K-1 Mark II!

**clickclick** · 02-14-2018, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by DeadJohn

To everyone wishing for 42mp: Going from 36 to 42 is an imperceptibly tiny upgrade.

I think it's more than what the 6 MP actually does versus what it represents, or is perceived to represent. For me, that nudge that takes the "crop" part of the frame from the 16 to 18 range is something I'd like, but it's the implied aspect of newest tech e.g. Pentax is "keeping up", the implied AF improvements, the implied data transfer improvements and so on that is what that package represents and why it would stimulate a potential sale over the existing product or entice some of us to upgrade what is already a great camera. It's not just 6 MP, it's a whole lot more wrapped into it. I also would continue that the "let down" I think some are having (I am not one of them) over what was leaked is that it doesn't match the hoped for hype generated on the forums. It actually fits perfectly as a "-II" release - some nice enhancements, but nothing earth shaking, and yes, a whole new design with the most up to date sensor should get more than a "-II" notation, because that is big deal.

And we just need to sit tight another couple weeks before the curtain rises. Who says there isn't more at the show? And who says it's the only show of the year or the only time Pentax might release something? Still time to chill before jumping off bridges and tall buildings.

Last edited by clickclick; 02-15-2018 at 06:10 AM.

**Larrymc** · 02-14-2018, 09:15 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by MMVIII

I think this is ridiculous. You are aware that you are talking about "releases" in relation to an event that is going to be in some days and all the information you have are unsubstantiated rumours?
Give them a break, take a break, whatever.

I agree with that, the gnashing of teeth and renting of garments and the anguish all over rumors......its getting really tiring.

Larry

---------- Post added 02-14-18 at 10:20 PM ----------

Originally posted by clickclick

Still time to chill before jumping off bridges and tall buildings.

or setting their hair on fire.

Larry

surfar · 02-14-2018, 09:30 PM

Originally posted by clickclick

Still time to chill before jumping off bridges and tall buildings.

Yes, wait for the K-1 Super before you do that, its main feature is a cape!

ogl · 02-14-2018, 09:38 PM

Originally posted by DeadJohn

To everyone wishing for 42mp: Going from 36 to 42 is an imperceptibly tiny upgrade. K-1 sensor is 7360x4912. Sony 42mp is 7952 x 5304. You only gain 8% more pixels in each direction going from 36mp to 42mp.
.

The main thing is not only MP. 42 MP sensor is new sensor and better in all aspects, 36 MP is old. Any higher resolution is better, even 6 MP - it means 3 extra MP for APS-C mode.

ogl · 02-14-2018, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by clickclick

I think it's more than what the 6 MP actually does versus what it represents, or is perceived to represent. For me, that nudge that takes the "crop" part of the frame from the 16 to 18 range is something.

From 15 to 18

Zygonyx · 02-15-2018, 12:02 AM

Using K-1 in crop mode....
Is this serious ?

mee · 02-15-2018, 12:05 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by MadMathMind

I didn't expect a 42MP sensor. I didn't expect a ton of upgrade. But how about autofocus that works as well as cameras released in 2014? How about lenses that every other system has had for nearly a decade. I guess that is my problem. I expected anything. It seems around here, it is best to expect nothing.

MJKoski · 02-15-2018, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by ogl

The main thing is not only MP. 42 MP sensor is new sensor and better in all aspects, 36 MP is old.

No it is not. Far from better in long exposures. It requires VERY cold ambient temperature to give usable long exposures after 30 seconds. Best thing in that Sony 42MP chip is dual-gain feature which gives almost as good ISO640 exposure as ISO100.

ogl · 02-15-2018, 01:45 AM

Originally posted by MJKoski

No it is not. Far from better in long exposures. It requires VERY cold ambient temperature to give usable long exposures after 30 seconds. Best thing in that Sony 42MP chip is dual-gain feature which gives almost as good ISO640 exposure as ISO100.

Good joke. How many users use such exposures?

ogl · 02-15-2018, 01:48 AM

Originally posted by Zygonyx

Using K-1 in crop mode....
Is this serious ?

A lot of users do it. Seriously.

MJKoski · 02-15-2018, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by ogl

Good joke. How many users use such exposures?

Soon the only real use for DSLR is long exposures. Cellphones are enough for most things even today. Have you ever used a camera with 42MP Sony chip? R2 or R3? That 42MP is BSI technology demo, nothing else.

thibs · 02-15-2018, 02:25 AM - **2 Likes**

Funny, 5 posts in a row of ignored users.
Sign of bad (moaning) times

Sandy Hancock · 02-15-2018, 02:26 AM - **1 Like**

Yep. My list has grown substantially too.

I love it how some people would rather moan on the internet about how their chosen system has failed them than find solutions.

Endless entertainment.

Andrea K · 02-15-2018, 02:31 AM

Those who write about 42 megapixels do not own a k-1.

Put in your mind that this is only a firmware update masked as a new model, I think also that the "accelerator unit" is a marketing stuff.

thibs · 02-15-2018, 02:34 AM

Originally posted by Andrea K

Those who write about 42 megapixels do not own a k-1

Of course, but what's the fun then ?

02-14-2018, 09:15 PM - 3 Likes	#797
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,252	Originally posted by MMVIII I think this is ridiculous. You are aware that you are talking about "releases" in relation to an event that is going to be in some days and all the information you have are unsubstantiated rumours? Give them a break, take a break, whatever. I agree with that, the gnashing of teeth and renting of garments and the anguish all over rumors......its getting really tiring. Larry ---------- Post added 02-14-18 at 10:20 PM ---------- Originally posted by clickclick Still time to chill before jumping off bridges and tall buildings. or setting their hair on fire. Larry Last edited by Larrymc; 02-14-2018 at 09:21 PM.

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02-14-2018, 08:24 PM	#796
clickclick Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,903	Originally posted by DeadJohn To everyone wishing for 42mp: Going from 36 to 42 is an imperceptibly tiny upgrade. I think it's more than what the 6 MP actually does versus what it represents, or is perceived to represent. For me, that nudge that takes the "crop" part of the frame from the 16 to 18 range is something I'd like, but it's the implied aspect of newest tech e.g. Pentax is "keeping up", the implied AF improvements, the implied data transfer improvements and so on that is what that package represents and why it would stimulate a potential sale over the existing product or entice some of us to upgrade what is already a great camera. It's not just 6 MP, it's a whole lot more wrapped into it. I also would continue that the "let down" I think some are having (I am not one of them) over what was leaked is that it doesn't match the hoped for hype generated on the forums. It actually fits perfectly as a "-II" release - some nice enhancements, but nothing earth shaking, and yes, a whole new design with the most up to date sensor should get more than a "-II" notation, because that is big deal. And we just need to sit tight another couple weeks before the curtain rises. Who says there isn't more at the show? And who says it's the only show of the year or the only time Pentax might release something? Still time to chill before jumping off bridges and tall buildings. Last edited by clickclick; 02-15-2018 at 06:10 AM.

02-14-2018, 09:30 PM	#798
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,143	Originally posted by clickclick Still time to chill before jumping off bridges and tall buildings. Yes, wait for the K-1 Super before you do that, its main feature is a cape!

02-14-2018, 09:38 PM	#799
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by DeadJohn To everyone wishing for 42mp: Going from 36 to 42 is an imperceptibly tiny upgrade. K-1 sensor is 7360x4912. Sony 42mp is 7952 x 5304. You only gain 8% more pixels in each direction going from 36mp to 42mp. . The main thing is not only MP. 42 MP sensor is new sensor and better in all aspects, 36 MP is old. Any higher resolution is better, even 6 MP - it means 3 extra MP for APS-C mode.

02-14-2018, 09:39 PM	#800
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by clickclick I think it's more than what the 6 MP actually does versus what it represents, or is perceived to represent. For me, that nudge that takes the "crop" part of the frame from the 16 to 18 range is something. From 15 to 18

02-15-2018, 12:02 AM	#801
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Using K-1 in crop mode.... Is this serious ?

02-15-2018, 12:05 AM - 1 Like	#802
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by MadMathMind I didn't expect a 42MP sensor. I didn't expect a ton of upgrade. But how about autofocus that works as well as cameras released in 2014? How about lenses that every other system has had for nearly a decade. I guess that is my problem. I expected anything. It seems around here, it is best to expect nothing.

02-15-2018, 12:23 AM	#803
MJKoski Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,784	Originally posted by ogl The main thing is not only MP. 42 MP sensor is new sensor and better in all aspects, 36 MP is old. No it is not. Far from better in long exposures. It requires VERY cold ambient temperature to give usable long exposures after 30 seconds. Best thing in that Sony 42MP chip is dual-gain feature which gives almost as good ISO640 exposure as ISO100.

02-15-2018, 01:45 AM	#804
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by MJKoski No it is not. Far from better in long exposures. It requires VERY cold ambient temperature to give usable long exposures after 30 seconds. Best thing in that Sony 42MP chip is dual-gain feature which gives almost as good ISO640 exposure as ISO100. Good joke. How many users use such exposures?

02-15-2018, 01:48 AM	#805
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Zygonyx Using K-1 in crop mode.... Is this serious ? A lot of users do it. Seriously.

02-15-2018, 01:54 AM	#806
MJKoski Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,784	Originally posted by ogl Good joke. How many users use such exposures? Soon the only real use for DSLR is long exposures. Cellphones are enough for most things even today. Have you ever used a camera with 42MP Sony chip? R2 or R3? That 42MP is BSI technology demo, nothing else.

02-15-2018, 02:25 AM - 2 Likes	#807
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Funny, 5 posts in a row of ignored users. Sign of bad (moaning) times

02-15-2018, 02:26 AM - 1 Like	#808
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,275	Yep. My list has grown substantially too. I love it how some people would rather moan on the internet about how their chosen system has failed them than find solutions. Endless entertainment.

02-15-2018, 02:31 AM	#809
Andrea K Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 822	Those who write about 42 megapixels do not own a k-1. Put in your mind that this is only a firmware update masked as a new model, I think also that the "accelerator unit" is a marketing stuff.

02-15-2018, 02:34 AM	#810
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Andrea K Those who write about 42 megapixels do not own a k-1 Of course, but what's the fun then ?