Pentax K-1 Mark II DSLR camera detailed specifications leaked

1434 · 02-15-2018, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by MadMathMind

The image quality of the K-1 is quite good. That's not an issue, really. The product line, however, is. More than that, the message this sends is not one of confidence. It's been two years since the K-1 came out and we've gotten what for it? NOT ONE NEW FF LENS in that time. This update, to me, says "This is our product and our product line and it's not going to improve." Feels like the K-1 was a bone they threw to long-time Pentax users but they either don't have the interest or the resources to develop it into a product line that can remotely compete with the offerings from Canon and Nikon.

And I'm not even talking about having two hundred crazy lenses in weird focal lengths. A modern 35mm. A modern 50mm. A modern 85mm. We have none of those. The 24-70 is a rebadge. We've been waiting for two years for some of these products and gotten nothing.

A friend of mine had the 645Z and really loved the camera. The lack of third party support (i.e., his flash equipment which said it would work with HSS and just didn't despite his efforts) and a sense of "This is all I'm going to get" is what made him abandon it for Fuji. I may finally understand.

This right here.

I've been on the Pentax train for over 20 years. It is really starting to feel like this is my last stop.

Kunzite · 02-15-2018, 02:02 PM - **1 Like**

That right there, is ignoring the fact that we're expecting the D FA* 50mm f/1.4, and soon. While complaining about the lack of a modern 50mm.

Rico · 02-15-2018, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by 1434

This right here.

I've been on the Pentax train for over 20 years. It is really starting to feel like this is my last stop.

What MadMathMind said isn't true.

Since the release of the K-1 there has has been five new full frame DFA lenses.

The 15-30, the 24-70, the 28-105, the 70-200, and the 150-450.

MadMathMind · 02-15-2018, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

That right there, is ignoring the fact that we're expecting the D FA* 50mm f/1.4, and soon. While complaining about the lack of a modern 50mm.

Is it out yet? That's my point. Expecting. 2 years of expecting. Still don't have it.

Mistral75 · 02-15-2018, 03:11 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Rico

What MadMathMind said isn't true.

Since the release of the K-1 there has has been five new full frame DFA lenses.

The 15-30, the 24-70, the 28-105, the 70-200, and the 150-450.

Not exactly. Pentax K-1 was announced on February 17th, 2016. together with the 15-30mm and the 28-105mm. The three other lenses were announced before the K-1:

the 24-70 on September 24th, 2015
the 70-200 and the 150-450 on February 4th, 2015 (the 70-200 being then delayed by around one year).

MadMathMind · 02-15-2018, 03:12 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Rico

What MadMathMind said isn't true.

Since the release of the K-1 there has has been five new full frame DFA lenses.

The 15-30, the 24-70, the 28-105, the 70-200, and the 150-450.

Release dates, according to Amazon. These may be pre-sale dates but I know for sure the 150-450 was available in August 2015 because I played with one on my trip to B&H in that month.

150-450: February 2, 2015
24-70: September 24, 2015
15-30: February 17, 2016
28-105: February 17, 2016

K-1: early May 2016

The 70-200 I can't be sure of; it was supposed to come out in 2015 but it got delayed a few times. I think it actually was available for purchase before the K-1, however.

So, no, I'm not wrong. All of these lenses were either released at the same time as or before the K-1. Reading is tech.... "since the K-1 came out, we've gotten no new lenses."

Sandy Hancock · 02-15-2018, 03:32 PM - **3 Likes**

MMM, If you consider the FA31 and DA*55 to be terrible lenses I really think you should switch brands.

Life's too short.

Kunzite · 02-15-2018, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by MadMathMind

Is it out yet? That's my point. Expecting. 2 years of expecting. Still don't have it.

Now, now, let's be honest. You also wrote: "This is our product and our product line and it's not going to improve.".

mohb · 02-15-2018, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by 1434

I've been on the Pentax train for over 20 years. It is really starting to feel like this is my last stop.

That's a long time to realize that Pentax isn't the Canikon express,

awscreo · 02-15-2018, 03:51 PM - **1 Like**

Green is always greener on the other side

I see it again and again (and again) on photo forums, here on pf, and my previous mft forums.

reh321 · 02-15-2018, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by mohb

That's a long time to realize that Pentax isn't the Canikon express,

Especially since, counting the years, that meant buying into {from 'scratch'} Pentax's body-motor AF, and ignoring Canon's lovely EF system that drew me away from Pentax; if ever there was time to go elsewhere, that was the time!! - and this is not the time!

Danas_Anis · 02-15-2018, 04:12 PM

I sincerely hope that these rumored specs are a joke, a prank to make competing brands laugh before they get crushed by something huge and unexpected. If not, then Ricoh just have beaten Canon with the most unexciting and boring "new" camera release ever.
I kind of hoped Ricoh to be innovative company and bring out Pentax technologies from being old fart. Keeping my fingers crossed for these leaked specs to be all wrong except for the ISO part.

normhead · 02-15-2018, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by Rondec

For 100 dollars you aren't going to improvement in frame rate,

You never know. Someone somewhere who manufactures higher frame rate shutters looks for a new buyer at reduced prices to keep an old production line alive. I think a lot of the time, these things, like the 645z just fall into Pentax's lap and they just rub their hands together and take advantage.

surfar · 02-15-2018, 04:32 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Danas_Anis

Ricoh just have beaten Canon with the most unexciting and boring "new" camera release ever.

I think you will find that the update(thats what it is,not a new camera model) will take an excellent camera model to the superb level.The K-1 is already ahead of the rest for what it does well.

**BigMackCam** · 02-15-2018, 04:43 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Danas_Anis

I sincerely hope that these rumored specs are a joke, a prank to make competing brands laugh before they get crushed by something huge and unexpected. If not, then Ricoh just have beaten Canon with the most unexciting and boring "new" camera release ever.
I kind of hoped Ricoh to be innovative company and bring out Pentax technologies from being old fart. Keeping my fingers crossed for these leaked specs to be all wrong except for the ISO part.

Comparing the K-1 / K-1II update to the EOS 6D / 6DMkII makes no sense. The K-1 hasn't even been around for two years, and Pentax's "II" models are typically mid-term product refresh types. The EOS 6D was something like four years old by the time the MkII was released. So that's really comparing apples and oranges.

What you're hoping for is the K-2. I'd say you've rocked up at least a year early for that...

02-15-2018, 02:30 PM	#183
Rico Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,205	Originally posted by 1434 This right here. I've been on the Pentax train for over 20 years. It is really starting to feel like this is my last stop. What MadMathMind said isn't true. Since the release of the K-1 there has has been five new full frame DFA lenses. The 15-30, the 24-70, the 28-105, the 70-200, and the 150-450. Last edited by Rico; 02-15-2018 at 02:45 PM.

02-15-2018, 03:11 PM - 1 Like	#185
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by Rico What MadMathMind said isn't true. Since the release of the K-1 there has has been five new full frame DFA lenses. The 15-30, the 24-70, the 28-105, the 70-200, and the 150-450. Not exactly. Pentax K-1 was announced on February 17th, 2016. together with the 15-30mm and the 28-105mm. The three other lenses were announced before the K-1: the 24-70 on September 24th, 2015 the 70-200 and the 150-450 on February 4th, 2015 (the 70-200 being then delayed by around one year).

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02-15-2018, 01:56 PM	#181
1434 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Minneapolis, MN Photos: Albums Posts: 35	Originally posted by MadMathMind The image quality of the K-1 is quite good. That's not an issue, really. The product line, however, is. More than that, the message this sends is not one of confidence. It's been two years since the K-1 came out and we've gotten what for it? NOT ONE NEW FF LENS in that time. This update, to me, says "This is our product and our product line and it's not going to improve." Feels like the K-1 was a bone they threw to long-time Pentax users but they either don't have the interest or the resources to develop it into a product line that can remotely compete with the offerings from Canon and Nikon. And I'm not even talking about having two hundred crazy lenses in weird focal lengths. A modern 35mm. A modern 50mm. A modern 85mm. We have none of those. The 24-70 is a rebadge. We've been waiting for two years for some of these products and gotten nothing. A friend of mine had the 645Z and really loved the camera. The lack of third party support (i.e., his flash equipment which said it would work with HSS and just didn't despite his efforts) and a sense of "This is all I'm going to get" is what made him abandon it for Fuji. I may finally understand. This right here. I've been on the Pentax train for over 20 years. It is really starting to feel like this is my last stop.

02-15-2018, 02:02 PM - 1 Like	#182
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	That right there, is ignoring the fact that we're expecting the D FA* 50mm f/1.4, and soon. While complaining about the lack of a modern 50mm.

02-15-2018, 03:04 PM	#184
MadMathMind Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Houston, TX Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,717	Originally posted by Kunzite That right there, is ignoring the fact that we're expecting the D FA* 50mm f/1.4, and soon. While complaining about the lack of a modern 50mm. Is it out yet? That's my point. Expecting. 2 years of expecting. Still don't have it.

02-15-2018, 03:12 PM - 1 Like	#186
MadMathMind Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Houston, TX Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,717	Originally posted by Rico What MadMathMind said isn't true. Since the release of the K-1 there has has been five new full frame DFA lenses. The 15-30, the 24-70, the 28-105, the 70-200, and the 150-450. Release dates, according to Amazon. These may be pre-sale dates but I know for sure the 150-450 was available in August 2015 because I played with one on my trip to B&H in that month. 150-450: February 2, 2015 24-70: September 24, 2015 15-30: February 17, 2016 28-105: February 17, 2016 K-1: early May 2016 The 70-200 I can't be sure of; it was supposed to come out in 2015 but it got delayed a few times. I think it actually was available for purchase before the K-1, however. So, no, I'm not wrong. All of these lenses were either released at the same time as or before the K-1. Reading is tech.... "since the K-1 came out, we've gotten no new lenses."

02-15-2018, 03:32 PM - 3 Likes	#187
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,275	MMM, If you consider the FA31 and DA*55 to be terrible lenses I really think you should switch brands. Life's too short.

02-15-2018, 03:36 PM	#188
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by MadMathMind Is it out yet? That's my point. Expecting. 2 years of expecting. Still don't have it. Now, now, let's be honest. You also wrote: "This is our product and our product line and it's not going to improve.".

02-15-2018, 03:49 PM	#189
mohb Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,912	Originally posted by 1434 I've been on the Pentax train for over 20 years. It is really starting to feel like this is my last stop. That's a long time to realize that Pentax isn't the Canikon express,

02-15-2018, 03:51 PM - 1 Like	#190
awscreo Veteran Member Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,722	Green is always greener on the other side I see it again and again (and again) on photo forums, here on pf, and my previous mft forums.

02-15-2018, 04:03 PM	#191
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,185	Originally posted by mohb That's a long time to realize that Pentax isn't the Canikon express, Especially since, counting the years, that meant buying into {from 'scratch'} Pentax's body-motor AF, and ignoring Canon's lovely EF system that drew me away from Pentax; if ever there was time to go elsewhere, that was the time!! - and this is not the time!

02-15-2018, 04:12 PM	#192
Danas_Anis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 198	I sincerely hope that these rumored specs are a joke, a prank to make competing brands laugh before they get crushed by something huge and unexpected. If not, then Ricoh just have beaten Canon with the most unexciting and boring "new" camera release ever. I kind of hoped Ricoh to be innovative company and bring out Pentax technologies from being old fart. Keeping my fingers crossed for these leaked specs to be all wrong except for the ISO part.

02-15-2018, 04:12 PM	#193
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Rondec For 100 dollars you aren't going to improvement in frame rate, You never know. Someone somewhere who manufactures higher frame rate shutters looks for a new buyer at reduced prices to keep an old production line alive. I think a lot of the time, these things, like the 645z just fall into Pentax's lap and they just rub their hands together and take advantage.

02-15-2018, 04:32 PM - 1 Like	#194
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,145	Originally posted by Danas_Anis Ricoh just have beaten Canon with the most unexciting and boring "new" camera release ever. I think you will find that the update(thats what it is,not a new camera model) will take an excellent camera model to the superb level.The K-1 is already ahead of the rest for what it does well.

02-15-2018, 04:43 PM - 2 Likes	#195
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,695	Originally posted by Danas_Anis I sincerely hope that these rumored specs are a joke, a prank to make competing brands laugh before they get crushed by something huge and unexpected. If not, then Ricoh just have beaten Canon with the most unexciting and boring "new" camera release ever. I kind of hoped Ricoh to be innovative company and bring out Pentax technologies from being old fart. Keeping my fingers crossed for these leaked specs to be all wrong except for the ISO part. Comparing the K-1 / K-1II update to the EOS 6D / 6DMkII makes no sense. The K-1 hasn't even been around for two years, and Pentax's "II" models are typically mid-term product refresh types. The EOS 6D was something like four years old by the time the MkII was released. So that's really comparing apples and oranges. What you're hoping for is the K-2. I'd say you've rocked up at least a year early for that...