new ricoh survey

**RobA_Oz** · 07-03-2017, 12:59 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Uluru

My 2c, is that survey is weird, and looks unifished.

Originally posted by BrianR

I hope you filled out the survey and let them know their survey needs polishing.

I don't know about it looking "unifished", but I went fishing for unifocals…

**niceshot** · 07-03-2017, 04:30 AM

Originally posted by sculptor666

from ricoh's twitter feed, there's a new(?) survey:

Pentax Survey

i just took this survey and suggested that they bring back the 28mm Hollywood lens designed by ERNHARD GLATZEL

Mistral75 · 07-03-2017, 04:51 AM

Dr Erhard Glatzel, without "n".

K 28/2

SMCÂ* PENTAXÂ* 28mm f (in Italian)

**ffking** · 07-03-2017, 05:04 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by mee

I know I'll get dumped on for saying this (oh well), but I half wonder if they simply offer a poll each year just to give us the impression our opinions matter.

Dump, dump, dump, dump, dump...

no-one has done it, so I thought I better

More seriously, the poll is a bit vague, and the trouble with that is that you get a wide spread of answers which will probably result in a;lack of consistent clarity as to what people actually want, even if they do mean to take account of it.

Last edited by ffking; 07-03-2017 at 10:40 PM.

Kunzite · 07-03-2017, 05:34 AM

Well, Ricoh Imaging had a very extensive lens survey so I assume they don't need another.
There was a camera survey, too - was it Japan-only?

**niceshot** · 07-03-2017, 05:47 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Dr Erhard Glatzel, without "n".

K 28/2

SMCÂ PENTAXÂ 28mm f (in Italian)

Yes thx for the correction, bur yea that is the one they need to bring back, PRONTO.

Jeff Lopez · 07-03-2017, 06:20 AM

Originally posted by niceshot

Yes thx for the correction, bur yea that is the one they need to bring back, PRONTO.

Do not forget Yasou Takahashi, your legendary Pentax contrast on your lens is there, thanks to him..

**niceshot** · 07-03-2017, 08:55 AM

Originally posted by Jeff Lopez

Do not forget Yasou Takahashi, your legendary Pentax contrast on your lens is there, thanks to him..

I just Googled this guy, cant find any such thing. Where did you get that Intell from?????????

Kunzite · 07-03-2017, 09:02 AM - **1 Like**

It's Yasuo Takahashi (the Japanese spelling is a bit counter-intuitive to native English speakers, I guess... and the other way around

)
He worked on quite a few lenses:
through the viewfinder: Known Pentax lens designs and designers

L.E. To be pedantic, you can actually spell "ya-sou/sō" in Japanese.

**niceshot** · 07-03-2017, 09:08 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

It's Yasuo Takahashi (the Japanese spelling is a bit counter-intuitive to native English speakers, I guess... and the other way around

)
He worked on quite a few lenses:
through the viewfinder: Known Pentax lens designs and designers

Thankyou

**jatrax** · 07-03-2017, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by builttospill

Bring back the K10D four-way controller buttons on the next flagship cameras. I don't need a button on the back dedicated to white balance. How often does the average user change white balance? I move the selectable AF focus point with nearly every shot.

Never had a K10 so maybe I am off base on this. But I also use the AF focus point buttons a lot more than the WB or drive mode or whatever the functions are. But on the K-1 there is a setting to give AF selection priority so that the default behavior of the buttons is AF selection. You then need to hit the "shift" button to get to drive mode, but that is worth it to me. If that is helpful let me know and I can look up the setting. If I misunderstood your comment, then sorry, never mind.

mee · 07-03-2017, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by ffking

Dump, dump, dump, dump, dump...

no-one has done it, so I thought I better

More seriously, the poll is a bit vague, and the trouble with that is that you get a wide spread of answers which will probably result in ack of consistent clarity as to what people actually want, even if they do mean to take account of it.

haha ugh you got me. *dumped on*

It is easy to get attacked here for views that are deemed negative by those attacking. Even if the view is accurate.. so I place the caveat there just so I know I'm 'stepping out of line' with my thoughts in that they aren't always cheery happy unicorn and rainbows.

There was a post on here, I thought in this thread, that mentioned the commenter thought maybe RI have only interns doing the work during the summer... since we only get this level of attention in the summer. That and this poll is really unpolished. I think possibly. I'm not sure I'd trust interns to handle the insight into their customers though. And, if there aren't interns handling this work, then wow the bar is low in the marketing department these days.

It would be nice if, after a couple of months, we got a response back from the marketing dept about their findings.. or at least a brief 'we heard you.. thanks for the insight' type message back.

Winder · 07-03-2017, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by mee

haha ugh you got me. *dumped on*

It is easy to get attacked here for views that are deemed negative by those attacking. Even if the view is accurate.. so I place the caveat there just so I know I'm 'stepping out of line' with my thoughts in that they aren't always cheery happy unicorn and rainbows.

There was a post on here, I thought in this thread, that mentioned the commenter thought maybe RI have only interns doing the work during the summer... since we only get this level of attention in the summer. That and this poll is really unpolished. I think possibly. I'm not sure I'd trust interns to handle the insight into their customers though. And, if there aren't interns handling this work, then wow the bar is low in the marketing department these days.

It would be nice if, after a couple of months, we got a response back from the marketing dept about their findings.. or at least a brief 'we heard you.. thanks for the insight' type message back.

Have people already forgotten the marketing piece that Pentax USA e-mailed out where they Photoshop'ed a camera into a girls hands and completely blew it. The picture of the girl was from a micro-stock site and the scale was completely off making the girl look like a giant with huge hands.

Pentax K-S1 Promo Features a Bad Photoshop Job

The KS-1 piece was released in the Fall after all the interns went back to school. There is no way summer interns would have ever screwed up the Photoshop that bad. That had to be management.

Kunzite · 07-03-2017, 04:20 PM

@mee:
Maybe we should start mentioning which "Ricoh Imaging" we're talking about

Ricoh Imaging Japan is busy with photo schools, exhibitions, equipment trials and so on. They are also responsible for R&D, thus best served by product-related surveys. I think that monster lens survey was their doing.

@Winder:
Perhaps it's time to forgive mistakes made years ago, don't you think? AFAIK that image was a proof of concept of some sort, and it wasn't supposed to be sent to customers.
Other brands' users are able to get over things that are much worse; for example Huawei's clear misrepresentation of their phones' camera performance: https://petapixel.com/2016/07/05/huawei-implies-dslr-image-taken-p9-smartphone-gets-slammed/
That was not a silly mistake, that was dishonest. Huawei users don't care.

builttospill · 07-03-2017, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by jatrax

Never had a K10 so maybe I am off base on this. But I also use the AF focus point buttons a lot more than the WB or drive mode or whatever the functions are. But on the K-1 there is a setting to give AF selection priority so that the default behavior of the buttons is AF selection. You then need to hit the "shift" button to get to drive mode, but that is worth it to me. If that is helpful let me know and I can look up the setting. If I misunderstood your comment, then sorry, never mind.

You understood what I was asking for, thanks. Changing the four directional buttons to prioritize AF point selection was the first thing I changed when I got the K-1. I'm glad I have the option, but it seems counter-intuitive to have to make the settings adjustment in the first place.

07-03-2017, 09:02 AM - 1 Like	#69
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	It's Yasuo Takahashi (the Japanese spelling is a bit counter-intuitive to native English speakers, I guess... and the other way around ) He worked on quite a few lenses: through the viewfinder: Known Pentax lens designs and designers L.E. To be pedantic, you can actually spell "ya-sou/sō" in Japanese. Last edited by Kunzite; 07-03-2017 at 09:18 AM.

07-03-2017, 04:10 PM	#73
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by mee haha ugh you got me. dumped on It is easy to get attacked here for views that are deemed negative by those attacking. Even if the view is accurate.. so I place the caveat there just so I know I'm 'stepping out of line' with my thoughts in that they aren't always cheery happy unicorn and rainbows. There was a post on here, I thought in this thread, that mentioned the commenter thought maybe RI have only interns doing the work during the summer... since we only get this level of attention in the summer. That and this poll is really unpolished. I think possibly. I'm not sure I'd trust interns to handle the insight into their customers though. And, if there aren't interns handling this work, then wow the bar is low in the marketing department these days. It would be nice if, after a couple of months, we got a response back from the marketing dept about their findings.. or at least a brief 'we heard you.. thanks for the insight' type message back. Have people already forgotten the marketing piece that Pentax USA e-mailed out where they Photoshop'ed a camera into a girls hands and completely blew it. The picture of the girl was from a micro-stock site and the scale was completely off making the girl look like a giant with huge hands. Pentax K-S1 Promo Features a Bad Photoshop Job The KS-1 piece was released in the Fall after all the interns went back to school. There is no way summer interns would have ever screwed up the Photoshop that bad. That had to be management. Last edited by Winder; 07-03-2017 at 04:19 PM.

07-03-2017, 04:20 PM	#74
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	@mee: Maybe we should start mentioning which "Ricoh Imaging" we're talking about Ricoh Imaging Japan is busy with photo schools, exhibitions, equipment trials and so on. They are also responsible for R&D, thus best served by product-related surveys. I think that monster lens survey was their doing. @Winder: Perhaps it's time to forgive mistakes made years ago, don't you think? AFAIK that image was a proof of concept of some sort, and it wasn't supposed to be sent to customers. Other brands' users are able to get over things that are much worse; for example Huawei's clear misrepresentation of their phones' camera performance: https://petapixel.com/2016/07/05/huawei-implies-dslr-image-taken-p9-smartphone-gets-slammed/ That was not a silly mistake, that was dishonest. Huawei users don't care. Last edited by Kunzite; 07-03-2017 at 04:30 PM.

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07-03-2017, 12:59 AM - 1 Like	#61
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,209	Originally posted by Uluru My 2c, is that survey is weird, and looks unifished. Originally posted by BrianR I hope you filled out the survey and let them know their survey needs polishing. I don't know about it looking "unifished", but I went fishing for unifocals…

07-03-2017, 04:30 AM	#62
niceshot Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,565	Originally posted by sculptor666 from ricoh's twitter feed, there's a new(?) survey: Pentax Survey i just took this survey and suggested that they bring back the 28mm Hollywood lens designed by ERNHARD GLATZEL

07-03-2017, 04:51 AM	#63
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Dr Erhard Glatzel, without "n". K 28/2 SMCÂ* PENTAXÂ* 28mm f (in Italian)

07-03-2017, 05:04 AM - 1 Like	#64
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,039	Originally posted by mee I know I'll get dumped on for saying this (oh well), but I half wonder if they simply offer a poll each year just to give us the impression our opinions matter. Dump, dump, dump, dump, dump... no-one has done it, so I thought I better More seriously, the poll is a bit vague, and the trouble with that is that you get a wide spread of answers which will probably result in a;lack of consistent clarity as to what people actually want, even if they do mean to take account of it. Last edited by ffking; 07-03-2017 at 10:40 PM.

07-03-2017, 05:34 AM	#65
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Well, Ricoh Imaging had a very extensive lens survey so I assume they don't need another. There was a camera survey, too - was it Japan-only?

07-03-2017, 05:47 AM	#66
niceshot Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,565	Originally posted by Mistral75 Dr Erhard Glatzel, without "n". K 28/2 SMCÂ PENTAXÂ 28mm f (in Italian) Yes thx for the correction, bur yea that is the one they need to bring back, PRONTO.

07-03-2017, 06:20 AM	#67
Jeff Lopez Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 531	Originally posted by niceshot Yes thx for the correction, bur yea that is the one they need to bring back, PRONTO. Do not forget Yasou Takahashi, your legendary Pentax contrast on your lens is there, thanks to him..

07-03-2017, 08:55 AM	#68
niceshot Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,565	Originally posted by Jeff Lopez Do not forget Yasou Takahashi, your legendary Pentax contrast on your lens is there, thanks to him.. I just Googled this guy, cant find any such thing. Where did you get that Intell from?????????

07-03-2017, 09:08 AM	#70
niceshot Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,565	Originally posted by Kunzite It's Yasuo Takahashi (the Japanese spelling is a bit counter-intuitive to native English speakers, I guess... and the other way around ) He worked on quite a few lenses: through the viewfinder: Known Pentax lens designs and designers Thankyou

07-03-2017, 02:36 PM	#71
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by builttospill Bring back the K10D four-way controller buttons on the next flagship cameras. I don't need a button on the back dedicated to white balance. How often does the average user change white balance? I move the selectable AF focus point with nearly every shot. Never had a K10 so maybe I am off base on this. But I also use the AF focus point buttons a lot more than the WB or drive mode or whatever the functions are. But on the K-1 there is a setting to give AF selection priority so that the default behavior of the buttons is AF selection. You then need to hit the "shift" button to get to drive mode, but that is worth it to me. If that is helpful let me know and I can look up the setting. If I misunderstood your comment, then sorry, never mind.

07-03-2017, 04:01 PM	#72
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by ffking Dump, dump, dump, dump, dump... no-one has done it, so I thought I better More seriously, the poll is a bit vague, and the trouble with that is that you get a wide spread of answers which will probably result in ack of consistent clarity as to what people actually want, even if they do mean to take account of it. haha ugh you got me. dumped on It is easy to get attacked here for views that are deemed negative by those attacking. Even if the view is accurate.. so I place the caveat there just so I know I'm 'stepping out of line' with my thoughts in that they aren't always cheery happy unicorn and rainbows. There was a post on here, I thought in this thread, that mentioned the commenter thought maybe RI have only interns doing the work during the summer... since we only get this level of attention in the summer. That and this poll is really unpolished. I think possibly. I'm not sure I'd trust interns to handle the insight into their customers though. And, if there aren't interns handling this work, then wow the bar is low in the marketing department these days. It would be nice if, after a couple of months, we got a response back from the marketing dept about their findings.. or at least a brief 'we heard you.. thanks for the insight' type message back.

07-03-2017, 11:37 PM	#75
builttospill Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Utah, Idaho Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,398	Originally posted by jatrax Never had a K10 so maybe I am off base on this. But I also use the AF focus point buttons a lot more than the WB or drive mode or whatever the functions are. But on the K-1 there is a setting to give AF selection priority so that the default behavior of the buttons is AF selection. You then need to hit the "shift" button to get to drive mode, but that is worth it to me. If that is helpful let me know and I can look up the setting. If I misunderstood your comment, then sorry, never mind. You understood what I was asking for, thanks. Changing the four directional buttons to prioritize AF point selection was the first thing I changed when I got the K-1. I'm glad I have the option, but it seems counter-intuitive to have to make the settings adjustment in the first place.