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02-26-2018, 10:00 PM - 5 Likes   #196
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Pentax will sell DIY kit which will include the logo, the board and a smart screwdriver.
As a typical guy, I use WD40 and a hammer to fix everything in life.

Upgrade main board? Challenge accepted, hold my beer!

02-27-2018, 03:47 AM   #197
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Agree on 36 to 42 if it is the same sensor generation. But a new sensor (maybe BSI) would be of interest and that might be 42mp. I don't care about the megapixels that much, 36 is just fine for me.
But even if the sensor is not available yet I would think they have a new FF body already slotted in the pipe to hold it's spot so to speak. Lots of engineering and thinking that needs done even before the sensor is determined. Though I believe they would be provided with specs and possibly engineering samples of sensors years before actual production.
I don't think the 42 megapixel sensor is that much better with regard to image quality. I think the big reasons to go for that sensor are for faster frame rates and 4K video (neither of which Pentax seems interested in at the moment).

Pentax is eventually going to need to move off of the Milbeaut processor they've been using as I think that is probably the bottle neck in the system right now.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Rondec Quote
I don't think the 42 megapixel sensor is that much better with regard to image quality.
Probably not. I really meant 'a new generation of sensors" not anything that is being currently used. Though I could have been clearer and mentioning the BSI sensor implied I meant the current one. 36 or 42 in the same sensor technology family has little difference.
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As a typical guy, I use WD40 and a hammer to fix everything in life.

Upgrade main board? Challenge accepted, hold my beer!
Screw the screwdriver, just use duct tape, after all "if women can't find you handsome at least they can find you handy" Red Green

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Screw the screwdriver, just use duct tape, after all "if women can't find you handsome at least they can find you handy" Red Green
I like your way of thinking, KA. We should flip houses together. Would be interesting to see exactly how many building code violations we could rack up in twelve weeks.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Rondec Quote
I don't think the 42 megapixel sensor is that much better with regard to image quality. I think the big reasons to go for that sensor are for faster frame rates and 4K video (neither of which Pentax seems interested in at the moment).

Pentax is eventually going to need to move off of the Milbeaut processor they've been using as I think that is probably the bottle neck in the system right now.
Well, if those youtube videos are correct (the guy comparing k-1 to d850, a7r3) k-1 sensor is actually better iq wise. Now, those newer sensors do come with significant improvements in read out speed, 4k video etc etc. But pure iq wise k-1 seems better.
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QuoteOriginally posted by awscreo Quote
Well, if those youtube videos are correct (the guy comparing k-1 to d850, a7r3) k-1 sensor is actually better iq wise. Now, those newer sensors do come with significant improvements in read out speed, 4k video etc etc. But pure iq wise k-1 seems better.
Surprised the cameraville guy hasn't put out another video. There are some videos from Pentaxplus showing the improvements on K1ii.
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With the K-1 to K-1 Mark II upgrade, is Ricoh offering a warranty period for the newly installed components. Will Ricoh install the latest firmware into the upgraded K-1 Mk II body? Has Ricoh stated anything about replacing the seals for the body?

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With the K-1 to K-1 Mark II upgrade, is Ricoh offering a warranty period for the newly installed components. Will Ricoh install the latest firmware into the upgraded K-1 Mk II body? Has Ricoh stated anything about replacing the seals for the body?
No. I doubt any of that will be available until the upgrade is ready to launch. Maybe in May. Maybe not until someone gets it done and finds out.
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With the K-1 to K-1 Mark II upgrade, is Ricoh offering a warranty period for the newly installed components. Will Ricoh install the latest firmware into the upgraded K-1 Mk II body? Has Ricoh stated anything about replacing the seals for the body?
I don't think we've seen any warranty info. That's apt to be interesting given the range of potential purchase dates. You'd think at least a 90 day warranty if out of warranty at the time the upgrade is performed, but I throw that out there as just a standard length of time I've seen when repairing electronics. Perhaps it will be something along the lines of a minimum of 90 days, e.g. you if still have 6 months, your original warranty is in effect. If you are out of warranty, here's 90 days, only 55 days left, then a 35 day extension . That's my best guess.

Regarding things like seals, I would think it goes without saying that any seal broken to perform the upgrade would be replaced. Ricoh isn't going to go break people's weatherproofing over what is probably mere cents worth of o-rings as part of a $550 upgrade.
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From what I gather from the K10D service manual it is standard operating procedure to replace the body seals whenever the body is opened. I don't see that changing for later bodies.

Since the firmware flash chip is most logically on the motherboard I'd say the chances that the firmware being changed to the K-1ii firmware is more than highly likely.

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DC Watch posted images with the original and new mainboard:
?????PENTAX K-1 Mark II - ???? Watch
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DC Watch posted images with the original and new mainboard:
?????PENTAX K-1 Mark II - ???? Watch
The traces are already on the first board. I have to think they had this in mind and have been planning for it. Probably a case where they knew what they wanted to do as development was in progress, but they wanted to get it to market. Makes sense in timing relative to the K-70 and KP. Can't wait to upgrade mine. Skimming eBay for recent sold auctions, it looks like the price is down on used K-1s, so dollar wise the upgrade is looking very attractive.
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The traces are not identical on the two boards. You can see some traces had to be deviated... and there are other changes (no idea on their meaning, that's not my domain).
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Not identical, but very close. The main area for the accelerator chip is there, and the real estate is there. Yes, supporting chips have been added and some additional traces. I should have written "most of the traces". I think the evidence is there to indicate some long range planning. Also, what do the boards in the KP and K-70 look like? How much of this is shared between models? Might be more than one would at first expect. Why reinvent parts that do the same thing camera to camera?
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