Originally posted by BigMackCam I know that camera rather well... I lusted after one, for a while
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I do think, though, a compact, do it all, fixed lens camera needs to offer wide-angle to short-tele, otherwise it becomes narrower in its application and will have a smaller potential market.
Yes, and still it would be more versatile than a prime 28mm equiv. lens... and the GR already "only" offers F:2.8 ... where is the loss if RICOH would offer a GRZ with that Fuji-lens design?
if its F:4 or F:4.5 at 50mm it would be cool for me.
Shallow depth of field is overrated... and IMHO most people overrate the versatility of good compact cameras... No RX100 or G1X "which mark so ever" could ever replace a K-Mount DSLR(if you know how to use DSLRs and own the right optics) this starts with using flashes, etc...(cam-body to flashgun weight ratio is ridiculous and difficult to handle)
and yes, there are photographers that do pro-shootings with phones... but that is only because they like that competition... in 99.9% of all cases you will see professional photographers with APS-C or FF sensor MILCs... that are a bit bigger then the flash transmitters you mount on them.
So no, neither a RX1 R mark II nor a Leica Q or that @the-moment non existant FF Ricoh GRZ will make you the next Mario Testino.
Those are just compact cameras, but if you like photography you would appreciate it if the FF sensor comes back to compact cameras... since such a sensor would deliver good dynamic range, better IQ etc.
and those are things that satisfy hobby photographers and pro-"street photographers" the most.
And i would welcome a FF-zoom-compact, because IT IS more versatile... even if "only" 28-56mm...and even on film compacts i sometimes feel more plasticity/clarity(or better:
spatiality) on FF then on smaller formats.
Again: No one says it has to beat(in every way) a DSLR... with a 24-70 F:2.8... neither a RX1R nor a Leica Q and certainly no G1XIII will. NEVER! that is AFAIK not possible(
yet) at a compact size.
but the dynamic range of such a FF compact zoom would be huge, no matter if you whine because you "ONLY" have F:5.4 at 56mm or something alike, or not.
and ogl is somehow right... indeed 56mm focal length, would get the designation "85mm equivalent" if used on a Crop sensor...
Nonetheless, I would be also satisfied if its "only" APS-C... since that would make most people happy, and it is as I annoted it above... Such a compact-camera will never replace a good and balanced MILC.
But i still like the IDEA of RICOH producing the first FF compact zoom.
That could mean another product selling like hotcake ... next to Theta... (because sometimes its not about being perfect, but only about catching the flow)