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**Clarkey** · 09-03-2008, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by Arpe

How can the prices be bad here when there's nothing on the shelves anyway? So we buy from B&H anyway?

Well, I thought I'd get mine from all of those parallel imports on trademe - NOT!

frank · 09-03-2008, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by ogl

Yes. We will see new primes. Not only DA*30 and DA15 limited.

I heard a 400/4 is on the way, and the source has been pretty reliable so far

Fl_Gulfer · 09-03-2008, 08:07 PM

If they charge more than a 1000.00 for the 60-250mm F4 they are living on another planet.
I know it takes awesome photo's, but no one in there right mind should pay that much for a telescoping F4 zoom lens, When you can get a F2.8 70-200 for 699.00.
I hear it will be out in a few weeks but Pentax will only hurt themselves charging that much.

soccerjoe5 · 09-03-2008, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by Fl_Gulfer

If they charge more than a 1000.00 for the 60-250mm F4 they are living on another planet.
I know it takes awesome photo's, but no one in there right mind should pay that much for a telescoping F4 zoom lens, When you can get a F2.8 70-200 for 699.00.
I hear it will be out in a few weeks but Pentax will only hurt themselves charging that much.

I'd pay about $900 for the 60-250/4 if its barrel didn't extend. I hate telephotos with extending barrels

Ishpuini · 09-04-2008, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by frank

I heard a 400/4 is on the way, and the source has been pretty reliable so far

If that's true, then I for one will be very happy not to have replaced my FA*300/4.5 by the DA*300/4. A DA*400/4 would better suit my needs for long glass so the replacement funds can be spent on that one instead. I suppose it will be quite a bit more expensive though...

Wim

Asahiflex · 09-04-2008, 12:59 AM

Originally posted by Ishpuini

If that's true, then I for one will be very happy not to have replaced my FA*300/4.5 by the DA*300/4. A DA*400/4 would better suit my needs for long glass so the replacement funds can be spent on that one instead. I suppose it will be quite a bit more expensive though...

Wim

Great, but I suspect that the 400/4 will be quite a hunk of glass... The FA* was f/5.6 so the DA* will be a lot bigger I think.

However, I have still no reason to replace my Sigma 500/4.5 APO EX

**barondla** · 09-04-2008, 05:40 AM

A 400 4 is something I am very interested in! Hope it is announced soon. Save me from buying DA300.
thanks
barondla

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kent vinyard · 09-04-2008, 12:24 PM

For those that want a 400mm f4.0 lens I would suggest that you save up at least $5,000--Take a peek at the price of canons 400 f4.0 at BH. I would love to have such a lens but the price will be huge. Now a 400 f4.5 or f5.6 would be more in the line of what most people would spend.

ewalk · 09-04-2008, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by soccerjoe5

other than that, i'm excited to see what primes pentax has in store for us! i'd be pretty darn torn between having a pancake lineup and DA* fast primes, as i sure can't afford both lineups haha!

Tell me about it.

My dream line-up is 15mm Limited, 30/31mm*, 55mm*, 70mm Limited + 35mm Macro Limited. Although maybe if we're lucky, the 15mm won't be a pancake design, just like the 35mm Macro wasn't!

Haha that's a lot of $$$ for roughly the same coverage as the 18-55mm kit lens.

fejker · 09-04-2008, 01:47 PM

It certainly is but those primes beat the zoom any day.

I'm just getting my first Limited in a week or so and have a couple of primes (50mm f/1.4 and 100mm f/2.8) and a couple of zooms (12-24mm f/4 and 50-135mm f/2.8). I'd love it if Pentax made a sharp ultra-wide angle lens (around 10mm or so) or a nice fish (10-17mm doesn't cut it for me, was thinking about ordering a Peleng from Russia or getting the Sigma 10-20mm but got the 12-24mm instead).

**Pål Jensen** · 09-05-2008, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by kent vinyard

For those that want a 400mm f4.0 lens I would suggest that you save up at least $5,000--Take a peek at the price of canons 400 f4.0 at BH. I would love to have such a lens but the price will be huge. .

You cannot compare it to a Canon 400/4 lens. The Canon is a DO (and IS) lens and is consequently very expensive. A Pentax 400/4 will be significantly cheaper than a 300/2.8 lens. As most users of the latter uses it with a 1,4X conmverter glued on, a 400/4 makes a lot of sense....
..and if the speed is F:4, as oposed to of F:5.6 or F:4.5, it will retain AF when using a 1,4X converter; mandatory in todays ultra telephoto market.
If Pentax do indeed make such a lens, I promise not to switch to Nikon...

kent vinyard · 09-05-2008, 05:49 PM

Pal,
I certainly hope that you are right about the pricing. I would try to find a way to buy that lens.
I don't think you dare switch to nikon because none of their cameras can top the images from the Pentax 645 that you are using.

RaduA · 09-06-2008, 05:14 AM

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

You cannot compare it to a Canon 400/4 lens. The Canon is a DO (and IS) lens and is consequently very expensive. A Pentax 400/4 will be significantly cheaper than a 300/2.8 lens. As most users of the latter uses it with a 1,4X conmverter glued on, a 400/4 makes a lot of sense....
..and if the speed is F:4, as oposed to of F:5.6 or F:4.5, it will retain AF when using a 1,4X converter; mandatory in todays ultra telephoto market.
If Pentax do indeed make such a lens, I promise not to switch to Nikon...

Oh, my God ...

I never thought there is a chance to get rid of your obsessions and very few ideas and now I can see the light. May Pentax announce all the lenses you want and a FF body the next day you switch to Nikon

!
And please, stay there

!

Radu

Jonson PL · 09-08-2008, 07:01 AM

Originally posted by kent vinyard

Pal,
I certainly hope that you are right about the pricing. I would try to find a way to buy that lens.
I don't think you dare switch to nikon because none of their cameras can top the images from the Pentax 645 that you are using.

The Canon 400 DO lens is a very special item, the same price as Canon 500/4. It is extremely light-weight, extremely expensive, but great IQ. Beyond range of most consumers.
I hope for a Pentax DA* 400/4. Or maybe someday a 500/4.5.

I hope Pål stays in Pentax camp, he has a lot of knowledge and I generally like reading his posts.

**Pål Jensen** · 09-08-2008, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by Jonson PL

The Canon 400 DO lens is a very special item, the same price as Canon 500/4. It is extremely light-weight, extremely expensive, but great IQ. .

Image quality of the Canon lens is debatable. It is very prone to flare. Sample to sample variations are large and many have given up on the lens after 3-4 bad samples.

09-05-2008, 12:04 PM	#71
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by kent vinyard For those that want a 400mm f4.0 lens I would suggest that you save up at least $5,000--Take a peek at the price of canons 400 f4.0 at BH. I would love to have such a lens but the price will be huge. . You cannot compare it to a Canon 400/4 lens. The Canon is a DO (and IS) lens and is consequently very expensive. A Pentax 400/4 will be significantly cheaper than a 300/2.8 lens. As most users of the latter uses it with a 1,4X conmverter glued on, a 400/4 makes a lot of sense.... ..and if the speed is F:4, as oposed to of F:5.6 or F:4.5, it will retain AF when using a 1,4X converter; mandatory in todays ultra telephoto market. If Pentax do indeed make such a lens, I promise not to switch to Nikon... Last edited by Pål Jensen; 09-05-2008 at 04:16 PM.

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09-03-2008, 06:58 PM	#61
Clarkey Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,456	Originally posted by Arpe How can the prices be bad here when there's nothing on the shelves anyway? So we buy from B&H anyway? Well, I thought I'd get mine from all of those parallel imports on trademe - NOT!

09-03-2008, 07:31 PM	#62
frank Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,202	Originally posted by ogl Yes. We will see new primes. Not only DA*30 and DA15 limited. I heard a 400/4 is on the way, and the source has been pretty reliable so far

09-03-2008, 08:07 PM	#63
Fl_Gulfer Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida Gulfer Photos: Albums Posts: 3,054	If they charge more than a 1000.00 for the 60-250mm F4 they are living on another planet. I know it takes awesome photo's, but no one in there right mind should pay that much for a telescoping F4 zoom lens, When you can get a F2.8 70-200 for 699.00. I hear it will be out in a few weeks but Pentax will only hurt themselves charging that much.

09-03-2008, 10:39 PM	#64
soccerjoe5 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Philippines Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,343	Originally posted by Fl_Gulfer If they charge more than a 1000.00 for the 60-250mm F4 they are living on another planet. I know it takes awesome photo's, but no one in there right mind should pay that much for a telescoping F4 zoom lens, When you can get a F2.8 70-200 for 699.00. I hear it will be out in a few weeks but Pentax will only hurt themselves charging that much. I'd pay about $900 for the 60-250/4 if its barrel didn't extend. I hate telephotos with extending barrels

09-04-2008, 12:13 AM	#65
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	Originally posted by frank I heard a 400/4 is on the way, and the source has been pretty reliable so far If that's true, then I for one will be very happy not to have replaced my FA300/4.5 by the DA300/4. A DA*400/4 would better suit my needs for long glass so the replacement funds can be spent on that one instead. I suppose it will be quite a bit more expensive though... Wim

09-04-2008, 12:59 AM	#66
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by Ishpuini If that's true, then I for one will be very happy not to have replaced my FA300/4.5 by the DA300/4. A DA400/4 would better suit my needs for long glass so the replacement funds can be spent on that one instead. I suppose it will be quite a bit more expensive though... Wim Great, but I suspect that the 400/4 will be quite a hunk of glass... The FA was f/5.6 so the DA* will be a lot bigger I think. However, I have still no reason to replace my Sigma 500/4.5 APO EX

09-04-2008, 05:40 AM	#67
barondla Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: midwest, United States Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,714	A 400 4 is something I am very interested in! Hope it is announced soon. Save me from buying DA300. thanks barondla View POINT & SHOOT CONTEST #10 WINNERS in P&S forum. Enter #11. Any brand camera, any subject. Enter now.

09-04-2008, 12:24 PM	#68
kent vinyard Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Norman, Oklahoma USA Posts: 348	For those that want a 400mm f4.0 lens I would suggest that you save up at least $5,000--Take a peek at the price of canons 400 f4.0 at BH. I would love to have such a lens but the price will be huge. Now a 400 f4.5 or f5.6 would be more in the line of what most people would spend.

09-04-2008, 12:54 PM	#69
ewalk Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 316	Originally posted by soccerjoe5 other than that, i'm excited to see what primes pentax has in store for us! i'd be pretty darn torn between having a pancake lineup and DA* fast primes, as i sure can't afford both lineups haha! Tell me about it. My dream line-up is 15mm Limited, 30/31mm, 55mm, 70mm Limited + 35mm Macro Limited. Although maybe if we're lucky, the 15mm won't be a pancake design, just like the 35mm Macro wasn't! Haha that's a lot of $$$ for roughly the same coverage as the 18-55mm kit lens.

09-04-2008, 01:47 PM	#70
fejker Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Slovenia Photos: Gallery Posts: 258	It certainly is but those primes beat the zoom any day. I'm just getting my first Limited in a week or so and have a couple of primes (50mm f/1.4 and 100mm f/2.8) and a couple of zooms (12-24mm f/4 and 50-135mm f/2.8). I'd love it if Pentax made a sharp ultra-wide angle lens (around 10mm or so) or a nice fish (10-17mm doesn't cut it for me, was thinking about ordering a Peleng from Russia or getting the Sigma 10-20mm but got the 12-24mm instead).

09-05-2008, 05:49 PM	#72
kent vinyard Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Norman, Oklahoma USA Posts: 348	Pal, I certainly hope that you are right about the pricing. I would try to find a way to buy that lens. I don't think you dare switch to nikon because none of their cameras can top the images from the Pentax 645 that you are using.

09-06-2008, 05:14 AM	#73
RaduA Guest	Originally posted by Pål Jensen You cannot compare it to a Canon 400/4 lens. The Canon is a DO (and IS) lens and is consequently very expensive. A Pentax 400/4 will be significantly cheaper than a 300/2.8 lens. As most users of the latter uses it with a 1,4X conmverter glued on, a 400/4 makes a lot of sense.... ..and if the speed is F:4, as oposed to of F:5.6 or F:4.5, it will retain AF when using a 1,4X converter; mandatory in todays ultra telephoto market. If Pentax do indeed make such a lens, I promise not to switch to Nikon... Oh, my God ... I never thought there is a chance to get rid of your obsessions and very few ideas and now I can see the light. May Pentax announce all the lenses you want and a FF body the next day you switch to Nikon ! And please, stay there ! Radu

09-08-2008, 07:01 AM	#74
Jonson PL Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Copenhagen Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,842	Originally posted by kent vinyard Pal, I certainly hope that you are right about the pricing. I would try to find a way to buy that lens. I don't think you dare switch to nikon because none of their cameras can top the images from the Pentax 645 that you are using. The Canon 400 DO lens is a very special item, the same price as Canon 500/4. It is extremely light-weight, extremely expensive, but great IQ. Beyond range of most consumers. I hope for a Pentax DA* 400/4. Or maybe someday a 500/4.5. I hope Pål stays in Pentax camp, he has a lot of knowledge and I generally like reading his posts.

09-08-2008, 08:08 AM	#75
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by Jonson PL The Canon 400 DO lens is a very special item, the same price as Canon 500/4. It is extremely light-weight, extremely expensive, but great IQ. . Image quality of the Canon lens is debatable. It is very prone to flare. Sample to sample variations are large and many have given up on the lens after 3-4 bad samples.