included) talk about it so much on forums?

Photography (or any art, for that matter) is whatever the artist wants it to be - not what someone else thinks it should be. Other people's judgements - yours and mine - are never more than subjective, and entirely within our own frame of reference. It's a personal thing. If you enjoy it, or if your goal is to make money from it and you succeed in doing so (and even if you don't), it's all good. Kim seems to be doing that, and while his work and some of his opinions may not be for me, I say good luck to him

surfar · 06-29-2017, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by Uluru

Photography is a silent art

Not with a mechanical shutter!

---------- Post added 06-30-17 at 09:45 AM ----------

Originally posted by Uluru

Kim talks too much.

He doesn't say much here!

Zygonyx · 06-30-2017, 01:12 AM

I was refering to other well-known Kims

**clackers** · 06-30-2017, 01:33 AM

Originally posted by Zygonyx

I was refering to other well-known Kims

Kim Basinger?

thibs · 06-30-2017, 04:27 AM

Nope, Bashinger

Pioneer · 06-30-2017, 09:13 PM - **1 Like**

I enjoy his work and I wish him continued success. That doesn't mean I love everything he does, heck, I don't love a lot of what I do.

I don't believe he is the best street photographer out there anymore than I believe Ken Rockwell is a great artist. Neither am I interested in attending one of his workshops even though street photography is a genre I am interested in but not really very good at.

However, what I do enjoy is that he is out there making it work for himself. He is not on any welfare rolls and he is not trying to scam me into buying anything. Whether you believe he belongs where he has managed to place himself is actually immaterial. He understands web marketing and google search optimization. That puts him where he is.

And I think his little articles on what a given photographer taught him about street photography was a neat idea and usually make for some entertaining reading.

06-22-2017, 09:33 PM - 3 Likes	#1
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Eric Kim becomes an even bigger fan ... International street photographer Eric Kim (personally, I'm not a fan of his style, but this is all subjective, right?) often writes for PetaPixel. Here, he gives fashion shooting a go, concluding: " ... if you were a commercial photographer with a passion for street photography, I would probably recommend a combination of getting a compact Ricoh GR II camera for the streets, and a Pentax 645z for your commercial work." Link: 7 Lessons Learned On My First Fashion Photography Shoot Last edited by clackers; 06-23-2017 at 02:13 AM.

06-29-2017, 11:51 AM - 2 Likes	#8
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,670	Originally posted by Uluru It takes about ~20 years of dedicated work to develop some sort of style; and even then it is nothing too serious. Gilden started photography in 1968, and Eric Kim started copying him several years ago. He is still at the level of socialising with people; he probably will never be a photographer. Maybe a bus coach or a tourist guide for Tokyo, which is a decent occupation. Not that there's anything wrong with being a coach or tourist guide, but Eric's doing well enough out of commercial photography and related pursuits. Whether you like his work or not is, as @clackers said, entirely subjective (personally, I'm not a big fan, though I applaud his efforts). But, he's writing and selling photography articles and books, and running paid-for workshops and experiences for other photographers, plus of course selling prints. I'd say that's a pretty decent occupation too, and I respect him for getting out there and doing it Last edited by BigMackCam; 06-29-2017 at 12:21 PM.

06-29-2017, 03:23 PM - 3 Likes	#10
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,670	Originally posted by Uluru Photography is a silent art, and Kim talks too much. If it's that silent, why do we (you and I included) talk about it so much on forums? Photography (or any art, for that matter) is whatever the artist wants it to be - not what someone else thinks it should be. Other people's judgements - yours and mine - are never more than subjective, and entirely within our own frame of reference. It's a personal thing. If you enjoy it, or if your goal is to make money from it and you succeed in doing so (and even if you don't), it's all good. Kim seems to be doing that, and while his work and some of his opinions may not be for me, I say good luck to him Last edited by BigMackCam; 06-29-2017 at 04:00 PM.

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06-22-2017, 10:47 PM - 1 Like	#2
Unregistered User 8 Closed Account Join Date: Mar 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,694	Excellent post clackers. It is good to hear from a photographer instead of a bean counter. Ricoh/Pentax is very much alive and well.

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Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Originally posted by clackers International street photographer Eric Kim (personally, I'm not a fan of his style, but this is all subjective, right?) I was never aware Eric Kim has a photographic style.

06-28-2017, 05:10 PM	#4
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397 Original Poster	Originally posted by Uluru I was never aware Eric Kim has a photographic style. Well, he does a lot of Bruce Gilden/Martin Parr ripoff stuff, but that's just my opinion.

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mecrox Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oxford, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,375	Originally posted by clackers Well, he does a lot of Bruce Gilden/Martin Parr ripoff stuff, but that's just my opinion. If you're ever worried about your photography, take a look at his work and do the opposite would be another opinion.

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Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	It takes about ~20 years of dedicated work to develop some sort of style; and even then it is nothing too serious. Gilden started photography in 1968, and Eric Kim started copying him several years ago. He is still at the level of socialising with people; he probably will never be a photographer. Maybe a bus coach or a tourist guide for Tokyo, which is a decent occupation.

06-29-2017, 06:14 AM - 1 Like	#7
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Kim sounds indeed like very awkward these days, if you wanna speak about real photography...

06-29-2017, 03:12 PM	#9
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Originally posted by Zygonyx Kim sounds indeed like very awkward these days, if you wanna speak about real photography... Photography is a silent art, and Kim talks too much.

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surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	Originally posted by Uluru Photography is a silent art Not with a mechanical shutter! ---------- Post added 06-30-17 at 09:45 AM ---------- Originally posted by Uluru Kim talks too much. He doesn't say much here!

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Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	I was refering to other well-known Kims

06-30-2017, 01:33 AM	#13
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397 Original Poster	Originally posted by Zygonyx I was refering to other well-known Kims Kim Basinger?

06-30-2017, 04:27 AM	#14
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Nope, Bashinger

06-30-2017, 09:13 PM - 1 Like	#15
Pioneer Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wandering the Streets Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,411	I enjoy his work and I wish him continued success. That doesn't mean I love everything he does, heck, I don't love a lot of what I do. I don't believe he is the best street photographer out there anymore than I believe Ken Rockwell is a great artist. Neither am I interested in attending one of his workshops even though street photography is a genre I am interested in but not really very good at. However, what I do enjoy is that he is out there making it work for himself. He is not on any welfare rolls and he is not trying to scam me into buying anything. Whether you believe he belongs where he has managed to place himself is actually immaterial. He understands web marketing and google search optimization. That puts him where he is. And I think his little articles on what a given photographer taught him about street photography was a neat idea and usually make for some entertaining reading.