K3ii replacement

BROO · 09-30-2018, 01:19 AM

Maybe Ricoh are putting all their eggs into a FF DSLR basket and are planning a camera similar to the Nikon D850? Give it a 50Mp sensor and 4K video etc. Maybe this camera in crop mode will be the K3 replacement?

RonHendriks1966 · 09-30-2018, 01:26 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by BROO

Maybe Ricoh are putting all their eggs into a FF DSLR basket and are planning a camera similar to the Nikon D850? Give it a 50Mp sensor and 4K video etc. Maybe this camera in crop mode will be the K3 replacement?

A 3000 $ fullframe camera to replace a crop camera?

Chris Mak · 09-30-2018, 01:32 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ventaxian

Where does that leave us?

It leaves us with a KP and a K1II.

Chris

BROO · 09-30-2018, 01:32 AM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

A 3000 $ fullframe camera to replace a crop camera?

Yes
They are going up market. If you can't stomach the price then buy the KP. Simple.

Chris Mak · 09-30-2018, 01:34 AM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

A 3000 $ fullframe camera to replace a crop camera?

Actually, to replace a flagship APSC camera. There is still the KP for all else.

Chris

BROO · 09-30-2018, 02:28 AM

Originally posted by Chris Mak

Actually, to replace a flagship APSC camera. There is still the KP for all else.

I think the flagship Pentax camera will be a FF. Just look at the lens development.D FA* lenses. FF is very fashionable now, as is mirrorless. Pentax are committed to DSLR cameras. It is a very competitive market now. I think Ricoh will pool all resources into developing a high end FF camera. Maybe this tech will trickle down to ASP-C in the future if there is a business case. Just my thoughts.

panonski · 09-30-2018, 03:10 AM

FF and Medium format are tiny part of Pentax profit,
so assuming that will be no any new APSC is just wrong.

Sure, the on going trend is in the mirrorless FF - but others manufactures is leaving their pro consumer line up and updating it.

Pentax is just slow. They have problems with their head executives, and maybe fresh development team, and we cannot forget the SONY is the leader in sensor industry.

Small needs tend to have bigger output price.
Canon surely can make better deal with Sony , than Pentax can.

But, I'm sure positive
they will be launch new APSC camera - KP is a clearly the evidence they're not forgeting it.

Last edited by panonski; 09-30-2018 at 03:15 AM.

BROO · 09-30-2018, 03:14 AM - **1 Like**

Who is assuming that there will be no new ASP-C ?

panonski · 09-30-2018, 03:18 AM

Originally posted by BROO

Who is assuming that there will be no new ASP-C ?

pushing over the cliff ?

BROO · 09-30-2018, 03:25 AM

Originally posted by BROO

Maybe this tech will trickle down to ASP-C in the future if there is a business case. Just my thoughts.

Originally posted by panonski

pushing over the cliff ?

I am just talking about the flagship model being FF. I am sure ASP-C has a future. It is especially useful for macro and long telephoto shooting.

panonski · 09-30-2018, 03:45 AM

Originally posted by BROO

I am just talking about the flagship model being FF. I am sure ASP-C has a future. It is especially useful for macro and long telephoto shooting.

All manufactures have long history in APSC - and their development in FF have to make some money.

Sure they are pushing FF, because of that - but I can assure you - it's simply not consumer niche, and without APSC flagships - they will not make more money.

They're just pushing it, because it's the new stuff. That's all.

First manufacturer with very good PRO apsc, and older brother in PRO FF - would benefit from the market

This thread is also the good example for that.
K3 is very well balanced camera, and it can be used with more than decent results - even 4 years after release.

With good glass - it can deliver very fine and professional results.

totsmuyco · 09-30-2018, 03:49 AM - **2 Likes**

There are some who are pure APSC users and that includes me. So be it Nikon, Canon, Sony, Fuji or Pentax there will be always a demand for APSC cameras.

**Belnan** · 09-30-2018, 04:10 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

A 3000 $ fullframe camera to replace a crop camera?

Maybe the K3 replacement will be a sub 2000 dollar FF camera simlilar to the D750 in specs. Crop mode will be a bit meh but otherwise it could be good follow up. I would buy one.

**Larrymc** · 09-30-2018, 05:25 AM

Originally posted by BROO

Maybe Ricoh are putting all their eggs into a FF DSLR basket and are planning a camera similar to the Nikon D850? Give it a 50Mp sensor and 4K video etc. Maybe this camera in crop mode will be the K3 replacement?

Stop and think about that statement. Who in their right mind would want that?

**Larrymc** · 09-30-2018, 06:12 AM

Originally posted by BROO

I am just talking about the flagship model being FF. I am sure ASP-C has a future. It is especially useful for macro and long telephoto shooting.

You're hung up on the term Flagship.........how about High Spec. APSC model

09-30-2018, 03:45 AM	#1736
panonski Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Zagreb Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 624	Originally posted by BROO I am just talking about the flagship model being FF. I am sure ASP-C has a future. It is especially useful for macro and long telephoto shooting. All manufactures have long history in APSC - and their development in FF have to make some money. Sure they are pushing FF, because of that - but I can assure you - it's simply not consumer niche, and without APSC flagships - they will not make more money. They're just pushing it, because it's the new stuff. That's all. First manufacturer with very good PRO apsc, and older brother in PRO FF - would benefit from the market This thread is also the good example for that. K3 is very well balanced camera, and it can be used with more than decent results - even 4 years after release. With good glass - it can deliver very fine and professional results. Last edited by panonski; 09-30-2018 at 04:23 AM.

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09-30-2018, 01:19 AM	#1726
BROO Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 655	Maybe Ricoh are putting all their eggs into a FF DSLR basket and are planning a camera similar to the Nikon D850? Give it a 50Mp sensor and 4K video etc. Maybe this camera in crop mode will be the K3 replacement?

09-30-2018, 01:26 AM - 1 Like	#1727
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by BROO Maybe Ricoh are putting all their eggs into a FF DSLR basket and are planning a camera similar to the Nikon D850? Give it a 50Mp sensor and 4K video etc. Maybe this camera in crop mode will be the K3 replacement? A 3000 $ fullframe camera to replace a crop camera?

09-30-2018, 01:32 AM - 1 Like	#1728
Chris Mak Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 639	Originally posted by ventaxian Where does that leave us? It leaves us with a KP and a K1II. Chris

09-30-2018, 01:32 AM	#1729
BROO Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 655	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 A 3000 $ fullframe camera to replace a crop camera? Yes They are going up market. If you can't stomach the price then buy the KP. Simple.

09-30-2018, 01:34 AM	#1730
Chris Mak Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 639	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 A 3000 $ fullframe camera to replace a crop camera? Actually, to replace a flagship APSC camera. There is still the KP for all else. Chris

09-30-2018, 02:28 AM	#1731
BROO Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 655	Originally posted by Chris Mak Actually, to replace a flagship APSC camera. There is still the KP for all else. I think the flagship Pentax camera will be a FF. Just look at the lens development.D FA* lenses. FF is very fashionable now, as is mirrorless. Pentax are committed to DSLR cameras. It is a very competitive market now. I think Ricoh will pool all resources into developing a high end FF camera. Maybe this tech will trickle down to ASP-C in the future if there is a business case. Just my thoughts.

09-30-2018, 03:10 AM	#1732
panonski Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Zagreb Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 624	FF and Medium format are tiny part of Pentax profit, so assuming that will be no any new APSC is just wrong. Sure, the on going trend is in the mirrorless FF - but others manufactures is leaving their pro consumer line up and updating it. Pentax is just slow. They have problems with their head executives, and maybe fresh development team, and we cannot forget the SONY is the leader in sensor industry. Small needs tend to have bigger output price. Canon surely can make better deal with Sony , than Pentax can. But, I'm sure positive they will be launch new APSC camera - KP is a clearly the evidence they're not forgeting it. Last edited by panonski; 09-30-2018 at 03:15 AM.

09-30-2018, 03:14 AM - 1 Like	#1733
BROO Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 655	Who is assuming that there will be no new ASP-C ?

09-30-2018, 03:18 AM	#1734
panonski Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Zagreb Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 624	Originally posted by BROO Who is assuming that there will be no new ASP-C ? pushing over the cliff ?

09-30-2018, 03:25 AM	#1735
BROO Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 655	Originally posted by BROO Maybe this tech will trickle down to ASP-C in the future if there is a business case. Just my thoughts. Originally posted by panonski pushing over the cliff ? I am just talking about the flagship model being FF. I am sure ASP-C has a future. It is especially useful for macro and long telephoto shooting.

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09-30-2018, 03:49 AM - 2 Likes	#1737
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	There are some who are pure APSC users and that includes me. So be it Nikon, Canon, Sony, Fuji or Pentax there will be always a demand for APSC cameras.

09-30-2018, 04:10 AM - 1 Like	#1738
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 A 3000 $ fullframe camera to replace a crop camera? Maybe the K3 replacement will be a sub 2000 dollar FF camera simlilar to the D750 in specs. Crop mode will be a bit meh but otherwise it could be good follow up. I would buy one.

09-30-2018, 05:25 AM	#1739
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by BROO Maybe Ricoh are putting all their eggs into a FF DSLR basket and are planning a camera similar to the Nikon D850? Give it a 50Mp sensor and 4K video etc. Maybe this camera in crop mode will be the K3 replacement? Stop and think about that statement. Who in their right mind would want that?

09-30-2018, 06:12 AM	#1740
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by BROO I am just talking about the flagship model being FF. I am sure ASP-C has a future. It is especially useful for macro and long telephoto shooting. You're hung up on the term Flagship.........how about High Spec. APSC model