New K-mount roadmap

**yucatanPentax** · 10-27-2017, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by beholder3

Red is future standard lens.
Orange is DFA* type pro lens for FF.
Yellow is existing DA* pro lens for APSC.
Green is existing standard lens.

Thank you so much for that info. I guess I didn't miss the Key on the PDF? I didn't see one anyway.
Do you suppose there's some difference between the dark green and the light green?
Today's cold gray weather must be having a perceptiveness issue in my brain.

Edit: Oh, duh. It looks like the light green and dark green are split between DFA/FA and DA.

robjmitchell · 10-27-2017, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by Nachtkuh

I am really happy about the DA* 11-18mm

And also a little bit concerned about that there are no further lenses shown on the aps-c roadmap...
An AF-Motor upgrade for the other DA* lenses would be awesome.

(and a sharper 16-50 regarding the PF review)

All those DFA K-mount lenses will work quite nicely with the APS-C cameras!

At some point the lens line up is full enough that you start looking at releasing new version of old lenses. Yes the DA* with the SDM ring motor seen in the new DFA* 50/1.4 would be awesome. You don't put replacement lenses on the roadmap, only lenses to fill holes.

DeadJohn · 10-27-2017, 03:53 PM

Just an observation, not a complaint: Pentax continues to distance itself from compact primes of the past and towards large high quality zooms and fast primes. That's a reasonable approach, since people who want very small cameras have plenty of options.

I currently have a K-1 plus K-5. Leaning towards selling my non-FF lenses and building a secondary m43 system. Pentax will remain my main system.

aurele · 10-28-2017, 12:09 AM

Originally posted by DeadJohn

Just an observation, not a complaint: Pentax continues to distance itself from compact primes of the past and towards large high quality zooms and fast primes. That's a reasonable approach, since people who want very small cameras have plenty of options.

I currently have a K-1 plus K-5. Leaning towards selling my non-FF lenses and building a secondary m43 system. Pentax will remain my main system.

They created a FF, so now they are creating ultra high quality lens.

They won't stop selling the small lenses.

Strategyis pretty much FF and "*" lenses for best quality / compact and small APS-C body and lenses.

thibs · 10-28-2017, 04:26 AM

Yep. APS is there for those wanting compact lenses. It's all fine.

More compact lenses will probably come in due time once mandatory 'pro' lenses lineup is there for FF range.

Simen1 · 10-28-2017, 04:46 AM

Personally I have all the lenses I need. I'm more interessted in upcoming cameras. K-1 II and K-3 III or whatever their names will be.

ogl · 10-28-2017, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by Simen1

Personally I have all the lenses I need. I'm more interessted in upcoming cameras. K-1 II and K-3 III or whatever their names will be.

As for K-1 - I think K-1 is FF already, it means the next cameras could be K-1II, K-1III, K-1IV and e.t.c.
The same method as Canon or Sony.

As for K-3's upgrade - I think we could see the new name. K-2, K-4, K-6, K-8, K-9 are free.

**Clinton** · 10-28-2017, 10:54 AM

I have to admit, I'm completely lost by the "Telephoto Zoom Lens" and the "Large Aperture Wide-Angle Single Focus Lens". These seem to be covered areas...

banep · 10-28-2017, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by thibs

Should be 24/2 or 20/2.8 IMO.
They'll need 85/1.4 and 35/1.4 then too.

Obviously can't be 24/2 because map shows something between 15 and 20mm.
Probably 20mm, but could be also something wider, 18mm or even 15mm.
I hope it is not 15mm, in that case filters will be a big problem.

Mike.P® · 10-28-2017, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Clinton

I have to admit, I'm completely lost by the "Telephoto Zoom Lens" and the "Large Aperture Wide-Angle Single Focus Lens". These seem to be covered areas...

There is no Pentax full frame 70-300mm. I would buy one in a heartbeat if it's the same quality as the Canon L lens.

banep · 10-28-2017, 11:27 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by DeadJohn

Just an observation, not a complaint: Pentax continues to distance itself from compact primes of the past and towards large high quality zooms and fast primes. That's a reasonable approach, since people who want very small cameras have plenty of options.

I currently have a K-1 plus K-5. Leaning towards selling my non-FF lenses and building a secondary m43 system. Pentax will remain my main system.

I also have K-1 plus K-5 and I will do exactly opposite. I'll sell K-1 and invest that money in new flagship APS-C or KP. Reason?
There is no compact size ultra wide full frame prime lenses which is very important for me.
Also there is no consumer telephoto zoom compact in size and weight with decent optics.
On my opinion both of those lenses are more important than 50mm.

Kunzite · 10-28-2017, 12:01 PM

The problem with your opinion is that other people have other opinions. There is no way we all would fully agree on priorities.
The two lenses you're talking about are both on the roadmap.

**monochrome** · 10-28-2017, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by kenspo

I said a 85 is coming..and it will!

Also mentioned in the PF PhotoPlus Booth Report on the Forum Homepage - coming in 2018.

repaap · 10-28-2017, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by DeadJohn

Just an observation, not a complaint: Pentax continues to distance itself from compact primes of the past and towards large high quality zooms and fast primes. That's a reasonable approach, since people who want very small cameras have plenty of options.

I currently have a K-1 plus K-5. Leaning towards selling my non-FF lenses and building a secondary m43 system. Pentax will remain my main system.

I have bought my self m43 stuff, not to build new compact system, but other reason...I like m43 so far, lot's of fun. No shame in that but I should not put those two systems together to same shoot. m43 does fall short for my kind a shots compared to K-1. APS-C is not that far behing...but my K-3 seems little old by now already

great that there is some new lenses and cameras coming for both FF and APS-C. My m43 needs are quite easilly fullfilled with some litlle things, and you can't mix m43 with larger format, but you can somehow mix FF and APS-C.

banep · 10-28-2017, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

The problem with your opinion is that other people have other opinions. There is no way we all would fully agree on priorities.
The two lenses you're talking about are both on the roadmap.

There are three models of 50mm Pentax lenses on the market that you can buy new.
At the same time there are zero models of lenses of those two types.
That are facts not opinions and also I don't care for your opinion.

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10-27-2017, 01:52 PM	#31
yucatanPentax Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dallas / Yucatan Posts: 1,840	Originally posted by beholder3 Red is future standard lens. Orange is DFA* type pro lens for FF. Yellow is existing DA* pro lens for APSC. Green is existing standard lens. Thank you so much for that info. I guess I didn't miss the Key on the PDF? I didn't see one anyway. Do you suppose there's some difference between the dark green and the light green? Today's cold gray weather must be having a perceptiveness issue in my brain. Edit: Oh, duh. It looks like the light green and dark green are split between DFA/FA and DA.

10-27-2017, 02:50 PM	#32
robjmitchell Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne Aus Posts: 1,776	Originally posted by Nachtkuh I am really happy about the DA* 11-18mm And also a little bit concerned about that there are no further lenses shown on the aps-c roadmap... An AF-Motor upgrade for the other DA* lenses would be awesome. (and a sharper 16-50 regarding the PF review) All those DFA K-mount lenses will work quite nicely with the APS-C cameras! At some point the lens line up is full enough that you start looking at releasing new version of old lenses. Yes the DA* with the SDM ring motor seen in the new DFA* 50/1.4 would be awesome. You don't put replacement lenses on the roadmap, only lenses to fill holes.

10-27-2017, 03:53 PM	#33
DeadJohn Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 4,834	Just an observation, not a complaint: Pentax continues to distance itself from compact primes of the past and towards large high quality zooms and fast primes. That's a reasonable approach, since people who want very small cameras have plenty of options. I currently have a K-1 plus K-5. Leaning towards selling my non-FF lenses and building a secondary m43 system. Pentax will remain my main system.

10-28-2017, 12:09 AM	#34
aurele Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Paris, France Photos: Albums Posts: 3,217	Originally posted by DeadJohn Just an observation, not a complaint: Pentax continues to distance itself from compact primes of the past and towards large high quality zooms and fast primes. That's a reasonable approach, since people who want very small cameras have plenty of options. I currently have a K-1 plus K-5. Leaning towards selling my non-FF lenses and building a secondary m43 system. Pentax will remain my main system. They created a FF, so now they are creating ultra high quality lens. They won't stop selling the small lenses. Strategyis pretty much FF and "*" lenses for best quality / compact and small APS-C body and lenses.

10-28-2017, 04:26 AM	#35
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Yep. APS is there for those wanting compact lenses. It's all fine. More compact lenses will probably come in due time once mandatory 'pro' lenses lineup is there for FF range.

10-28-2017, 04:46 AM	#36
Simen1 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tromsø, Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 1,031	Personally I have all the lenses I need. I'm more interessted in upcoming cameras. K-1 II and K-3 III or whatever their names will be.

10-28-2017, 07:03 AM	#37
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Simen1 Personally I have all the lenses I need. I'm more interessted in upcoming cameras. K-1 II and K-3 III or whatever their names will be. As for K-1 - I think K-1 is FF already, it means the next cameras could be K-1II, K-1III, K-1IV and e.t.c. The same method as Canon or Sony. As for K-3's upgrade - I think we could see the new name. K-2, K-4, K-6, K-8, K-9 are free.

10-28-2017, 10:54 AM	#38
Clinton Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,910	I have to admit, I'm completely lost by the "Telephoto Zoom Lens" and the "Large Aperture Wide-Angle Single Focus Lens". These seem to be covered areas...

10-28-2017, 11:13 AM	#39
banep Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 360	Originally posted by thibs Should be 24/2 or 20/2.8 IMO. They'll need 85/1.4 and 35/1.4 then too. Obviously can't be 24/2 because map shows something between 15 and 20mm. Probably 20mm, but could be also something wider, 18mm or even 15mm. I hope it is not 15mm, in that case filters will be a big problem.

10-28-2017, 11:20 AM	#40
Mike.P® Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Milton, Hampshire, UK Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,154	Originally posted by Clinton I have to admit, I'm completely lost by the "Telephoto Zoom Lens" and the "Large Aperture Wide-Angle Single Focus Lens". These seem to be covered areas... There is no Pentax full frame 70-300mm. I would buy one in a heartbeat if it's the same quality as the Canon L lens.

10-28-2017, 11:27 AM - 1 Like	#41
banep Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 360	Originally posted by DeadJohn Just an observation, not a complaint: Pentax continues to distance itself from compact primes of the past and towards large high quality zooms and fast primes. That's a reasonable approach, since people who want very small cameras have plenty of options. I currently have a K-1 plus K-5. Leaning towards selling my non-FF lenses and building a secondary m43 system. Pentax will remain my main system. I also have K-1 plus K-5 and I will do exactly opposite. I'll sell K-1 and invest that money in new flagship APS-C or KP. Reason? There is no compact size ultra wide full frame prime lenses which is very important for me. Also there is no consumer telephoto zoom compact in size and weight with decent optics. On my opinion both of those lenses are more important than 50mm.

10-28-2017, 12:01 PM	#42
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	The problem with your opinion is that other people have other opinions. There is no way we all would fully agree on priorities. The two lenses you're talking about are both on the roadmap.

10-28-2017, 01:27 PM	#43
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by kenspo I said a 85 is coming..and it will! Also mentioned in the PF PhotoPlus Booth Report on the Forum Homepage - coming in 2018.

10-28-2017, 01:55 PM	#44
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Originally posted by DeadJohn Just an observation, not a complaint: Pentax continues to distance itself from compact primes of the past and towards large high quality zooms and fast primes. That's a reasonable approach, since people who want very small cameras have plenty of options. I currently have a K-1 plus K-5. Leaning towards selling my non-FF lenses and building a secondary m43 system. Pentax will remain my main system. I have bought my self m43 stuff, not to build new compact system, but other reason...I like m43 so far, lot's of fun. No shame in that but I should not put those two systems together to same shoot. m43 does fall short for my kind a shots compared to K-1. APS-C is not that far behing...but my K-3 seems little old by now already great that there is some new lenses and cameras coming for both FF and APS-C. My m43 needs are quite easilly fullfilled with some litlle things, and you can't mix m43 with larger format, but you can somehow mix FF and APS-C.

10-28-2017, 02:05 PM	#45
banep Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 360	Originally posted by Kunzite The problem with your opinion is that other people have other opinions. There is no way we all would fully agree on priorities. The two lenses you're talking about are both on the roadmap. There are three models of 50mm Pentax lenses on the market that you can buy new. At the same time there are zero models of lenses of those two types. That are facts not opinions and also I don't care for your opinion.