K3ii replacement

reh321 · 10-26-2018, 08:25 AM

Originally posted by taktoon

KP would be rally nice if introduced with 3 new bright (f1.8 or f2.0) DA limiteds (around 20mm, 35mm and 70mm) with WR and silent motors. It would be a nice kit. I do not think Pentax is Doomed just it looks like their higher positioning of the brand may be going full frame DSLR. The biggest drawback for Pentax APS-C system now is Pentax FF system. It is not a fact it is only my opinion.

Originally posted by ogl

Pure fantasies...

Perhaps ..... but fertile imaginations like mine will keep firing when those who do know refuse to provide even hints.

lytrytyr · 10-26-2018, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

And it's unthinkable even now - the DA* 11-18mm f/2.8 is still planned for the next year, right?

The 09 Telephoto Macro was also planned. As I said, "uneasy echoes"!

Kunzite · 10-26-2018, 09:35 AM - **2 Likes**

The 09 Telephoto Macro was planned until it wasn't.
I would worry about the DA* 11-18mm disappearing only if it does. Otherwise, one could go as far as wondering each evening, "would the Sun come up again tomorrow?"

**BigMackCam** · 10-26-2018, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

The 09 Telephoto Macro was planned until it wasn't.
I would worry about the DA* 11-18mm disappearing only if it does. Otherwise, one could go as far as wondering each evening, "would the Sun come up again tomorrow?"

^^^ This

lytrytyr · 10-26-2018, 09:56 AM

Reading the tea-leaves gave me the chance to back-fill my Q system
before that became too expensive and time-consuming.

Except for a DA* 11-18, which seems like it could be as good as the 09 would have been,
I'm all set for APS-C, so no personal worries there.

RonHendriks1966 · 10-26-2018, 10:24 AM

In the financial report that was published today there was a reference to probably the K-3ii. Sales decreased (due to limited lineup) and profit increased. Well one year ago the K-3ii was still part of the line-up, but then profit was lower. So I think Ricoh is very happy with this reduced lineup.

I think they want to see if this smaller lineup keeps rolling in profit, instead of expenditures the line-up and see profit going down again.

reh321 · 10-26-2018, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by lytrytyr

That question would have been totally unthinkable until recently,
but the fact that it was even broached during @subsea's PhotoPlus visit
did stir up some uneasy echoes of the retirement of the Q line:

This is applying too much imagination, even for me.
Asahiman has indicated Pentax is focusing on FF - that does not mean they are "retiring" APS-C, but they will devote resources to FF that could be devoted to APS-C. Given a choice between working on APS-C or FF, someone will work on FF. An APS-C project will take longer this year than it would have taken a couple years ago - but in the past someone would not have expected a new camera every year. Apparently they may have miscalculated production run needed to carry them through this period.

Kunzite · 10-26-2018, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by reh321

they will devote resources to FF that could be devoted to APS-C

Yes, especially on the lens side.
People are in a hurry to interpret and misinterpret Asahiman's words, but it's something we can clearly see from the lens roadmap: one DA* vs 5 D FA and D FA* lenses. (sure, not all lenses would first appear on the roadmap)

**Merv-O** · 10-26-2018, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

Maybe they pull a sequal like with the WG-60 and bring a K-3iii with accelerator and leave the rest of the camera like the K-3ii was.

Indeed...the speculation is like foreplay, I think Ricoh is teasing us all and they're gonna drop a new camera on us soon...In the meantime, my trusty K-3 trudges on like a good soldier with no defects....

lytrytyr · 10-26-2018, 06:39 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Kunzite

Otherwise, one could go as far as wondering each evening, "would the Sun come up again tomorrow?"

Fortunately, we don't have to rely on Ricoh for solar power!

photoptimist · 10-26-2018, 06:46 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by lytrytyr

Fortunately, we don't have to rely on Ricoh for solar power!

Hmm... Lets think about that a moment....

Our sun is full-frame, robust body, weather proof, great dynamic range, and astrotraces across the sky.

It's clearly a Pentax!

(I wonder if the back side of the Sun has HOCIR written on it?)

lytrytyr · 10-26-2018, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by photoptimist

(I wonder if the back side of the Sun has HOCIR written on it?)

We should find out in six months' time!

bladerunner6 · 10-27-2018, 03:33 AM - **2 Likes**

From the PhotoPlus interview:

“Q: As a growing number of users are becoming vocal about not wanting to compromise with the KP, is the high-end APS-C (i.e. K-3 II) product line one which will be continued?

A: This is being worked on. If you like the K-1 and some of its features, look for an APS-C offering in the not too distant future.”

**beachgardener** · 10-27-2018, 03:45 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by bladerunner6

A: This is being worked on. If you like the K-1 and some of its features, look for an APS-C offering in the not too distant future.”

nice answer

woodworm · 10-27-2018, 04:19 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by photoptimist

Hmm... Lets think about that a moment....

Our sun is full-frame, robust body, weather proof, great dynamic range, and astrotraces across the sky.

It's clearly a Pentax!

(I wonder if the back side of the Sun has HOCIR written on it?)

Yes, but there are bigger brighter stars out there!

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10-26-2018, 08:25 AM	#2281
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by taktoon KP would be rally nice if introduced with 3 new bright (f1.8 or f2.0) DA limiteds (around 20mm, 35mm and 70mm) with WR and silent motors. It would be a nice kit. I do not think Pentax is Doomed just it looks like their higher positioning of the brand may be going full frame DSLR. The biggest drawback for Pentax APS-C system now is Pentax FF system. It is not a fact it is only my opinion. Originally posted by ogl Pure fantasies... Perhaps ..... but fertile imaginations like mine will keep firing when those who do know refuse to provide even hints.

10-26-2018, 09:33 AM	#2282
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by Kunzite And it's unthinkable even now - the DA* 11-18mm f/2.8 is still planned for the next year, right? The 09 Telephoto Macro was also planned. As I said, "uneasy echoes"!

10-26-2018, 09:35 AM - 2 Likes	#2283
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	The 09 Telephoto Macro was planned until it wasn't. I would worry about the DA* 11-18mm disappearing only if it does. Otherwise, one could go as far as wondering each evening, "would the Sun come up again tomorrow?"

10-26-2018, 09:45 AM	#2284
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,674	Originally posted by Kunzite The 09 Telephoto Macro was planned until it wasn't. I would worry about the DA* 11-18mm disappearing only if it does. Otherwise, one could go as far as wondering each evening, "would the Sun come up again tomorrow?" ^^^ This

10-26-2018, 09:56 AM	#2285
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310	Reading the tea-leaves gave me the chance to back-fill my Q system before that became too expensive and time-consuming. Except for a DA* 11-18, which seems like it could be as good as the 09 would have been, I'm all set for APS-C, so no personal worries there.

10-26-2018, 10:24 AM	#2286
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	In the financial report that was published today there was a reference to probably the K-3ii. Sales decreased (due to limited lineup) and profit increased. Well one year ago the K-3ii was still part of the line-up, but then profit was lower. So I think Ricoh is very happy with this reduced lineup. I think they want to see if this smaller lineup keeps rolling in profit, instead of expenditures the line-up and see profit going down again.

10-26-2018, 10:32 AM	#2287
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by lytrytyr That question would have been totally unthinkable until recently, but the fact that it was even broached during @subsea's PhotoPlus visit did stir up some uneasy echoes of the retirement of the Q line: This is applying too much imagination, even for me. Asahiman has indicated Pentax is focusing on FF - that does not mean they are "retiring" APS-C, but they will devote resources to FF that could be devoted to APS-C. Given a choice between working on APS-C or FF, someone will work on FF. An APS-C project will take longer this year than it would have taken a couple years ago - but in the past someone would not have expected a new camera every year. Apparently they may have miscalculated production run needed to carry them through this period.

10-26-2018, 11:28 AM	#2288
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by reh321 they will devote resources to FF that could be devoted to APS-C Yes, especially on the lens side. People are in a hurry to interpret and misinterpret Asahiman's words, but it's something we can clearly see from the lens roadmap: one DA* vs 5 D FA and D FA* lenses. (sure, not all lenses would first appear on the roadmap)

10-26-2018, 12:18 PM	#2289
Merv-O Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Philadelphia Photos: Albums Posts: 2,098	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 Maybe they pull a sequal like with the WG-60 and bring a K-3iii with accelerator and leave the rest of the camera like the K-3ii was. Indeed...the speculation is like foreplay, I think Ricoh is teasing us all and they're gonna drop a new camera on us soon...In the meantime, my trusty K-3 trudges on like a good soldier with no defects....

10-26-2018, 06:39 PM - 2 Likes	#2290
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by Kunzite Otherwise, one could go as far as wondering each evening, "would the Sun come up again tomorrow?" Fortunately, we don't have to rely on Ricoh for solar power!

10-26-2018, 06:46 PM - 1 Like	#2291
photoptimist Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,126	Originally posted by lytrytyr Fortunately, we don't have to rely on Ricoh for solar power! Hmm... Lets think about that a moment.... Our sun is full-frame, robust body, weather proof, great dynamic range, and astrotraces across the sky. It's clearly a Pentax! (I wonder if the back side of the Sun has HOCIR written on it?)

10-26-2018, 06:57 PM	#2292
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by photoptimist (I wonder if the back side of the Sun has HOCIR written on it?) We should find out in six months' time!

10-27-2018, 03:33 AM - 2 Likes	#2293
bladerunner6 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 2,080	From the PhotoPlus interview: “Q: As a growing number of users are becoming vocal about not wanting to compromise with the KP, is the high-end APS-C (i.e. K-3 II) product line one which will be continued? A: This is being worked on. If you like the K-1 and some of its features, look for an APS-C offering in the not too distant future.”

10-27-2018, 03:45 AM - 1 Like	#2294
beachgardener Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,842	Originally posted by bladerunner6 A: This is being worked on. If you like the K-1 and some of its features, look for an APS-C offering in the not too distant future.” nice answer

10-27-2018, 04:19 AM - 1 Like	#2295
woodworm Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: North Wales Posts: 266	Originally posted by photoptimist Hmm... Lets think about that a moment.... Our sun is full-frame, robust body, weather proof, great dynamic range, and astrotraces across the sky. It's clearly a Pentax! (I wonder if the back side of the Sun has HOCIR written on it?) Yes, but there are bigger brighter stars out there!