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**Belnan** · 02-11-2018, 07:09 PM

I wonder how people would respond if it unfolded something like this.

Pentax announces
1) a new APSC camera slightly higher specified version of the K-P, maybe a slightly sexier K-5 but not a K-3 replacement per say.
2) A K-1 Mark II to be ready in the spring. Slightly improved with same body. What the K20D was to the K10D

Beyond this plans for a 645Z II and a High end APSC ofcourse only to say they are working on them.

**monochrome** · 02-11-2018, 07:35 PM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by Belnan

I wonder how people would respond if it unfolded something like this.

Pentax announces
1) a new APSC camera slightly higher specified version of the K-P, maybe a slightly sexier K-5 but not a K-3 replacement per say.
2) A K-1 Mark II to be ready in the spring. Slightly improved with same body. What the K20D was to the K10D

Beyond this plans for a 645Z II and a High end APSC ofcourse only to say they are working on them.

Absolutely everyone would be unhappy. So you’re probably close.

**Larrymc** · 02-11-2018, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by Belnan

I wonder how people would respond if it unfolded something like this.

Pentax announces
1) a new APSC camera slightly higher specified version of the K-P, maybe a slightly sexier K-5 but not a K-3 replacement per say.
2) A K-1 Mark II to be ready in the spring. Slightly improved with same body. What the K20D was to the K10D

Beyond this plans for a 645Z II and a High end APSC ofcourse only to say they are working on them.

A really huge Yawn

Larry

Wheatfield · 02-11-2018, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by normhead

My specific complaint is that Pentax announced the suspension of production of the K-3ii before announcing a new APS_c flagship. If you made that complaint and I said something against it then bad on me. If you didn't your a troll. I don't care one way or the other. I am under no obligation to remain consistent in my opinions as circumstances change.

It’s just nice to know who is allowed to be annoyed and who isn’t.
Carry on.

reh321 · 02-11-2018, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by clickclick

Only thing known for sure is that March promises to be a fun month.

CP+ is only something like 2-½ weeks away. If they're going to make a major move soon, wouldn't they make it in time to talk about it there?

robjmitchell · 02-11-2018, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by Belnan

I wonder how people would respond if it unfolded something like this.

Pentax announces
1) a new APSC camera slightly higher specified version of the K-P, maybe a slightly sexier K-5 but not a K-3 replacement per say.
2) A K-1 Mark II to be ready in the spring. Slightly improved with same body. What the K20D was to the K10D

Beyond this plans for a 645Z II and a High end APSC ofcourse only to say they are working on them.

I want them to be passing round k1iis with Dfa*50/1.4 at CP+!

ogl · 02-11-2018, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by robjmitchell

I want them to passing round k1iis with Dfa*50/1.4 at CP+!

s - means no AA filter (before). all cameras from Pentax have no AA filter now. K1II only

pinholecam · 02-11-2018, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by Belnan

I wonder how people would respond if it unfolded something like this.

Pentax announces
1) a new APSC camera slightly higher specified version of the K-P, maybe a slightly sexier K-5 but not a K-3 replacement per say.
2) A K-1 Mark II to be ready in the spring. Slightly improved with same body. What the K20D was to the K10D

Beyond this plans for a 645Z II and a High end APSC ofcourse only to say they are working on them.

I would think by the history of Pentax releases, that it will really be something like this.

K1 is less than 2yrs old and plenty of camera for me.
I'm not even utilizing it to its full potential.
So I can wait for the next thing if its not this year.

ogl · 02-12-2018, 12:08 AM

The main question - should we trust Asahi man ?

**BigMackCam** · 02-12-2018, 12:15 AM

Originally posted by normhead

My specific complaint is that Pentax announced the suspension of production of the K-3ii before announcing a new APS_c flagship. If you made that complaint and I said something against it then bad on me. If you didn't your a troll. I don't care one way or the other. I am under no obligation to remain consistent in my opinions as circumstances change.

Originally posted by Wheatfield

It’s just nice to know who is allowed to be annoyed and who isn’t.
Carry on.

C'mon gentlemen, this thread is going so well considering the contentious subject matter. Let's keep it friendly and not prod at each other, eh?

Thanks

robjmitchell · 02-12-2018, 01:41 AM

Originally posted by ogl

The main question - should we trust Asahi man ?

Well I trust Asahi beer, seems like a good association!

superdave · 02-12-2018, 01:59 AM - **1 Like**

I just want Pentax do not forget their users who bought their K10D,K20D,K-7,K-5,K-3 class camera for years. I don't care if they try fancy stuffs like K-P, K-S2, etc.. at the condition there is a "classic" and robust alternatives such as K-3III.

I am not interested at all in K-1 as it is too expensive for me, and I would prefer f4 FF lenses instead of f2.8 (for price and weight).

I am not interested in K-P as it has no GPS (which I love on my K-3II), a cheap battery, and it does fit well in hands even with largest grip.

Currently Pentax has nothing in catalog to replace my 2 years old K-3II... I am very disappointed.

I am planning to buy the new DA* 11-18mm, but I will only do it if Pentax show more interest in APS-C, by releasing an interesting new APS-C body, and by updating the roadmap with new APS-C lenses, in particular an updated version of the old DA* 16-50mm. After the 11-18mm, the roadmap will be empty, mean no future for APS-C ? :/

5r82 · 02-12-2018, 02:09 AM

Originally posted by Belnan

I wonder how people would respond if it unfolded something like this.

Pentax announces
1) a new APSC camera slightly higher specified version of the K-P, maybe a slightly sexier K-5 but not a K-3 replacement per say.
2) A K-1 Mark II to be ready in the spring. Slightly improved with same body. What the K20D was to the K10D

Beyond this plans for a 645Z II and a High end APSC ofcourse only to say they are working on them.

Pentax is dead, so dead

Kunzite · 02-12-2018, 02:19 AM - **1 Like**

@superdave:
I'm not sure they would put new APS-C lenses on the roadmap, if they're updates for existing lenses. They didn't for the 55-300 RE PLM...

superdave · 02-12-2018, 02:37 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

@superdave:
I'm not sure they would put new APS-C lenses on the roadmap, if they're updates for existing lenses. They didn't for the 55-300 RE PLM...

Yes you're right (except if range change) but at least they should communicate with their users. No information and an empty roadmap is not reassuring, and their trans-standard DA* (16-50) is very dated now... lot of CA, bad corner performance, and no HD coating.

02-11-2018, 09:33 PM	#126
robjmitchell Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne Aus Posts: 1,776	Originally posted by Belnan I wonder how people would respond if it unfolded something like this. Pentax announces 1) a new APSC camera slightly higher specified version of the K-P, maybe a slightly sexier K-5 but not a K-3 replacement per say. 2) A K-1 Mark II to be ready in the spring. Slightly improved with same body. What the K20D was to the K10D Beyond this plans for a 645Z II and a High end APSC ofcourse only to say they are working on them. I want them to be passing round k1iis with Dfa50/1.4 at CP+! Last edited by robjmitchell; 02-12-2018 at 01:39 AM.*

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02-11-2018, 07:09 PM	#121
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	I wonder how people would respond if it unfolded something like this. Pentax announces 1) a new APSC camera slightly higher specified version of the K-P, maybe a slightly sexier K-5 but not a K-3 replacement per say. 2) A K-1 Mark II to be ready in the spring. Slightly improved with same body. What the K20D was to the K10D Beyond this plans for a 645Z II and a High end APSC ofcourse only to say they are working on them.

02-11-2018, 07:35 PM - 4 Likes	#122
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Belnan I wonder how people would respond if it unfolded something like this. Pentax announces 1) a new APSC camera slightly higher specified version of the K-P, maybe a slightly sexier K-5 but not a K-3 replacement per say. 2) A K-1 Mark II to be ready in the spring. Slightly improved with same body. What the K20D was to the K10D Beyond this plans for a 645Z II and a High end APSC ofcourse only to say they are working on them. Absolutely everyone would be unhappy. So you’re probably close.

02-11-2018, 08:10 PM	#123
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by Belnan I wonder how people would respond if it unfolded something like this. Pentax announces 1) a new APSC camera slightly higher specified version of the K-P, maybe a slightly sexier K-5 but not a K-3 replacement per say. 2) A K-1 Mark II to be ready in the spring. Slightly improved with same body. What the K20D was to the K10D Beyond this plans for a 645Z II and a High end APSC ofcourse only to say they are working on them. A really huge Yawn Larry

02-11-2018, 09:04 PM	#124
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by normhead My specific complaint is that Pentax announced the suspension of production of the K-3ii before announcing a new APS_c flagship. If you made that complaint and I said something against it then bad on me. If you didn't your a troll. I don't care one way or the other. I am under no obligation to remain consistent in my opinions as circumstances change. It’s just nice to know who is allowed to be annoyed and who isn’t. Carry on.

02-11-2018, 09:33 PM	#125
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,177	Originally posted by clickclick Only thing known for sure is that March promises to be a fun month. CP+ is only something like 2-½ weeks away. If they're going to make a major move soon, wouldn't they make it in time to talk about it there?

02-11-2018, 10:35 PM	#127
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by robjmitchell I want them to passing round k1iis with Dfa*50/1.4 at CP+! s - means no AA filter (before). all cameras from Pentax have no AA filter now. K1II only

02-11-2018, 11:09 PM	#128
pinholecam Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,706	Originally posted by Belnan I wonder how people would respond if it unfolded something like this. Pentax announces 1) a new APSC camera slightly higher specified version of the K-P, maybe a slightly sexier K-5 but not a K-3 replacement per say. 2) A K-1 Mark II to be ready in the spring. Slightly improved with same body. What the K20D was to the K10D Beyond this plans for a 645Z II and a High end APSC ofcourse only to say they are working on them. I would think by the history of Pentax releases, that it will really be something like this. K1 is less than 2yrs old and plenty of camera for me. I'm not even utilizing it to its full potential. So I can wait for the next thing if its not this year.

02-12-2018, 12:08 AM	#129
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	The main question - should we trust Asahi man ?

02-12-2018, 12:15 AM	#130
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,670	Originally posted by normhead My specific complaint is that Pentax announced the suspension of production of the K-3ii before announcing a new APS_c flagship. If you made that complaint and I said something against it then bad on me. If you didn't your a troll. I don't care one way or the other. I am under no obligation to remain consistent in my opinions as circumstances change. Originally posted by Wheatfield It’s just nice to know who is allowed to be annoyed and who isn’t. Carry on. C'mon gentlemen, this thread is going so well considering the contentious subject matter. Let's keep it friendly and not prod at each other, eh? Thanks

02-12-2018, 01:41 AM	#131
robjmitchell Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne Aus Posts: 1,776	Originally posted by ogl The main question - should we trust Asahi man ? Well I trust Asahi beer, seems like a good association!

02-12-2018, 01:59 AM - 1 Like	#132
superdave Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 228	I just want Pentax do not forget their users who bought their K10D,K20D,K-7,K-5,K-3 class camera for years. I don't care if they try fancy stuffs like K-P, K-S2, etc.. at the condition there is a "classic" and robust alternatives such as K-3III. I am not interested at all in K-1 as it is too expensive for me, and I would prefer f4 FF lenses instead of f2.8 (for price and weight). I am not interested in K-P as it has no GPS (which I love on my K-3II), a cheap battery, and it does fit well in hands even with largest grip. Currently Pentax has nothing in catalog to replace my 2 years old K-3II... I am very disappointed. I am planning to buy the new DA* 11-18mm, but I will only do it if Pentax show more interest in APS-C, by releasing an interesting new APS-C body, and by updating the roadmap with new APS-C lenses, in particular an updated version of the old DA* 16-50mm. After the 11-18mm, the roadmap will be empty, mean no future for APS-C ? :/

02-12-2018, 02:09 AM	#133
5r82 Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2017 Photos: Gallery Posts: 462	Originally posted by Belnan I wonder how people would respond if it unfolded something like this. Pentax announces 1) a new APSC camera slightly higher specified version of the K-P, maybe a slightly sexier K-5 but not a K-3 replacement per say. 2) A K-1 Mark II to be ready in the spring. Slightly improved with same body. What the K20D was to the K10D Beyond this plans for a 645Z II and a High end APSC ofcourse only to say they are working on them. Pentax is dead, so dead

02-12-2018, 02:19 AM - 1 Like	#134
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	@superdave: I'm not sure they would put new APS-C lenses on the roadmap, if they're updates for existing lenses. They didn't for the 55-300 RE PLM...

02-12-2018, 02:37 AM	#135
superdave Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 228	Originally posted by Kunzite @superdave: I'm not sure they would put new APS-C lenses on the roadmap, if they're updates for existing lenses. They didn't for the 55-300 RE PLM... Yes you're right (except if range change) but at least they should communicate with their users. No information and an empty roadmap is not reassuring, and their trans-standard DA* (16-50) is very dated now... lot of CA, bad corner performance, and no HD coating.