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photoptimist · 10-02-2018, 10:28 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Kunzite

Buy mirrorless, they say. It's small and light, they say.

LOL! Buy mirrorless, they say. It's also cheaper, they say.

RonHendriks1966 · 10-02-2018, 10:37 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by photoptimist

LOL! Buy mirrorless, they say. It's also cheaper, they say.

No no no.....the average dslr is 75 % of the cost of the average mirrorless. .......

Actually dslr is for people who can't afford a propper mirrorless these days. You know people who get stared at because they are so pore. ...

**Belnan** · 10-02-2018, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

No no no.....the average dslr is 75 % of the cost of the average mirrorless. .......

Actually dslr is for people who can't afford a propper mirrorless these days. You know people who get stared at because they are so pore. ...

Buying a "cool" camera comes at a premium price. DSLR's aren't cool don't you know.

With that being said many new mirrorless are very quick and capable camera's and that is reflected in the prices.

---------- Post added 10-02-18 at 11:29 AM ----------

Originally posted by reh321

Only I am willing to talk about K-3 replacement?

What K-3 replacement?

**jatrax** · 10-02-2018, 12:09 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Belnan

What K-3 replacement?

The one this thread is about................................

MarkJerling · 10-02-2018, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by MetteHHH

There IS some overlap: Colourful, fast moving things, and the photographer doesn't get to direct the action or call for retakes when the shot failed.

My subjects are a lot prettier and more exciting though.

Also smaller and more fast-moving.

The camera must like focussing on soccer players more!

**Pål Jensen** · 10-02-2018, 12:28 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by jatrax

The one this thread is about................................

I think it is pretty clear what the "K-3" replacement is all about from whats leaked out:

1) It is sufficiently different in tech and/or execution not to be be considered as a direct sucessor to the K-3.
2) It will be an APS flagship and from whats suggested early this year, the K-mount flagship (hence K-1 owners might want one).
3) It will come in 2019 to coincide with Pentax 100 year anniversary.

I suspect it will have a hybrid finder system.

reh321 · 10-02-2018, 12:36 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

I think it is pretty clear what the "K-3" replacement is all about from whats leaked out:

1) It is sufficiently different in tech and/or execution not to be be considered as a direct sucessor to the K-3.
2) It will be an APS flagship and from whats suggested early this year, the K-mount flagship (hence K-1 owners might want one).
3) It will come in 2019 to coincide with Pentax 100 year anniversary.

I suspect it will have a hybrid finder system.

I suspect it will have the look-and-feel of a K-1.

I'm guessing Pentax will use that general look to distinguish their cameras from other cameras.

The Squirrel Mafia · 10-02-2018, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

I think it is pretty clear what the "K-3" replacement is all about from whats leaked out:

1) It is sufficiently different in tech and/or execution not to be be considered as a direct sucessor to the K-3.
2) It will be an APS flagship and from whats suggested early this year, the K-mount flagship (hence K-1 owners might want one).
3) It will come in 2019 to coincide with Pentax 100 year anniversary.

I suspect it will have a hybrid finder system.

This sounds very exciting if they do apply this technology. Been reading up on that patent. Hopefully 2019 will be the year for Pentax.

**Belnan** · 10-02-2018, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

I think it is pretty clear what the "K-3" replacement is all about from whats leaked out:

1) It is sufficiently different in tech and/or execution not to be be considered as a direct sucessor to the K-3.
2) It will be an APS flagship and from whats suggested early this year, the K-mount flagship (hence K-1 owners might want one).
3) It will come in 2019 to coincide with Pentax 100 year anniversary.

I suspect it will have a hybrid finder system.

1) not a traditional DSLR, this could mean:
A)Mirrorless
B) hybrid viewfinder
C) new translucent mirrorless tech
D) B and C

2) high speed and high resolution

3) I hope so

MMVIII · 10-02-2018, 02:34 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by photoptimist

LOL! Buy mirrorless, they say. It's also cheaper, they say.

Buy mirrorless. Only this gives you the best image quality. Oh, wait...
Nikon Z7 First Impressions Review: Digital Photography Review

**Belnan** · 10-02-2018, 03:28 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by MMVIII

Buy mirrorless. Only this gives you the best image quality. Oh, wait...
Nikon Z7 First Impressions Review: Digital Photography Review

The K-1 II smokes it, unfortunately with most companies moving to mirrorless it may be hard to find a sensor that doesnt have a banding issue. Maybe some sensors will be made with limited number of or no board phase detection points.

pakinjapan · 10-02-2018, 04:43 PM

I read a comment on the internet some time ago, I cannot remember word for word but it is something like - people talking about their brand moving into the mirrorless market, a new territory, etc but Pentax users can only / still talk about the 2 delayed lenses on the roadmap. I couldn’t angry at such comment but only laugh at myself… yeeeeah, that’s truth. whatever!
Hopefully i still happy with my k3.

Next year is the 100 year’s old birthday of the brand? I hope they have something more than a new shiny roadmap to show at CP+. Anything,… GR3.5.1.0 Gunmetal Limited Edition? bring it on
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

photoptimist · 10-02-2018, 05:07 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by MMVIII

Buy mirrorless. Only this gives you the best image quality. Oh, wait...
Nikon Z7 First Impressions Review: Digital Photography Review

Indeed!

See also: PDAF striping on the Sony a9, PDAF striping on the Sony a7RIII

Personally, I want a photographic camera with a sensor optimized solely to make photographs. I don't want is compromised by the engineering needs of autofocus or video.

mee · 10-02-2018, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia

This sounds very exciting if they do apply this technology. Been reading up on that patent. Hopefully 2019 will be the year for Pentax.

I hope you get the camera you've been waiting for very long to receive! A hybrid viewfinder with more focusing aids and the ability to use CDAF to micro adjust lenses for PDAF would be super. You'd get some of the niceties of mirrorless ilcs without having to switch mounts.

I really do hope they update the DA* zooms and some of the cheaper primes that are still on screwdrive sooner than later though. They seem so antiquated today...

surfar · 10-02-2018, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by photoptimist

I don't want is compromised by the engineering needs of autofocus or video.

Well,sedans/stationwagons/hatches come with a rear seat...you dont have to travel there!

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10-02-2018, 10:28 AM - 2 Likes	#1831
photoptimist Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,128	Originally posted by Kunzite Buy mirrorless, they say. It's small and light, they say. LOL! Buy mirrorless, they say. It's also cheaper, they say.

10-02-2018, 10:37 AM - 1 Like	#1832
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by photoptimist LOL! Buy mirrorless, they say. It's also cheaper, they say. No no no.....the average dslr is 75 % of the cost of the average mirrorless. ....... Actually dslr is for people who can't afford a propper mirrorless these days. You know people who get stared at because they are so pore. ...

10-02-2018, 11:04 AM	#1833
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 No no no.....the average dslr is 75 % of the cost of the average mirrorless. ....... Actually dslr is for people who can't afford a propper mirrorless these days. You know people who get stared at because they are so pore. ... Buying a "cool" camera comes at a premium price. DSLR's aren't cool don't you know. With that being said many new mirrorless are very quick and capable camera's and that is reflected in the prices. ---------- Post added 10-02-18 at 11:29 AM ---------- Originally posted by reh321 Only I am willing to talk about K-3 replacement? What K-3 replacement?

10-02-2018, 12:09 PM - 1 Like	#1834
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by Belnan What K-3 replacement? The one this thread is about................................

10-02-2018, 12:15 PM	#1835
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,423	Originally posted by MetteHHH There IS some overlap: Colourful, fast moving things, and the photographer doesn't get to direct the action or call for retakes when the shot failed. My subjects are a lot prettier and more exciting though. Also smaller and more fast-moving. The camera must like focussing on soccer players more!

10-02-2018, 12:28 PM - 1 Like	#1836
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by jatrax The one this thread is about................................ I think it is pretty clear what the "K-3" replacement is all about from whats leaked out: 1) It is sufficiently different in tech and/or execution not to be be considered as a direct sucessor to the K-3. 2) It will be an APS flagship and from whats suggested early this year, the K-mount flagship (hence K-1 owners might want one). 3) It will come in 2019 to coincide with Pentax 100 year anniversary. I suspect it will have a hybrid finder system.

10-02-2018, 12:36 PM - 1 Like	#1837
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,185	Originally posted by Pål Jensen I think it is pretty clear what the "K-3" replacement is all about from whats leaked out: 1) It is sufficiently different in tech and/or execution not to be be considered as a direct sucessor to the K-3. 2) It will be an APS flagship and from whats suggested early this year, the K-mount flagship (hence K-1 owners might want one). 3) It will come in 2019 to coincide with Pentax 100 year anniversary. I suspect it will have a hybrid finder system. I suspect it will have the look-and-feel of a K-1. I'm guessing Pentax will use that general look to distinguish their cameras from other cameras.

10-02-2018, 12:46 PM	#1838
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,058	Originally posted by Pål Jensen I think it is pretty clear what the "K-3" replacement is all about from whats leaked out: 1) It is sufficiently different in tech and/or execution not to be be considered as a direct sucessor to the K-3. 2) It will be an APS flagship and from whats suggested early this year, the K-mount flagship (hence K-1 owners might want one). 3) It will come in 2019 to coincide with Pentax 100 year anniversary. I suspect it will have a hybrid finder system. This sounds very exciting if they do apply this technology. Been reading up on that patent. Hopefully 2019 will be the year for Pentax.

10-02-2018, 01:52 PM	#1839
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	Originally posted by Pål Jensen I think it is pretty clear what the "K-3" replacement is all about from whats leaked out: 1) It is sufficiently different in tech and/or execution not to be be considered as a direct sucessor to the K-3. 2) It will be an APS flagship and from whats suggested early this year, the K-mount flagship (hence K-1 owners might want one). 3) It will come in 2019 to coincide with Pentax 100 year anniversary. I suspect it will have a hybrid finder system. 1) not a traditional DSLR, this could mean: A)Mirrorless B) hybrid viewfinder C) new translucent mirrorless tech D) B and C 2) high speed and high resolution 3) I hope so

10-02-2018, 02:34 PM - 3 Likes	#1840
MMVIII Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: EU Posts: 1,121	Originally posted by photoptimist LOL! Buy mirrorless, they say. It's also cheaper, they say. Buy mirrorless. Only this gives you the best image quality. Oh, wait... Nikon Z7 First Impressions Review: Digital Photography Review

10-02-2018, 03:28 PM - 1 Like	#1841
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	Originally posted by MMVIII Buy mirrorless. Only this gives you the best image quality. Oh, wait... Nikon Z7 First Impressions Review: Digital Photography Review The K-1 II smokes it, unfortunately with most companies moving to mirrorless it may be hard to find a sensor that doesnt have a banding issue. Maybe some sensors will be made with limited number of or no board phase detection points.

10-02-2018, 04:43 PM	#1842
pakinjapan Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,041	I read a comment on the internet some time ago, I cannot remember word for word but it is something like - people talking about their brand moving into the mirrorless market, a new territory, etc but Pentax users can only / still talk about the 2 delayed lenses on the roadmap. I couldn’t angry at such comment but only laugh at myself… yeeeeah, that’s truth. whatever! Hopefully i still happy with my k3. Next year is the 100 year’s old birthday of the brand? I hope they have something more than a new shiny roadmap to show at CP+. Anything,… GR3.5.1.0 Gunmetal Limited Edition? bring it on ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

10-02-2018, 05:07 PM - 2 Likes	#1843
photoptimist Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,128	Originally posted by MMVIII Buy mirrorless. Only this gives you the best image quality. Oh, wait... Nikon Z7 First Impressions Review: Digital Photography Review Indeed! See also: PDAF striping on the Sony a9, PDAF striping on the Sony a7RIII Personally, I want a photographic camera with a sensor optimized solely to make photographs. I don't want is compromised by the engineering needs of autofocus or video.

10-02-2018, 05:29 PM	#1844
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia This sounds very exciting if they do apply this technology. Been reading up on that patent. Hopefully 2019 will be the year for Pentax. I hope you get the camera you've been waiting for very long to receive! A hybrid viewfinder with more focusing aids and the ability to use CDAF to micro adjust lenses for PDAF would be super. You'd get some of the niceties of mirrorless ilcs without having to switch mounts. I really do hope they update the DA* zooms and some of the cheaper primes that are still on screwdrive sooner than later though. They seem so antiquated today...

10-02-2018, 05:30 PM	#1845
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,145	Originally posted by photoptimist I don't want is compromised by the engineering needs of autofocus or video. Well,sedans/stationwagons/hatches come with a rear seat...you dont have to travel there!

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