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08-27-2018, 07:11 AM   #796
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
LS is stone age... No any sense for 645 system from Ricoh.
I like the whisper-quiet leaf shutter in my Q-7 lenses much more than the focal plane shutters on my various K-mount cameras.

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LS brings 6500 USD difference in price
Both items listed could have been related to 645z. New camera and new 45-85 zoom according to lens roadmap. :-)
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Such drama queens! both of them! Their fear of offending people talking about the new Nikon mirrorless was pitiful. Her multiple comments on, "firmware may make it better," over and over when talking about how bad the camera was made me want to scream. I may have posted something similar on the you tube page.
Sony FF mirrorless is simply better.

Sony has 3rd generation of FF mirrorless and without nursery illness. With superb AF system. We don't know how many problems Nikon Z6/Z7 brings to the users. Tracking AF is far from Nikon's DSLR, because Nikon is afraid of the inner competition between models. Anyway, A7RIII, A7III and A9 are better balanced than new Z. A9 is the top.
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Both items listed could have been related to 645z. New camera and new 45-85 zoom according to lens roadmap. :-)
How about 14-24?

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K2 already exist...
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How about 14-24?
Typo....
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QuoteOriginally posted by Pål Jensen Quote
K2 already exist...
But does K-2??? {they might decide dash makes different}

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K2 already exist...
But it's not a digital camera! Mmm... I'd make several branches from zero (from smaller to bigger), using Q for the Q mount, and K for the K mount cameras, M(edium), F(ull frame), A(PS-C), and 43 (micro four-thirds if interesting) sizes. This would mean a clear, simple and predictable way of naming things: KA-1 would be the DSLR successor of the K-3ii, and MKA-1 the mirroless equivalent, KAP-1 the successor to the KP if interesting, and KAS-1 the successor to the K-70, which is really important to keep the foot in the entry level market.

To summarize:

DSLR:

K-645N > KZ-645 > KM-1 (medium format) > MK-2, etc...
K-1 > K-1 ii > KF-1 (all full frame are of "pro level") > KF-2, etc...
K-3 > K-3 ii > KA-1 ("pro"/"prosumer" level APS-C cameras) > KA-2, etc...
KP ............ > KAP-1 (compact, light, compromise APSC cameras; advanced amateur/prosumer level) > KAP-2, etc...
K-50 > K-70 > KAS-1 (simpler cameras for entry level, amateur photography) > KAS-2, etc...


Mirrorless:

MKM-1 (mirrorless, medium format camera), etc.
MKF-1 (mirrorless, 35mm format camera), etc.
MKA-1 (mirrorless, APS-C format camera), etc.
Q > Q-51 > Q-10s > Q100, etc.

Easy peasy :-)
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
Sony FF mirrorless is simply better.

Sony has 3rd generation of FF mirrorless and without nursery illness. With superb AF system. We don't know how many problems Nikon Z6/Z7 brings to the users. Tracking AF is far from Nikon's DSLR, because Nikon is afraid of the inner competition between models. Anyway, A7RIII, A7III and A9 are better balanced than new Z. A9 is the top.
Why would Nikon be afraid of competing with their DSLRs? That makes no sense - a camera sale is a camera sale. Especially when it brings the possibility of more lens sales.
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QuoteOriginally posted by reh321 Quote
But does K-2??? {they might decide dash makes different}
They do
Kx vs. K-x
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QuoteOriginally posted by jumbleview Quote
K-3.14 (pi number) is great. With K-2.72 (e-number) to follow. And K- 1.41 (square root of 2) is not bad. And there are a lot more of math and physics constants to choose from.
That would be a lot of fun. But I would rather go for the math symbols, so nobody knows how to say it.


So I'd love to see the following three models and model names:

https://www.maplesoft.com/products/maple/new_features/images2016/mathequation.png

Go figure, which is the top line and which is entry level.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Excalibor Quote
But it's not a digital camera! Mmm... I'd make several branches from zero (from smaller to bigger), using Q for the Q mount, and K for the K mount cameras, M(edium), F(ull frame), A(PS-C), and 43 (micro four-thirds if interesting) sizes. This would mean a clear, simple and predictable way of naming things: KA-1 would be the DSLR successor of the K-3ii, and MKA-1 the mirroless equivalent, KAP-1 the successor to the KP if interesting, and KAS-1 the successor to the K-70, which is really important to keep the foot in the entry level market.

To summarize:

DSLR:

K-645N > KZ-645 > KM-1 (medium format) > MK-2, etc...
K-1 > K-1 ii > KF-1 (all full frame are of "pro level") > KF-2, etc...
K-3 > K-3 ii > KA-1 ("pro"/"prosumer" level APS-C cameras) > KA-2, etc...
KP ............ > KAP-1 (compact, light, compromise APSC cameras; advanced amateur/prosumer level) > KAP-2, etc...
K-50 > K-70 > KAS-1 (simpler cameras for entry level, amateur photography) > KAS-2, etc...


Mirrorless:

MKM-1 (mirrorless, medium format camera), etc.
MKF-1 (mirrorless, 35mm format camera), etc.
MKA-1 (mirrorless, APS-C format camera), etc.
Q > Q-51 > Q-10s > Q100, etc.

Easy peasy :-)
Way too much Logic being exhibited here! You are hereby penalized 10 K-1/K-1II raffle posts.
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QuoteOriginally posted by beholder3 Quote
That would be a lot of fun. But I would rather go for the math symbols, so nobody knows how to say it.


So I'd love to see the following three models and model names:

https://www.maplesoft.com/products/maple/new_features/images2016/mathequation.png

Go figure, which is the top line and which is entry level.
Not that hard: the first one is the K-1 (it says so in the equation itself!!!); the second one is the K-2n; and the third one is, actually, two cameras: iKN and iKP... which I like, somehow! (via normalization where 2*pi = 1... :-D; and Apple not sueing Ricoh...)

Cheers!

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Way too much Logic being exhibited here! You are hereby penalized 10 K-1/K-1II raffle posts.
That's unfair; I can be as illogical as Ricoh, and even more! The successor of the K3-ii is, obviously, the Pentax *Ing-70s (so we have, Starring the Seventies: Disco!!!! all other rivals, KO... ;-)

I promise never again to mishave.

Cheers!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Excalibor Quote
Not that hard: the first one is the K-1 (it says so in the equation itself!!!); the second one is the K-2n; and the third one is, actually, two cameras: iKN and iKP... which I like, somehow! (via normalization where 2*pi = 1... :-D; and Apple not sueing Ricoh...)

Cheers!

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That's unfair; I can be as illogical as Ricoh, and even more! The successor of the K3-ii is, obviously, the Pentax *Ing-70s (so we have, Starring the Seventies: Disco!!!! all other rivals, KO... ;-)

I promise never again to mishave.

Cheers!
OK, with that answer you are herewith restored with your K-1/K-1II raffle points. Just remember never be this logical again!!
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Why would Nikon be afraid of competing with their DSLRs? That makes no sense - a camera sale is a camera sale. Especially when it brings the possibility of more lens sales.
1.Worse tracking AF (much worse). 2. Weak battery. 3. No SD card and second card slot. 4. Smaller buffer. 5. Less fps.
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