Originally posted by dafbp [/COLOR]
The only thing I'd change in what you said (if I understood you correctly), is that I'd like them to be smaller, slower (f/4+), but maintain the same IQ as the current large and expensive ones.
Sure, they wouldn't be cheap, only cheaper, but I think when people buy into a system, especially for a brand like Pentax, which has basically no visibility (not stylish to own) for newer (younger?) buyers, they'll inevitably be comparing it with mirrorless, and whereas price won't be much of a problem, having to choose between quality and size might very well be.
I'm currently not interested in the K1 exactly because they don't have something like the DA 15Ltd for FF, only that huge 15-30. So I wait for the 11-18/K3iii pair...
And they did say they wanted to go upmarket.
Yes, that's my point, cheaper F/4 lenses with top notch IQ so as Canon is doing with its L series lenses.
CANON 16-35mm EF f/4 L : 1029€ (or 17-40mm f/4 : 679€)
CANON 24-70mm EF f/4 L IS USM : 799€ or (CANON 24-105mm EF f/4 L IS II USM : 1089€)
CANON 70-200mm EF f/4 L IS USM II : 1329€ (or version 1 for 619€)
TOTAL: 3157€
(with many second hands choice and thirds party lenses).
PENTAX 15-30mm f/2.8 ED WR HD FA : 1699 € (cannot use filters, or special very expensive 150mm filter-holder and filters)
PENTAX 24-70mm f/2.8 ED SDM WR : 1299 €
PENTAX DA* 70-200mm f/2.8 ED DC AW : 2299 €
TOTAL: 5297€
It's currenly very expensive to have a full FF setup in pentaxland.
(I agree its a Landspace photographer spoking
which do not care about f/2.8 lenses and UWA lenses that cannot accept filters).