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08-31-2008, 02:15 PM   #46
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QuoteOriginally posted by gnaztee Quote
So, the 60-250 looks to be around $850 street? How would that suddenly make it beyond many folks' means? I mean, with the DA* zooms at $650 and $750, how is $850 a suprise? And the previous posters math using a straight exchange rate is way off. Look up prices on online U.K. photo shops, for Pentax lenses the number of GBP roughly matches the number of dollars on U.S. sites.
I have no infos on that but I expect to pay 900-1000 Euro for that lens, something around the price of DA* 300 and much more than the other 2 DA* zooms.

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QuoteOriginally posted by RaduA Quote
I have no infos on that but I expect to pay 900-1000 Euro for that lens, something around the price of DA* 300 and much more than the other 2 DA* zooms.

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Now I really don't see the point. A Tamron 70-200 is $699 in the US.

Heck, even a Canon 70-200 f/2.8 is $1,100. Why would I pay roughly 1,300 for something slower? I mean sure you go 10mm wider and 50mm closer, but that constant f/2.8 and internal zoom are deal breakers for me.
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Well, obviously I don't know how Pentax determines their prices, but if you compare the 60-250 to the Canon 70-200 f4, the IS version is $1100, the non-IS is $600. The DA* won't need IS, so something in-between those prices seems reasonable.
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This makes me so happy...

Well, I fully admit I have my K10D rig up for sale in the photographers marketplace, as much as it pained me to do so, since I love it and it serves me well and it helps me learn...a lot! Now Sigma has the 70-200 shipping soon and it's official news on their website. I'm a much happier camper now, and will be less likely to jump ship to Canon as I thought I might.

I just hate waiting sometimes...

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Now I really don't see the point. A Tamron 70-200 is $699 in the US.

Heck, even a Canon 70-200 f/2.8 is $1,100. Why would I pay roughly 1,300 for something slower? I mean sure you go 10mm wider and 50mm closer, but that constant f/2.8 and internal zoom are deal breakers for me.
I assume you're talking about this 2001 Canon lens:
Amazon.com: Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM Telephoto Zoom Lens for Canon SLR Cameras: Camera & Photo - 1700 USD;
Canon 70-200 mm EF 1:2.8L IS USM - Foto Erhardt - 1629 Euro
Anyway I cannot mount it on my K20D obviously

About the Tamron I only saw some review (dpreview mostly) but I guess that if for a "normal" lens weather sealing is nice to have for a tele it's a must. Otherwise all that body + grip are insulated for nothing. Besides I don't see myself shooting this kind of lens in my apartment anyway so I need it.

And the Sigma's review from dpreview shows pretty poor optics.

I reserve my judgement of DA* after it will appear if it's very good why not to pay 900 Euro? Chris here said that it's suposedly very good from f4,5 upwards so let's wait and see. Many people support Pentax vocally but not all are ready to pay more than for a Sigma or Tamron. I am not ready to put a Pentax * lens next to some Tamron yet ...

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...as someone who comes from somewhere else where the prices are ridiculous (Read NZ) I appreciate this)
How can the prices be bad here when there's nothing on the shelves anyway? So we buy from B&H anyway?
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QuoteOriginally posted by thibs Quote
Without any AF support? What's the point? (not wanting to be annoying, I'm really wondering...)

QuoteOriginally posted by Fl_Gulfer Quote
I think the Video option is a big waste, now days everyone's phone will do that. Or you can get a cheap P&S to do that, If I spend over a grand for a camera I expect it to take awesome photo's not movies. I have a 700$ movie camera I never used except to film everything I own for Insurance incase a hurricane hits our house. All I care to see is some more quality lenses.
I don't care what you care, don't need to flame me 'cause I'm interested in video!

For anyone who's into film making, a DSLR with a movie mode is a dream come true - high ISO, shallow DOF (which you won't get on any digital movie camera below something like U$10.000 or much more, even cameras at this price have 1/3" chips and limited aperture, like f1.8 to f2.4). I mean, if you think a cheap P&S movie is an alternative, you shouldn't even be talking about it. I'm not complaining about your lenses

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QuoteOriginally posted by cpopham Quote
This is the problem with international prices - you forgot to subtract the 17.5% VAT from the price. Not only that, but even once you take into account tax, Pentax gear tends to be considerably more expensive in the UK than the US.

Besides, I understand the RRP of the 50-135 is about £830. Unless you want a 60-250 from launch day I wouldn't get stressed about the price...
Good point


QuoteOriginally posted by ryan s Quote
Well, I have 3 film bodies and one digital SLR. Granted I do take more pictures with the digital, but I did buy into Pentax so I could have one set of lenses. And the DAs don't create the full image circle.
I wonder...how much more/less expensive it is to put the ring on?
I use the lenses I get for my K10, also on my Z-1P. No problem regarding aperture ring, since I can use the front and rear wheel on my Z-1p. And many of the new zooms can work on film format, just from different focal lenghts.


Else it is also possible to buy the Zeiss or Voigtländer lenses in Pentax mount, they will have aperture ring. So plenty of LBA to go around.


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QuoteOriginally posted by ftpaddict Quote

Does this have an aperture ring? Didn't think so.

Does it work well on film cameras? Hell yes!
FA-J means no aperture ring. It works on film cameras that have the gear to do so. The lens will not work - except at about f/45 - on, for example, an ME, or even an LX. The cameras do not have the capability to control the aperture.

On the other hand, an FA lens, which does have an aperture ring, works just fine on an ME. We have several years of photos. No AF, of course, but it works just fine.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ricardobeat Quote
I don't care what you care, don't need to flame me 'cause I'm interested in video!
Where do you see a flame on my part, I wonder?

I just gave a personnal opinion, this is clearly stated IMO.

And you're right not to care about others opinion if this (the D90 videio capability) suits you, this seems obvious to me.
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i was real excited for the 60-250 but i'm so sad that it now extends when zooming i hate extending barrels

other than that, i'm excited to see what primes pentax has in store for us! i'd be pretty darn torn between having a pancake lineup and DA* fast primes, as i sure can't afford both lineups haha!
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I'm happy to hear the Pentax is putting out what it does best, great primes. I'd love to finally see a DA 85mm f/2 or a DA* 85mm f/1.4 (more the former if I consider my pocket).
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Was there confirmation on the extending zoom of the 60-250? I don't recall that from the thread about it that was started not too long ago, and I really thought that it was an internal zoom lens.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mk07138 Quote
Was there confirmation on the extending zoom of the 60-250? I don't recall that from the thread about it that was started not too long ago, and I really thought that it was an internal zoom lens.
No, Chris (tester & moderator) said it extends.


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Has anyone heard anything about the weight of the 60-250?

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