K3ii replacement

T T · 07-28-2018, 09:46 AM

It would be good if the k3ii have a fast fps in burst mode, though i do agree that the K1 is quite slow in terms of fps compared to the canikons.

reh321 · 07-28-2018, 12:12 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by T T

It would be good if the k3ii have a fast fps in burst mode, though i do agree that the K1 is quite slow in terms of fps compared to the canikons.

Pentax is much more interested in "landscape" than in "events".

wkraus · 07-28-2018, 02:15 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by T T

It would be good if the k3ii have a fast fps in burst mode, though i do agree that the K1 is quite slow in terms of fps compared to the canikons.

4.60 frames per second as compared to the D810’s 5.09 frames (according to Digital Cameras, Digital Camera Reviews) does not qualify as “quite slow” in my understanding (but then English is not my first language).

pxt · 07-28-2018, 02:36 PM

Sometimes I miss add funcionality for unuse button on body fx 2 sec shot delay.

TheCousinDan · 07-28-2018, 03:25 PM

Ricoh lists "Digital Cameras" as item number 4 under the "Other" category in its financial report from 2017. Let's hope this is not indicative of their efforts to develop this storied replacement.

RonHendriks1966 · 07-28-2018, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by TheCousinDan

Ricoh lists "Digital Cameras" as item number 4 under the "Other" category in its financial report from 2017. Let's hope this is not indicative of their efforts to develop this storied replacement.

3D printing is after digital camera and that is an important thing in Ricoh's future. So the list is not that indicative to anything.

house · 07-28-2018, 03:51 PM

Are there any real improvements in sensor tech? Seems like nothing is happening at the moment. New camera with same IQ seems odd to me.

agukha · 07-29-2018, 04:31 AM

It's a bit intriguing that the K3iii (let's call it the K-Pi ^^) has not yet been released.

If could have been "just" based on the very good KP technologies (with small improvements as usual on AF and so), with a bigger batterie (and a good grip!!

), GPS for the astrotracer, and it would have been bought by all people waiting for the new DSLR flagship.

If it is so long, could it be they are working on a new sensor ?
(I know we won't have the answer here ^^)

pts1958 · 07-29-2018, 05:30 AM

Originally posted by reh321

Pentax is much more interested in "landscape" than in "events".

Yes indeed, Pentax need to be more efficent for sports and event !

T T · 07-29-2018, 06:48 AM

Originally posted by pts1958

Yes indeed, Pentax need to be more efficent for sports and event !

Yes Pentax definitely need to improve in other areas, especially sports and action to compete with other brands and at the same time maintain its lead in landscape photography.

aitrus3 · 07-29-2018, 07:23 AM - **1 Like**

There are new sensors out there. Newest of which are curved sensors but the wolves of the pentax community would howl at that move because it would mean their 'precious' lenses are useless, so new sensor tech is probably not where Ricoh will put their money.
They could be developing technology though that gives the new flag-ship model switchable IR/UV/Visible filters. That would advance camera technology forward like their in body shake reduction already has. They could also develop the coding to turn their shake reduction system into a sort of adaptive optics for astrophotography purposes, although this would be harder due to the need of having a supremely powerful but small laser also attached to the camera.
The KP was an utter disappointment, and like others on here, I think they had planned that it would be the new flagship CF camera until we the community gave them so much backlash.
In my opinion, Pentax has made a name for itself in pushing technology forward and doing things the competition wouldn't think of, like Shake reduction, like Pixel Shift, like Astrotracer. Switchable filters, in my opinion, would be the next logical step forward in my opinion, but would take a while to develop.

**travelswsage** · 07-29-2018, 07:41 AM

Originally posted by aitrus3

They could be developing technology though that gives the new flag-ship model switchable IR/UV/Visible filters

Is that possible? This and in-camera focus stacking would be fantastic to have on any body, APS-C or full frame. Are there any cameras out there currently with this ability?

aitrus3 · 07-29-2018, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by travelswsage

Is that possible? This and in-camera focus stacking would be fantastic to have on any body, APS-C or full frame. Are there any cameras out there currently with this ability?

No there aren't. I'm not sure if it is possible and I don't think there are any other cameras out there with it currently. But, they're far smarter than I am with this sort of thing and if I had the tools/ability/knowledge and money to try, I have an idea on how to make it work. Whether or not it makes the camera body too heavy/large is beyond me. Just conjecture. I'd like to think that they'd at least consider it as an idea, if nothing else.

photoptimist · 07-29-2018, 08:06 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by aitrus3

There are new sensors out there. Newest of which are curved sensors but the wolves of the pentax community would howl at that move because it would mean their 'precious' lenses are useless, so new sensor tech is probably not where Ricoh will put their money.
They could be developing technology though that gives the new flag-ship model switchable IR/UV/Visible filters. That would advance camera technology forward like their in body shake reduction already has. They could also develop the coding to turn their shake reduction system into a sort of adaptive optics for astrophotography purposes, although this would be harder due to the need of having a supremely powerful but small laser also attached to the camera.
The KP was an utter disappointment, and like others on here, I think they had planned that it would be the new flagship CF camera until we the community gave them so much backlash.
In my opinion, Pentax has made a name for itself in pushing technology forward and doing things the competition wouldn't think of, like Shake reduction, like Pixel Shift, like Astrotracer. Switchable filters, in my opinion, would be the next logical step forward in my opinion, but would take a while to develop.

Curved sensors are interesting but the technology only offers an advantage for a fixed lens cameras because the curvature must be tailored to the focal length.

Switchable filters would be a cool addition.

The KP seems like an awesome camera that also reflects a core brand element of Pentax -- compactness. Many seem to love the KP's size and excellent image quality. The KP is only an utter disappointment to that small fraction of Pentaxians who wanted a "big camera."

bobmaxja · 07-29-2018, 08:08 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by T T

Yes Pentax definitely need to improve in other areas, especially sports and action to compete with other brands and at the same time maintain its lead in landscape photography.

Pentax should not try to compete with the other guy for sport at least professional .I hope you understand why!

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07-28-2018, 09:46 AM	#406
T T New Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 15	It would be good if the k3ii have a fast fps in burst mode, though i do agree that the K1 is quite slow in terms of fps compared to the canikons.

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reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,177	Originally posted by T T It would be good if the k3ii have a fast fps in burst mode, though i do agree that the K1 is quite slow in terms of fps compared to the canikons. Pentax is much more interested in "landscape" than in "events".

07-28-2018, 02:15 PM - 1 Like	#408
wkraus Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Near Vienna, Austria Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,059	Originally posted by T T It would be good if the k3ii have a fast fps in burst mode, though i do agree that the K1 is quite slow in terms of fps compared to the canikons. 4.60 frames per second as compared to the D810’s 5.09 frames (according to Digital Cameras, Digital Camera Reviews) does not qualify as “quite slow” in my understanding (but then English is not my first language).

07-28-2018, 02:36 PM	#409
pxt Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 290	Sometimes I miss add funcionality for unuse button on body fx 2 sec shot delay.

07-28-2018, 03:45 PM	#411
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by TheCousinDan Ricoh lists "Digital Cameras" as item number 4 under the "Other" category in its financial report from 2017. Let's hope this is not indicative of their efforts to develop this storied replacement. 3D printing is after digital camera and that is an important thing in Ricoh's future. So the list is not that indicative to anything.

07-28-2018, 03:51 PM	#412
house Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 3,306	Are there any real improvements in sensor tech? Seems like nothing is happening at the moment. New camera with same IQ seems odd to me.

07-29-2018, 04:31 AM	#413
agukha Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 367	It's a bit intriguing that the K3iii (let's call it the K-Pi ^^) has not yet been released. If could have been "just" based on the very good KP technologies (with small improvements as usual on AF and so), with a bigger batterie (and a good grip!! ), GPS for the astrotracer, and it would have been bought by all people waiting for the new DSLR flagship. If it is so long, could it be they are working on a new sensor ? (I know we won't have the answer here ^^)

07-29-2018, 05:30 AM	#414
pts1958 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Orleans (France) Posts: 103	Originally posted by reh321 Pentax is much more interested in "landscape" than in "events". Yes indeed, Pentax need to be more efficent for sports and event !

07-29-2018, 06:48 AM	#415
T T New Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 15	Originally posted by pts1958 Yes indeed, Pentax need to be more efficent for sports and event ! Yes Pentax definitely need to improve in other areas, especially sports and action to compete with other brands and at the same time maintain its lead in landscape photography.

07-29-2018, 07:23 AM - 1 Like	#416
aitrus3 Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Kamloops B.C. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,432	There are new sensors out there. Newest of which are curved sensors but the wolves of the pentax community would howl at that move because it would mean their 'precious' lenses are useless, so new sensor tech is probably not where Ricoh will put their money. They could be developing technology though that gives the new flag-ship model switchable IR/UV/Visible filters. That would advance camera technology forward like their in body shake reduction already has. They could also develop the coding to turn their shake reduction system into a sort of adaptive optics for astrophotography purposes, although this would be harder due to the need of having a supremely powerful but small laser also attached to the camera. The KP was an utter disappointment, and like others on here, I think they had planned that it would be the new flagship CF camera until we the community gave them so much backlash. In my opinion, Pentax has made a name for itself in pushing technology forward and doing things the competition wouldn't think of, like Shake reduction, like Pixel Shift, like Astrotracer. Switchable filters, in my opinion, would be the next logical step forward in my opinion, but would take a while to develop.

07-29-2018, 07:41 AM	#417
travelswsage Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 385	Originally posted by aitrus3 They could be developing technology though that gives the new flag-ship model switchable IR/UV/Visible filters Is that possible? This and in-camera focus stacking would be fantastic to have on any body, APS-C or full frame. Are there any cameras out there currently with this ability?

07-29-2018, 07:57 AM	#418
aitrus3 Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Kamloops B.C. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,432	Originally posted by travelswsage Is that possible? This and in-camera focus stacking would be fantastic to have on any body, APS-C or full frame. Are there any cameras out there currently with this ability? No there aren't. I'm not sure if it is possible and I don't think there are any other cameras out there with it currently. But, they're far smarter than I am with this sort of thing and if I had the tools/ability/knowledge and money to try, I have an idea on how to make it work. Whether or not it makes the camera body too heavy/large is beyond me. Just conjecture. I'd like to think that they'd at least consider it as an idea, if nothing else.

07-29-2018, 08:06 AM - 1 Like	#419
photoptimist Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,122	Originally posted by aitrus3 There are new sensors out there. Newest of which are curved sensors but the wolves of the pentax community would howl at that move because it would mean their 'precious' lenses are useless, so new sensor tech is probably not where Ricoh will put their money. They could be developing technology though that gives the new flag-ship model switchable IR/UV/Visible filters. That would advance camera technology forward like their in body shake reduction already has. They could also develop the coding to turn their shake reduction system into a sort of adaptive optics for astrophotography purposes, although this would be harder due to the need of having a supremely powerful but small laser also attached to the camera. The KP was an utter disappointment, and like others on here, I think they had planned that it would be the new flagship CF camera until we the community gave them so much backlash. In my opinion, Pentax has made a name for itself in pushing technology forward and doing things the competition wouldn't think of, like Shake reduction, like Pixel Shift, like Astrotracer. Switchable filters, in my opinion, would be the next logical step forward in my opinion, but would take a while to develop. Curved sensors are interesting but the technology only offers an advantage for a fixed lens cameras because the curvature must be tailored to the focal length. Switchable filters would be a cool addition. The KP seems like an awesome camera that also reflects a core brand element of Pentax -- compactness. Many seem to love the KP's size and excellent image quality. The KP is only an utter disappointment to that small fraction of Pentaxians who wanted a "big camera."

07-29-2018, 08:08 AM - 2 Likes	#420
bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	Originally posted by T T Yes Pentax definitely need to improve in other areas, especially sports and action to compete with other brands and at the same time maintain its lead in landscape photography. Pentax should not try to compete with the other guy for sport at least professional .I hope you understand why!