Forgot Password
Pentax Camera Forums Home
 

Reply
Show Printable Version Search this Thread
10-09-2017, 02:10 PM   #16
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
Aristophanes's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
Photos: Albums
Posts: 3,929
QuoteOriginally posted by Adam Quote
It would be nice if the GR line had two bodies- a fixed lens offering with a large sensor, and a smaller sensor offering with a zoom lens. Who knows if this would be viable alongside fierce competition from Sony, but it could have potential.
I've said this for years....two GR bodies.

I doubt a small form factor zoom can use the APS-C size sensor. You could, but the zoom would be at most 2.5x, which is not much at all compared to the competition. And teens would be substantial to get f/2.8.

If Sony can do this, why not Ricoh? It's a small, but viable market that can thump any smartphone sensor, especially on optics.

Another way to look at this is as a Q replacement. The bane of the Q was a too small sensor.

10-09-2017, 02:11 PM   #17
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter
monochrome's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Kirkwood (St. Louis) MO USA
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 22,749
QuoteOriginally posted by jatrax Quote
A unknown friend of an unknown poster on another forum supplied (recycled) a rumor from 2016 that is now at least one and possibly almost two years old? And that is exciting news?
The Pentax (Ricoh) world is indeed desperate for anything to talk about..............................
When rumor sites begin to cite this thread weíll know the circle is complete. .
10-09-2017, 02:47 PM - 1 Like   #18
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
jatrax's Avatar

Join Date: May 2010
Location: Oregon Cascades
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 11,670
QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
When rumor sites begin to cite this thread we’ll know the circle is complete. .
Should not take too long. Pentax Rumors should have it by tomorrow.
10-09-2017, 03:53 PM   #19
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter




Join Date: May 2016
Location: East Coast
Posts: 1,390
QuoteOriginally posted by jatrax Quote
Should not take too long. Pentax Rumors should have it by tomorrow.
I plan on placing my order day after next.

10-09-2017, 04:00 PM   #20
mee
Banned




Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 6,491
QuoteOriginally posted by jatrax Quote
Should not take too long. Pentax Rumors should have it by tomorrow.
It is interesting the names that get thanked for sharing these rumors to PR.. same names that chat on here...
10-09-2017, 04:20 PM - 1 Like   #21
Pentaxian




Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: mid nth coast,nsw
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 3,661
QuoteOriginally posted by Aristophanes Quote
The bane of the Q was a too small sensor.
Yes, small enough to do magazine covers.
10-09-2017, 06:35 PM   #22
Pentaxian
Zygonyx's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Ile de France
Posts: 3,246
If GRZ = Nikon DL, someone should be doomed...
10-09-2017, 07:14 PM   #23
Pentaxian
i83N's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Lithuania
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 1,200
GRZ? Z for zoom? I say it is just someone's fantasy not more. GR is doomed.

10-09-2017, 08:48 PM   #24
JPT
Pentaxian




Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Tokyo
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 1,428
I really hope this is true. It sounds like just what Iím looking for. Something like the GRD at the wide end, with more versatility.

Impressive though the GR was, I had very mixed feelings about it moving to a large sensor. I think it lost as much as it gained from that decision.

Itís interesting the the GRD IVís price on the second hand market in Japan is quite close to the GR, which indicates that Iím not the only one that feels this way.

Last edited by JPT; 10-09-2017 at 09:37 PM.
10-10-2017, 02:36 AM   #25
Banned




Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 360
QuoteOriginally posted by MMVIII Quote
Well, if it's not a single focal length, preferrably equiv. 28mm, it's not a GR... ergo also not a replacement. If they bring a APS-C compact with a fast zoom lens in a smaller body than a GR I might be in purchasing mode. But I highly doubt that.
Its is GRZ so it is not GR.
GR + Zoom = GRZ
Additional 50% in name length so it is obviously not GR.
Seriously, probably another 1" sensor "RX100 killer".
Yawn.

---------- Post added 10-10-17 at 11:41 AM ----------

QuoteOriginally posted by jatrax Quote
A unknown friend of an unknown poster on another forum supplied (recycled) a rumor from 2016 that is now at least one and possibly almost two years old? And that is exciting news?
The Pentax (Ricoh) world is indeed desperate for anything to talk about..............................
So let's talk again about lenses that are coming for sure but not before 100 year aniversary of AOC.
10-10-2017, 04:24 AM   #26
Forum Member




Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 94
QuoteOriginally posted by Aristophanes Quote
The bane of the Q was a too small sensor.
Absolutely not. Small sensor is an asset of the Q. The obsession with sensor size has gone too far, the small sensor produces great images.
10-10-2017, 04:26 AM   #27
Pentaxian
thibs's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Belgium
Photos: Albums
Posts: 5,564
QuoteOriginally posted by JPT Quote
I really hope this is true. It sounds like just what Iím looking for. Something like the GRD at the wide end, with more versatility.

Impressive though the GR was, I had very mixed feelings about it moving to a large sensor. I think it lost as much as it gained from that decision.

Itís interesting the the GRD IVís price on the second hand market in Japan is quite close to the GR, which indicates that Iím not the only one that feels this way.
Interesting bought but based on what?
What did the GR lose from the GRIV exactly ?
10-10-2017, 05:07 AM - 1 Like   #28
ogl
Pentaxian
ogl's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Siberia
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 7,937
24-60mm f1.7-2.8 couldn't be neither APS-C, nor FF zoom...
10-10-2017, 05:11 AM   #29
ogl
Pentaxian
ogl's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Siberia
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 7,937
QuoteOriginally posted by JPT Quote
I really hope this is true. It sounds like just what Iím looking for. Something like the GRD at the wide end, with more versatility.
I think it's pure fake.
10-10-2017, 06:08 AM   #30
JPT
Pentaxian




Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Tokyo
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 1,428
QuoteOriginally posted by thibs Quote
Interesting bought but based on what?
What did the GR lose from the GRIV exactly ?
I mean that from the GRD IV to the GR, a number of things changed, some for the better, some for the worse, and others that are largely a matter of opinion.

Gained (due to APS-C sensor)
- High ISO performance
- Ability to isolate subject through DOF

Lost (due to sensor)
- Lens got slower f1.9 to f.2.8
- Sensor shift stabilization
- Battery life (CIPA rating went down from 390 to 290)
- Body size/weight increased
- Close focusing ability (GRD IV 1cm; GR 10cm)

Lost (not related to sensor)
- PDAF window for hybrid AF system
- Lost ability to use standard batteries in the same compartment as the lithium rechargeable

Changed (matter of opinion)
- Tendency towards broad/narrow DOF
- Aspect ratio changed

So I feel that the impact of the bigger sensor was somewhat lessened by the loss of IBIS and the slower lens. At the same time the camera got less compact and lost some other features. I'm not trying to say the GR was worse by any means, but the character of the camera changed more than looks would indicate.
Reply

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook
  • Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
Tags - Make this thread easier to find by adding keywords to it!
camera, forum, gr, length, pentax news, pentax rumors, replacement, ricoh, ricoh grz, rumor
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Nikon D850: New FX-format digital SLR camera coming soon. interested_observer Non-Pentax Cameras: Canon, Nikon, etc. 301 12-18-2017 09:05 AM
Metz mecablitz 26 AF-2 coming soon acoufap Flashes, Lighting, and Studio 5 03-31-2016 05:45 AM
Thematic "Show me your Pulitzer" contest coming soon charliezap Mini-Challenges, Games, and Photo Stories 4 10-08-2010 03:09 AM
New models coming soon. Return recently bought K-x? Muse Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 25 09-03-2010 09:18 PM
Samsung pancake NX 20mm f/2... coming soon!!! Xian Non-Pentax Cameras: Canon, Nikon, etc. 18 06-18-2010 02:08 AM



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:03 AM. | See also: NikonForums.com, CanonForums.com part of our network of photo forums!
  • Red (Default)
  • Green
  • Gray
  • Dark
  • Dark Yellow
  • Dark Blue
  • Old Red
  • Old Green
  • Old Gray
  • Dial-Up Style
Hello! It's great to see you back on the forum! Have you considered joining the community?
register
Creating a FREE ACCOUNT takes under a minute, removes ads, and lets you post! [Dismiss]
Top