Pentax K3ii officially discontinued

surfar · 02-08-2018, 12:30 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by mtgmansf

I have read/heard that Samsung is completely out of the consumer DSLR and compact camera market

As stated, Samsung left Dslr then did NX mirrorless which was never "officially" finished.The Indian plant that produced compact Samsungs closed about 3 years ago.

Originally posted by Kunzite

Amazing how there are such rumors about Samsung,

Theres a singular rumour, that surfaced on Mirrorless Rumours from an undisclosed source which MR was sceptical of.However,anything is possible even new Pentax bodies!

mtgmansf · 02-08-2018, 12:51 PM

It just occurred to my, that Samsung and Pentax were one partners. Maybe the merger with Ricoh made that untenable? Maybe it was already dead? However, it could have been good, with Samsung doing mirrorless and Pentax doing DSLRs, with both sharing ideas and designs on glass and Pentax then having state-of-the-art sensors for APS/dx, etc., Anyway, just a fantasy, thought, or dream, since they did cooperate together for a while...

Kunzite · 02-08-2018, 12:59 PM

The partnership with Samsung ended well before Ricoh; and it ended with Samsung planning and making a new mirrorless system behind Pentax' back.
Perhaps all Samsung wanted was a platform to test their sensors on.

---------- Post added 08-02-18 at 10:02 PM ----------

Originally posted by surfar

Theres a singular rumour, that surfaced on Mirrorless Rumours from an undisclosed source which MR was sceptical of.However,anything is possible even new Pentax bodies!

How about the rumor about Nikon buying Samsung's camera division? How about the denial while Samsung was exiting European markets?
The world is not a fair place if you're Pentax

mtgmansf · 02-08-2018, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

The partnership with Samsung ended well before Ricoh; and it ended with Samsung planning and making a new mirrorless system behind Pentax' back.
Perhaps all Samsung wanted was a platform to test their sensors on.

---------- Post added 08-02-18 at 10:02 PM ----------

How about the rumor about Nikon buying Samsung's camera division? How about the denial while Samsung was exiting European markets?
The world is not a fair place if you're Pentax

Interesting and all good to know... Sad to hear that Pentax got sharked by Samsung, because - at least to me - their alliance might have made sense into the future, with Samsung possibly being a better buyer than Ricoh - due to deep pockets, etc. However, maybe we should be happy, because maybe Samsung would have shut down Pentax at the same time as their mirrorless division, and we would have nothing...

Kunzite · 02-08-2018, 01:15 PM - **1 Like**

Sorry, but I disagree about Samsung being possibly a better owner than Ricoh: Samsung already gave up on cameras, and that was just after releasing an amazing camera (for a mirrorless). A very bad track record, if you ask me

We'll see what happens under Ricoh; my impression is that their Resurgent reforms are working out, and the pressure from shareholders should decrease.

surfar · 02-08-2018, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

How about the rumor about Nikon buying Samsung's camera division?

yes, just a rumour...Nikon were already planning FF mirrorless.The same as this latest sammy stuff is unlikely at this stage(like the full range of DFA primes)

---------- Post added 02-09-18 at 07:52 AM ----------

Originally posted by Kunzite

if you're Pentax

Originally posted by Kunzite

The world is not a fair place

Its sometimes hard to be yesterdays hero.

Chris Mak · 02-08-2018, 02:11 PM - **1 Like**

I kind of felt it coming, but a longstanding and reliable source on the other forum was kind enough to spill the beans. There is no K3 successor in sight. It's the KP and K1(mkII) Pentax shooters will have to make do with. For me, it is the end of the road with Pentax, and the beginning of saving up for the Nikon/Sigma combo.
Somehow, you know these things down inside: I went through it all with Olympus when they ditched 4/3. All those people clinging on to the E5 successor that never came...
Ricoh is clearly going in other directions, mainly FF directions that is...

Oh, and who said that the DA*11-18 did not fit well on the KP? Seems that it is made for that camera after all....

Chris

**c.a.m** · 02-08-2018, 02:36 PM

@ Chris Mak, I don't mean to suggest that you should not change brands or stick with Pentax. I'm also not trying to conjure false (or faint) hopes!

However, I think that the sparse comment in 'the other forum' could be interpreted in different ways. What does "sadly not in sight" and "not real" really mean? Is the K-3 II replacement not ready for a near-term announcement? Not ready for market in 2018? Not in sight, ever? And "not real" could be an obvious fact simply if the camera is not in its final stage of design and test, or not 'real' if it's not in production. It is hard to conclude what the truth is from the one-line cryptic comment in the other forum, I'd say.

- Craig

**Larrymc** · 02-08-2018, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by Chris Mak

I kind of felt it coming, but a longstanding and reliable source on the other forum was kind enough to spill the beans. There is no K3 successor in sight. It's the KP and K1(mkII) Pentax shooters will have to make do with. For me, it is the end of the road with Pentax, and the beginning of saving up for the Nikon/Sigma combo.
Somehow, you know these things down inside: I went through it all with Olympus when they ditched 4/3. All those people clinging on to the E5 successor that never came...
Ricoh is clearly going in other directions, mainly FF directions that is...

Oh, and who said that the DA*11-18 did not fit well on the KP? Seems that it is made for that camera after all....

Chris

Chris don't be timid......why not tell the name of "The Other Forum" so others can be as informed as you seem to be! I think I'm going to wait for the official news from Ricoh rather than from a post in another forum speculation discussion.

Larry

**Pål Jensen** · 02-08-2018, 02:47 PM

A K-3 replacement will probably be released along with the 11-18mm...

---------- Post added 02-08-18 at 10:58 PM ----------

Originally posted by c.a.m

@ Chris Mak, I don't mean to suggest that you should not change brands or stick with Pentax. I'm also not trying to conjure false (or faint) hopes!

However, I think that the sparse comment in 'the other forum' could be interpreted in different ways. What does "sadly not in sight" and "not real" really mean? Is the K-3 II replacement not ready for a near-term announcement? Not ready for market in 2018? Not in sight, ever? And "not real" could be an obvious fact simply if the camera is not in its final stage of design and test, or not 'real' if it's not in production. It is hard to conclude what the truth is from the one-line cryptic comment in the other forum, I'd say.

- Craig

It probably means that the distributors have got no message about a K-3 replacement, but does have info about a new K-1 (and the 50mm lens to go with it and maybe other lenses as well). This, of course do not mean that there wont be a K-3 replacement.

The Squirrel Mafia · 02-08-2018, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by Larrymc

Chris don't be timid......why not tell the name of "The Other Forum" so others can be as informed as you seem to be! I think I'm going to wait for the official news from Ricoh rather than from a post in another forum speculation discussion.

Larry

K1 mk ii vs K3 mk iii: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

^ That looks to be the discussion in question. Funny thing is that there are 2 people in the know. One of them says no APS-C flagship coming & the other one says that the KP is not going to be the APS-C flagship. Hmmm.........

**jpzk** · 02-08-2018, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia

K1 mk ii vs K3 mk iii: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

^ That looks to be the discussion in question. Funny thing is that there are 2 people in the know. One of them says no APS-C flagship coming & the other one says that the KP is not going to be the APS-C flagship. Hmmm.........

Hence, no one has a clue of what's in store.
Let's be calm and wait for something OFFICIAL ...

Kunzite · 02-08-2018, 03:09 PM

We'll see about that - information should be available in a few weeks/months.

Chris Mak · 02-08-2018, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia

K1 mk ii vs K3 mk iii: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

^ That looks to be the discussion in question. Funny thing is that there are 2 people in the know. One of them says no APS-C flagship coming & the other one says that the KP is not going to be the APS-C flagship. Hmmm.........

Yes, funny is it not?
But in all honesty, the "other source" has always been sincere and very carefull with info. Even if the K1 new firmware was cancelled due to the new K1 camera coming.
He just gave confirmation that the KP is the highest APS-C camera for Pentax, and you know, as I said, this was my "instinct" all along.
I at least am grateful to him for clearing this up. I can now make plans.
And regarding the source here: no disrespect meant whatsoever, but I do not believe him on APS-C. Instinct I guess...
It's a bit sad, but as I said, I knew all along inside that the KP was it.

"Sorry, but K-3lll is sadly not in sight and not real"

"That was the old plan, correct...There was no higher development than the KP"...

How much clearer can you get it?

Of course, everyone is always free to wait for interviews better yet: try the KP!
Only spreading rumors after all you know....but what matters is: next "flagship" APS-C camera will be the KPmkII, and that will take some waiting yet.

Chris

**Pål Jensen** · 02-08-2018, 03:22 PM

I see that K-3II is gone from Norway too. The 645z has dropped significantly in price.

02-08-2018, 12:51 PM	#107
mtgmansf Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 321	Maybe they should have stuck together/kept their partnership up and running... It just occurred to my, that Samsung and Pentax were one partners. Maybe the merger with Ricoh made that untenable? Maybe it was already dead? However, it could have been good, with Samsung doing mirrorless and Pentax doing DSLRs, with both sharing ideas and designs on glass and Pentax then having state-of-the-art sensors for APS/dx, etc., Anyway, just a fantasy, thought, or dream, since they did cooperate together for a while...

02-08-2018, 02:11 PM - 1 Like	#112
Chris Mak Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 639	No K3mkIII coming, sadly I kind of felt it coming, but a longstanding and reliable source on the other forum was kind enough to spill the beans. There is no K3 successor in sight. It's the KP and K1(mkII) Pentax shooters will have to make do with. For me, it is the end of the road with Pentax, and the beginning of saving up for the Nikon/Sigma combo. Somehow, you know these things down inside: I went through it all with Olympus when they ditched 4/3. All those people clinging on to the E5 successor that never came... Ricoh is clearly going in other directions, mainly FF directions that is... Oh, and who said that the DA*11-18 did not fit well on the KP? Seems that it is made for that camera after all.... Chris

02-08-2018, 02:46 PM	#114
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by Chris Mak I kind of felt it coming, but a longstanding and reliable source on the other forum was kind enough to spill the beans. There is no K3 successor in sight. It's the KP and K1(mkII) Pentax shooters will have to make do with. For me, it is the end of the road with Pentax, and the beginning of saving up for the Nikon/Sigma combo. Somehow, you know these things down inside: I went through it all with Olympus when they ditched 4/3. All those people clinging on to the E5 successor that never came... Ricoh is clearly going in other directions, mainly FF directions that is... Oh, and who said that the DA11-18 did not fit well on the KP? Seems that it is made for that camera after all.... Chris Chris don't be timid......why not tell the name of "The Other Forum" so others can be as informed as you seem to be! I think I'm going to wait for the official news from Ricoh rather than from a post in another forum speculation discussion. Larry Last edited by Larrymc; 02-08-2018 at 02:57 PM.*

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02-08-2018, 12:30 PM - 1 Like	#106
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	Originally posted by mtgmansf I have read/heard that Samsung is completely out of the consumer DSLR and compact camera market As stated, Samsung left Dslr then did NX mirrorless which was never "officially" finished.The Indian plant that produced compact Samsungs closed about 3 years ago. Originally posted by Kunzite Amazing how there are such rumors about Samsung, Theres a singular rumour, that surfaced on Mirrorless Rumours from an undisclosed source which MR was sceptical of.However,anything is possible even new Pentax bodies!

02-08-2018, 12:59 PM	#108
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	The partnership with Samsung ended well before Ricoh; and it ended with Samsung planning and making a new mirrorless system behind Pentax' back. Perhaps all Samsung wanted was a platform to test their sensors on. ---------- Post added 08-02-18 at 10:02 PM ---------- Originally posted by surfar Theres a singular rumour, that surfaced on Mirrorless Rumours from an undisclosed source which MR was sceptical of.However,anything is possible even new Pentax bodies! How about the rumor about Nikon buying Samsung's camera division? How about the denial while Samsung was exiting European markets? The world is not a fair place if you're Pentax

02-08-2018, 01:11 PM	#109
mtgmansf Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 321	Originally posted by Kunzite The partnership with Samsung ended well before Ricoh; and it ended with Samsung planning and making a new mirrorless system behind Pentax' back. Perhaps all Samsung wanted was a platform to test their sensors on. ---------- Post added 08-02-18 at 10:02 PM ---------- How about the rumor about Nikon buying Samsung's camera division? How about the denial while Samsung was exiting European markets? The world is not a fair place if you're Pentax Interesting and all good to know... Sad to hear that Pentax got sharked by Samsung, because - at least to me - their alliance might have made sense into the future, with Samsung possibly being a better buyer than Ricoh - due to deep pockets, etc. However, maybe we should be happy, because maybe Samsung would have shut down Pentax at the same time as their mirrorless division, and we would have nothing...

02-08-2018, 01:15 PM - 1 Like	#110
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Sorry, but I disagree about Samsung being possibly a better owner than Ricoh: Samsung already gave up on cameras, and that was just after releasing an amazing camera (for a mirrorless). A very bad track record, if you ask me We'll see what happens under Ricoh; my impression is that their Resurgent reforms are working out, and the pressure from shareholders should decrease.

02-08-2018, 01:50 PM	#111
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	Originally posted by Kunzite How about the rumor about Nikon buying Samsung's camera division? yes, just a rumour...Nikon were already planning FF mirrorless.The same as this latest sammy stuff is unlikely at this stage(like the full range of DFA primes) ---------- Post added 02-09-18 at 07:52 AM ---------- Originally posted by Kunzite if you're Pentax Originally posted by Kunzite The world is not a fair place Its sometimes hard to be yesterdays hero.

02-08-2018, 02:36 PM	#113
c.a.m Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,189	@ Chris Mak, I don't mean to suggest that you should not change brands or stick with Pentax. I'm also not trying to conjure false (or faint) hopes! However, I think that the sparse comment in 'the other forum' could be interpreted in different ways. What does "sadly not in sight" and "not real" really mean? Is the K-3 II replacement not ready for a near-term announcement? Not ready for market in 2018? Not in sight, *ever*? And "not real" could be an obvious fact simply if the camera is not in its final stage of design and test, or not 'real' if it's not in production. It is hard to conclude what the truth is from the one-line cryptic comment in the other forum, I'd say. - Craig

02-08-2018, 02:47 PM	#115
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	A K-3 replacement will probably be released along with the 11-18mm... ---------- Post added 02-08-18 at 10:58 PM ---------- Originally posted by c.a.m @ Chris Mak, I don't mean to suggest that you should not change brands or stick with Pentax. I'm also not trying to conjure false (or faint) hopes! However, I think that the sparse comment in 'the other forum' could be interpreted in different ways. What does "sadly not in sight" and "not real" really mean? Is the K-3 II replacement not ready for a near-term announcement? Not ready for market in 2018? Not in sight, *ever*? And "not real" could be an obvious fact simply if the camera is not in its final stage of design and test, or not 'real' if it's not in production. It is hard to conclude what the truth is from the one-line cryptic comment in the other forum, I'd say. - Craig It probably means that the distributors have got no message about a K-3 replacement, but does have info about a new K-1 (and the 50mm lens to go with it and maybe other lenses as well). This, of course do not mean that there wont be a K-3 replacement.

02-08-2018, 03:03 PM	#116
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,054	Originally posted by Larrymc Chris don't be timid......why not tell the name of "The Other Forum" so others can be as informed as you seem to be! I think I'm going to wait for the official news from Ricoh rather than from a post in another forum speculation discussion. Larry K1 mk ii vs K3 mk iii: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review ^ That looks to be the discussion in question. Funny thing is that there are 2 people in the know. One of them says no APS-C flagship coming & the other one says that the KP is not going to be the APS-C flagship. Hmmm.........

02-08-2018, 03:08 PM	#117
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia K1 mk ii vs K3 mk iii: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review ^ That looks to be the discussion in question. Funny thing is that there are 2 people in the know. One of them says no APS-C flagship coming & the other one says that the KP is not going to be the APS-C flagship. Hmmm......... Hence, no one has a clue of what's in store. Let's be calm and wait for something OFFICIAL ...

02-08-2018, 03:09 PM	#118
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	We'll see about that - information should be available in a few weeks/months.

02-08-2018, 03:14 PM	#119
Chris Mak Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 639	Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia K1 mk ii vs K3 mk iii: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review ^ That looks to be the discussion in question. Funny thing is that there are 2 people in the know. One of them says no APS-C flagship coming & the other one says that the KP is not going to be the APS-C flagship. Hmmm......... Yes, funny is it not? But in all honesty, the "other source" has always been sincere and very carefull with info. Even if the K1 new firmware was cancelled due to the new K1 camera coming. He just gave confirmation that the KP is the highest APS-C camera for Pentax, and you know, as I said, this was my "instinct" all along. I at least am grateful to him for clearing this up. I can now make plans. And regarding the source here: no disrespect meant whatsoever, but I do not believe him on APS-C. Instinct I guess... It's a bit sad, but as I said, I knew all along inside that the KP was it. "Sorry, but K-3lll is sadly not in sight and not real" "That was the old plan, correct...There was no higher development than the KP"... How much clearer can you get it? Of course, everyone is always free to wait for interviews better yet: try the KP! Only spreading rumors after all you know....but what matters is: next "flagship" APS-C camera will be the KPmkII, and that will take some waiting yet. Chris

02-08-2018, 03:22 PM	#120
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	I see that K-3II is gone from Norway too. The 645z has dropped significantly in price.