From Asahi man

zmohie · 02-12-2018, 06:55 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

They have many eyes on me these days

Im not told exactly the same as him, but we have different sources. Something will happen soon anyway!

For the k mount?

Kenn100D · 02-12-2018, 07:02 AM - **1 Like**

Whatever it is.. i think the next flagship will have a videocentric function to compete with the others and of course best in class stills. If this both features are in the new camera, there would be a lot of converts.

aurele · 02-12-2018, 07:26 AM

Originally posted by biz-engineer

K3II renewal (higher frame rate, buffer) only needed for wildlife long lens kind of shots, for all other cases, the KP is very good.

shoot kids and sports and you really like the fact that you can have 6-7 FPS

Outis · 02-12-2018, 07:30 AM

Is asahi man actually a reliable source? I remember a few years back he was saying that the FA Limiteds were going to be discontinued... and they're still here...

zmohie · 02-12-2018, 07:34 AM

Originally posted by Outis

Is asahi man actually a reliable source? I remember a few years back he was saying that the FA Limiteds were going to be discontinued... and they're still here...

Yes he is.He was first to leaked the k3 and said k5 will be expensive than any dslr from Pentax. He also talk about Kp before its announcement.He said 2018 the year of primes.

ogl · 02-12-2018, 07:55 AM

Originally posted by zmohie

Yes he is.He was first to leaked the k3 and said k5 will be expensive than any dslr from Pentax. He also talk about Kp before its announcement.He said 2018 the year of primes.

Not too much....

ChristianRock · 02-12-2018, 08:22 AM - **1 Like**

I thought he had said 2017 was going to be the year of primes...

D1N0 · 02-12-2018, 08:25 AM

Yeah except they didn't come

normhead · 02-12-2018, 08:25 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ChristianRock

I thought he had said 2017 was going to be the year of primes...

I find it interesting that people would think he's not a reliable source of information. I don't consider him to be 100% accurate, but he's better than 99.99% of the posters on the forum.

You can say what you want about him, he's still better than you, unless maybe you're kenspo.

Reed · 02-12-2018, 08:32 AM

I'm just curious if maybe Ricoh feeds Asahiman's inside man with fake Intel to "trace the leaking end" in their structures

ChristianRock · 02-12-2018, 08:33 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by normhead

I find it interesting that people would think he's not a reliable source of information. I don't consider him to be 100% accurate, but he's better than 99.99% of the posters on the forum.

You can say what you want about him, he's still better than you, unless maybe you're kenspo.

Now that's a strawman if I ever saw one.

Please point me where I ever compared myself to him or to anyone else in this forum, for that matter.

Why don't you refute the fact that I posted, instead of attacking me personally? I don't know, maybe I should even report your post.

**pres589** · 02-12-2018, 08:33 AM

I'm all kinds of accurate.

I find the talk about "a K-5 III and not a K-3 III" kind of funny. Is there that much difference? I know they aren't identical in layout but they seem like small steps and not some massive change. K-3 to K-1 seems much more different than K-5 to K-3.

The KP is not appealing to me due to how much I would have to use the rear LCD to know the current camera setup. Nikon Df seems much better in this regard. Work to get that control layout with a bigger LCD onto the top plate seems like a much better direction. That issue, and the smaller battery, are key reasons why the KP never interested me. The size of the LCD on the top plate of the K-1 seems like a mistake to me as well but at least it's there.

Still no clear word from Ricoh as to which of my ideas of new primes they'll use first.

normhead · 02-12-2018, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by ChristianRock

Now that's a strawman if I ever saw one.

Please point me where I ever compared myself to him or to anyone else in this forum, for that matter.

Why don't you refute the fact that I posted, instead of attacking me personally? I don't know, maybe I should even report your post.

I wasn't thinking of you personally, I was thinking of the generic "you" but if you choose to take it personally so be it. I'm not going to get worked up about it.

If it makes you feel any better, Would include myself in that "you" as well.

Quote:

I'm just curious if maybe Ricoh feeds Asahiman's inside man with fake Intel to "trace the leaking end" in their structures

I'm sure there is debate about these kinds of things within Pentax all the time. My personal take is that Asahiman has access to one viewpoint within Pentax, but not always the one that prevails. He knows what one member of the team thinks, but that opinion doesn't always succeed in getting it's position adopted. He's been quite accurate 2 weeks before an announcement, often having access to the exact specs of new products, but not so accurate at longer term predictions. Maybe some insight into what they are thinking, but not so clear on how efficient they will be executing "the plan."

**monochrome** · 02-12-2018, 09:11 AM - **2 Likes**

asahiman strikes me as an insider at a preferred component supplier. IMHO this is the Pentax marketing strategy implementation. Why he’s been more open on that wretched hive of scum and villainy than here lately is a real mystery to me.

Chris Mak · 02-12-2018, 09:13 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by kenspo

They have many eyes on me these days

Im not told exactly the same as him, but we have different sources. Something will happen soon anyway!

Even you though, admit that you are 99% focussed on Full Frame, and that your exitement comes from there.
So I do not see a lot of contradiction, I believe you when you say that Pentax has not given up on APS-C.
I believe Asahiman when he says, that recent (last year) R&D have fully gone to FF, and much of coming R&D (coming year) will go to Medium format, and that Pentax at least at launch thought of the KP as a suiting flagship camera.
I also believe you when you say you have no idea when the next APS-C camera will be released, because it is far into the future.

In short, I see no contradiction between your info and that of Asahiman, none at all, even if from different sources.
In fact, I think two weeks prior to CP+, the picture is already pretty clear: exiting times for Pentax FF, hard times for Pentax APS-C.
Just my opinion though, only my opinion!

Chris

02-12-2018, 07:02 AM - 1 Like	#152
Kenn100D Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Paranaque City, Philippines Photos: Gallery Posts: 697	Whatever it is.. i think the next flagship will have a videocentric function to compete with the others and of course best in class stills. If this both features are in the new camera, there would be a lot of converts. Last edited by Kenn100D; 02-12-2018 at 07:06 AM. Reason: missing words

02-12-2018, 08:45 AM	#163
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by ChristianRock Now that's a strawman if I ever saw one. Please point me where I ever compared myself to him or to anyone else in this forum, for that matter. Why don't you refute the fact that I posted, instead of attacking me personally? I don't know, maybe I should even report your post. I wasn't thinking of you personally, I was thinking of the generic "you" but if you choose to take it personally so be it. I'm not going to get worked up about it. If it makes you feel any better, Would include myself in that "you" as well. Quote: I'm just curious if maybe Ricoh feeds Asahiman's inside man with fake Intel to "trace the leaking end" in their structures I'm sure there is debate about these kinds of things within Pentax all the time. My personal take is that Asahiman has access to one viewpoint within Pentax, but not always the one that prevails. He knows what one member of the team thinks, but that opinion doesn't always succeed in getting it's position adopted. He's been quite accurate 2 weeks before an announcement, often having access to the exact specs of new products, but not so accurate at longer term predictions. Maybe some insight into what they are thinking, but not so clear on how efficient they will be executing "the plan." Last edited by normhead; 02-12-2018 at 08:51 AM.

02-12-2018, 09:11 AM - 2 Likes	#164
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	asahiman strikes me as an insider at a preferred component supplier. IMHO this is the Pentax marketing strategy implementation. Why he’s been more open on that wretched hive of scum and villainy than here lately is a real mystery to me. Last edited by monochrome; 02-12-2018 at 01:37 PM.

02-12-2018, 09:13 AM - 1 Like	#165
Chris Mak Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 639	Originally posted by kenspo They have many eyes on me these days Im not told exactly the same as him, but we have different sources. Something will happen soon anyway! Even you though, admit that you are 99% focussed on Full Frame, and that your exitement comes from there. So I do not see a lot of contradiction, I believe you when you say that Pentax has not given up on APS-C. I believe Asahiman when he says, that recent (last year) R&D have fully gone to FF, and much of coming R&D (coming year) will go to Medium format, and that Pentax at least at launch thought of the KP as a suiting flagship camera. I also believe you when you say you have no idea when the next APS-C camera will be released, because it is far into the future. In short, I see no contradiction between your info and that of Asahiman, none at all, even if from different sources. In fact, I think two weeks prior to CP+, the picture is already pretty clear: exiting times for Pentax FF, hard times for Pentax APS-C. Just my opinion though, only my opinion! Chris Last edited by Chris Mak; 02-12-2018 at 09:19 AM.

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02-12-2018, 06:55 AM	#151
zmohie Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: egypt Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 435 Original Poster	Originally posted by kenspo They have many eyes on me these days Im not told exactly the same as him, but we have different sources. Something will happen soon anyway! For the k mount?

02-12-2018, 07:26 AM	#153
aurele Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Paris, France Photos: Albums Posts: 3,217	Originally posted by biz-engineer K3II renewal (higher frame rate, buffer) only needed for wildlife long lens kind of shots, for all other cases, the KP is very good. shoot kids and sports and you really like the fact that you can have 6-7 FPS

02-12-2018, 07:30 AM	#154
Outis Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Cambridge, MA Posts: 935	Is asahi man actually a reliable source? I remember a few years back he was saying that the FA Limiteds were going to be discontinued... and they're still here...

02-12-2018, 07:34 AM	#155
zmohie Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: egypt Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 435 Original Poster	Originally posted by Outis Is asahi man actually a reliable source? I remember a few years back he was saying that the FA Limiteds were going to be discontinued... and they're still here... Yes he is.He was first to leaked the k3 and said k5 will be expensive than any dslr from Pentax. He also talk about Kp before its announcement.He said 2018 the year of primes.

02-12-2018, 07:55 AM	#156
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by zmohie Yes he is.He was first to leaked the k3 and said k5 will be expensive than any dslr from Pentax. He also talk about Kp before its announcement.He said 2018 the year of primes. Not too much....

02-12-2018, 08:22 AM - 1 Like	#157
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,910	I thought he had said 2017 was going to be the year of primes...

02-12-2018, 08:25 AM	#158
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Yeah except they didn't come

02-12-2018, 08:25 AM - 1 Like	#159
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by ChristianRock I thought he had said 2017 was going to be the year of primes... I find it interesting that people would think he's not a reliable source of information. I don't consider him to be 100% accurate, but he's better than 99.99% of the posters on the forum. You can say what you want about him, he's still better than you, unless maybe you're kenspo.

02-12-2018, 08:32 AM	#160
Reed Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Warsaw Photos: Gallery Posts: 638	I'm just curious if maybe Ricoh feeds Asahiman's inside man with fake Intel to "trace the leaking end" in their structures

02-12-2018, 08:33 AM - 2 Likes	#161
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,910	Originally posted by normhead I find it interesting that people would think he's not a reliable source of information. I don't consider him to be 100% accurate, but he's better than 99.99% of the posters on the forum. You can say what you want about him, he's still better than you, unless maybe you're kenspo. Now that's a strawman if I ever saw one. Please point me where I ever compared myself to him or to anyone else in this forum, for that matter. Why don't you refute the fact that I posted, instead of attacking me personally? I don't know, maybe I should even report your post.

02-12-2018, 08:33 AM	#162
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,529	I'm all kinds of accurate. I find the talk about "a K-5 III and not a K-3 III" kind of funny. Is there that much difference? I know they aren't identical in layout but they seem like small steps and not some massive change. K-3 to K-1 seems much more different than K-5 to K-3. The KP is not appealing to me due to how much I would have to use the rear LCD to know the current camera setup. Nikon Df seems much better in this regard. Work to get that control layout with a bigger LCD onto the top plate seems like a much better direction. That issue, and the smaller battery, are key reasons why the KP never interested me. The size of the LCD on the top plate of the K-1 seems like a mistake to me as well but at least it's there. Still no clear word from Ricoh as to which of my ideas of new primes they'll use first.