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06-18-2018, 07:54 AM   #106
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Next Ricoh GR is not fullframe.
But more than an pimped ll
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There you have it folks !
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QuoteOriginally posted by asahi man Quote
Next Ricoh GR is not fullframe.
But more than an pimped ll
Best regards
BTW nice review of the D FA* 50?
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BTW nice review of the D FA* 50?
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QuoteOriginally posted by asahi man Quote
Next Ricoh GR is not fullframe.
But more than an pimped ll
Best regards
when?
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I used to have a Canon point and shoot film camera that had a lens with two focal lengths, but not a zoom. I think it was 35mm and 70mm. I don’t suppose it was the greatest camera in terms of image quality, but it was a versatile enough travel companion for a student.

I’ve never seen a digital camera with such a design. I wonder if it would have any advantage, in terms of keeping the lens compact or sharpness compared to a zoom. I think a camera that did 28mm and 40mm (equivalent FOV) would keep a lot of people happy.

I’m just thinking aloud, and have no idea if it’s feasible, but I’d be very interested in a GR like this if they made it.
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QuoteOriginally posted by asahi man Quote
Next Ricoh GR is not fullframe.
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Zoom?
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I used to have a Canon point and shoot film camera that had a lens with two focal lengths, but not a zoom. I think it was 35mm and 70mm. I don’t suppose it was the greatest camera in terms of image quality, but it was a versatile enough travel companion for a student.

I’ve never seen a digital camera with such a design. I wonder if it would have any advantage, in terms of keeping the lens compact or sharpness compared to a zoom. I think a camera that did 28mm and 40mm (equivalent FOV) would keep a lot of people happy.

I’m just thinking aloud, and have no idea if it’s feasible, but I’d be very interested in a GR like this if they made it.
It appears to me the Xiaomi Mi A1 camera(s) work in this way - one is wide and the other is tele. You can select which one is the primary and presumably the other one is used for the out-of-focus, enhanced resolution/saturation etc effects.
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QuoteOriginally posted by wrbrim Quote
It appears to me the Xiaomi Mi A1 camera(s) work in this way - one is wide and the other is tele. You can select which one is the primary and presumably the other one is used for the out-of-focus, enhanced resolution/saturation etc effects.
Any many other phones nowadays, including iPhones and Samsungs.

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I‘m looking for a ML FF camera this year. The lenses I‘d mount will be a Contax-G set and Takumars. If it will be a Ricoh or Pentax (with the same features like the K1), ... )
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QuoteOriginally posted by wrbrim Quote
It appears to me the Xiaomi Mi A1 camera(s) work in this way - one is wide and the other is tele. You can select which one is the primary and presumably the other one is used for the out-of-focus, enhanced resolution/saturation etc effects.
This isn't what I meant. I mean one lens that extends like a zoom to one of two focal lengths. That's what the Canon I was talking about did. It was called Canon Sure Shot Telemax and I'm not saying it was a great camera. I'm just saying it was versatile enough for a travel camera and wondering if there is any advantage in size or sharpness in this approach compared to a zoom. If the sharpness or size/aperture could be better than a zoom and as good as the GR's prime lens, there might be a point. Otherwise, I'll concede there's no point at all and a zoom would be better.

---------- Post added 06-20-18 at 11:35 PM ----------

This image is a survey Ricoh gave attendees to the GR 10th anniversary event in 2015. It's titled "Imagine a GR!"



The points they are asking are (top to bottom).

- Body size
- Sensor size
- Focal length (I think the rightmost option is "Dual focal length", hence my thoughts above)
- Lens aperture
- Megapixels
- Macro ability
- Image stabilisation type
- Toughness
- Viewfinder type
- LCD monitor

This is a long time ago now, but it does show some of the variables Ricoh has been considering for the GR. There have been some clues that the new GR might not be a straight follow on from the GR II, including Asahi Man's comment above and Takashi Arai's comment that it might be called something other than GR III. I'm quite excited to find out.
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Including price ?
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Dual (and triple) focal lenses are typical of Leica M.
They did this a number of times back then.
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QuoteOriginally posted by asahi man Quote
Next Ricoh GR is not fullframe.
But more than an pimped ll
So it'll obviously be a compact pocket sized medium format camera!
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