Ricoh announces an upgrade service for current PENTAX K-1 consumers

cpysz123 · 02-23-2018, 05:15 AM

Only in North American and Asian. I never find the same announce in European

k1man · 02-23-2018, 05:40 AM

Originally posted by Adam

Pretty cool- but wouldn't it be more economical to sell your K-1 and buy a K-1 II?

Doubt you'll hear any horror stories with something like this, that's fresh and current.

Hi Adam, I dont post much but I follow, what is the big deal with everyone and the K1 upgrade I have had my K1 more or less since it was available here in Thailand, I bought mine June 2016, I have never even tried Pixel Shift, just wondering how many whiners have on this site who say not enough from Pentax aka Ricoh nothing pleases most people, funny most should stop the whining and take more with the Beautiful K1, buy an Arriflex if you want to Make Movies, a bit pissed off with so much negativity here, sure they are a bit slow with the full frame lenses but time is a good Valuator on the Pentax Faithful, Ian.

---------- Post added 02-23-18 at 05:43 AM ----------

Originally posted by normhead

OK, I think we've worn this one out...

YES I agree

**woodywesty** · 02-23-2018, 05:56 AM

Originally posted by derekkite

Wow! I'm definitely in. I was going to pass on the II version, but this is great.

For some reason I think there will be even more to come.

I'm getting nice results at iso 4000 with the K1 already. This is substantially cropped. Will the K1 II even be better than this?

WOW Derek!! Such a beautifully sharp pic! What lens did you use? Still using my K3ll but the K1 ll may need to be considered.

k1man · 02-23-2018, 05:59 AM

Originally posted by clackers

Cardboard stencil and a white spray can?

It is intriguing ... effectively selling the new camera to its previous owners.

HAHAHA you got it right

Mike.P® · 02-23-2018, 06:18 AM

Originally posted by cpysz123

Only in North American and Asian. I never find the same announce in European

If you are talking about the upgrade service then you haven't looked very hard.

£450 in the UK.

derekkite · 02-23-2018, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by woodywesty

WOW Derek!! Such a beautifully sharp pic! What lens did you use? Still using my K3ll but the K1 ll may need to be considered.

150-450 pentax.

Adam · 02-23-2018, 09:48 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by k1man

Hi Adam, I dont post much but I follow, what is the big deal with everyone and the K1 upgrade I have had my K1 more or less since it was available here in Thailand, I bought mine June 2016, I have never even tried Pixel Shift

I think folks are mainly just concerned with the lack of signs of life from Ricoh. They're clearly working on things, but terrible as always on keeping in touch.

By the way, if you haven't tried pixel shift, you're missing out! Really cool feature for any still subject when you're shooting with a tripod (and apparently the tripod requirement will now be going away with the K-1 II).

Adam
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**sibyrnes** · 02-23-2018, 10:10 AM

I think it is a smart move for Pentax - I'm not so sure it is a smart move for me, I'm happy with my K-1 the way it is but maybe I could be happier. Maybe I will wait and see what the turn around time for the upgrade is. After all, being without my K-1 for an extended time is a cost to me and it might be smarter to put the $550.00 into another K-1 body.

I reckon my decision will depend on the feedback I read here from others who have made the move.

Dr_who · 02-23-2018, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by clackers

Cardboard stencil and a white spray can?

It is intriguing ... effectively selling the new camera to its previous owners.

They are replacing the SR logo no tthe K1 logo

**Ron Boggs** · 02-23-2018, 11:14 AM

So you have an ol' mountain truck that's worth about $5000...
You put in a nice $3000 stereo system...
What do you have now? A $5000 mountain truck...
BUT you get to listen to great music!

Apply the metaphor (though K1 is no mountain truck)...if you'll enjoy the new pixel shift then do it! If you don't listen to music don't put in the stereo.

Note to self: Please don't make any of us consider the used value six years from now for any consumer electronic item we may own. The K1 and K1II will sell for within $100 of each other some day just like K5/K5II, K3/K3II. Maybe more due to hardware but still, it's consumer electronics, let's not get carried away with residual value...

normhead · 02-23-2018, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by Ron Boggs

So you have an ol' mountain truck that's worth about $5000...
You put in a nice $3000 stereo system...
What do you have now? A $5000 mountain truck...
BUT you get to listen to great music!

Reminds me of when we bought my Kia Sportage (yee haw, where you at Gator?} The guy who sold it put a $600 stereo in. He was so disappointed we didn't care. First time I took it for fill up the gas station owner/mechanic who pumped my gas said "What are you a teenager?" I eventually took out the big sub-woofer. It took the place of two garbage bags on my dump runs. I can't afford to lose that kind of capacity. Especially since my wife and I have a "no music in the car" policy. Car time is talk time. That seriously limits how often our car stereo gets used.

Originally posted by Ron Boggs

it's consumer electronics, let's not get carried away with residual value...

especially since an awful lot of it ends up in the dump. I tried to give my 32 inch tube TV to the Sally Ann, they wouldn't take it. I put and add up offering to give it away, no one wanted it.

RonHendriks1966 · 02-23-2018, 12:20 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by clackers

Wikipedia says it was just more RAM for the buffer.

This is a motherboard replacement!

Happy to be shown that's been done before.

Just saw this. Yes only RAM, I forgot that (boy memory was expensive). But there is a big difference. The D3 was a 5000 $ camera and the buffer update was 500, so 10 % upmark in price. The people I know who did this all had the same thing. Sportscamera D3 where the shutter failed (they make a lot of images). So you send in the camera for a repair, new shutter, more ram memory, new seals and completely cleaned. The bill was 900 euro for the 5000 euro costing camera.

For the K-1 that is bought for 1.999 euro the upgrade of 500 euro is a 25 % upmark. That is a lot for people to do. Ofcourse isn't it to expensive for the work that is done. A new K-1 is now available for 1699 euro.....

Quicksand · 02-23-2018, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by mecrox

Ditto if the upgrade is done in a timely fashion, weeks not months.

If Precision were smart (or any of the worldwide service centers for that matter, but especially Precision) they'd take orders, put them into a first-in-first-out queue with each camera having a set service date, then have people send in their cameras a week before the service date. This is a largely repetitive operation so they should be able to figure out how long each board replacement will take, on average, with not too much deviation. If things turn out to go a little faster or slower, they can send update emails advising the customer of a different service date and date to send the camera in.

But hey, I'm not in the camera service business, so good luck everyone! (Myself included.)

**clackers** · 02-23-2018, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

For the K-1 that is bought for 1.999 euro the upgrade of 500 euro is a 25 % upmark. That is a lot for people to do. Ofcourse isn't it to expensive for the work that is done. A new K-1 is now available for 1699 euro.....

There are already 32 users on this forum who've claimed in a poll thread that's only been up a day that they're probably going to do this upgrade, Ron, so how clever is that? Ricoh get that 25% upmark, win-win as another member observed.

For people who've only been APS-C owners until now, that 1699 euro price on the K-1 must be tempting, sure!

surfar · 02-23-2018, 01:11 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by clackers

For people who've only been APS-C owners until now, that 1699 euro price on the K-1 must be tempting, sure!

The OZ prices @times are a lot better.

02-23-2018, 10:10 AM	#143
sibyrnes Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 447	I think it is a smart move for Pentax - I'm not so sure it is a smart move for me, I'm happy with my K-1 the way it is but maybe I could be happier. Maybe I will wait and see what the turn around time for the upgrade is. After all, being without my K-1 for an extended time is a cost to me and it might be smarter to put the $550.00 into another K-1 body. I reckon my decision will depend on the feedback I read here from others who have made the move. Last edited by sibyrnes; 02-23-2018 at 10:18 AM.

02-23-2018, 12:20 PM - 1 Like	#147
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by clackers Wikipedia says it was just more RAM for the buffer. This is a motherboard replacement! Happy to be shown that's been done before. Just saw this. Yes only RAM, I forgot that (boy memory was expensive). But there is a big difference. The D3 was a 5000 $ camera and the buffer update was 500, so 10 % upmark in price. The people I know who did this all had the same thing. Sportscamera D3 where the shutter failed (they make a lot of images). So you send in the camera for a repair, new shutter, more ram memory, new seals and completely cleaned. The bill was 900 euro for the 5000 euro costing camera. For the K-1 that is bought for 1.999 euro the upgrade of 500 euro is a 25 % upmark. That is a lot for people to do. Ofcourse isn't it to expensive for the work that is done. A new K-1 is now available for 1699 euro..... Last edited by RonHendriks1966; 02-23-2018 at 12:26 PM.

02-23-2018, 12:55 PM	#149
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 For the K-1 that is bought for 1.999 euro the upgrade of 500 euro is a 25 % upmark. That is a lot for people to do. Ofcourse isn't it to expensive for the work that is done. A new K-1 is now available for 1699 euro..... There are already 32 users on this forum who've claimed in a poll thread that's only been up a day that they're probably going to do this upgrade, Ron, so how clever is that? Ricoh get that 25% upmark, win-win as another member observed. For people who've only been APS-C owners until now, that 1699 euro price on the K-1 must be tempting, sure! Last edited by clackers; 02-23-2018 at 01:28 PM.

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02-23-2018, 05:15 AM	#136
cpysz123 New Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 21	Only in North American and Asian. I never find the same announce in European

02-23-2018, 05:40 AM	#137
k1man Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Si Chiang Mai. Nong Khai Province Photos: Albums Posts: 358	Originally posted by Adam Pretty cool- but wouldn't it be more economical to sell your K-1 and buy a K-1 II? Doubt you'll hear any horror stories with something like this, that's fresh and current. Hi Adam, I dont post much but I follow, what is the big deal with everyone and the K1 upgrade I have had my K1 more or less since it was available here in Thailand, I bought mine June 2016, I have never even tried Pixel Shift, just wondering how many whiners have on this site who say not enough from Pentax aka Ricoh nothing pleases most people, funny most should stop the whining and take more with the Beautiful K1, buy an Arriflex if you want to Make Movies, a bit pissed off with so much negativity here, sure they are a bit slow with the full frame lenses but time is a good Valuator on the Pentax Faithful, Ian. ---------- Post added 02-23-18 at 05:43 AM ---------- Originally posted by normhead OK, I think we've worn this one out... YES I agree

02-23-2018, 05:56 AM	#138
woodywesty Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Northern Wisconsin Posts: 725	Originally posted by derekkite Wow! I'm definitely in. I was going to pass on the II version, but this is great. For some reason I think there will be even more to come. I'm getting nice results at iso 4000 with the K1 already. This is substantially cropped. Will the K1 II even be better than this? WOW Derek!! Such a beautifully sharp pic! What lens did you use? Still using my K3ll but the K1 ll may need to be considered.

02-23-2018, 05:59 AM	#139
k1man Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Si Chiang Mai. Nong Khai Province Photos: Albums Posts: 358	Originally posted by clackers Cardboard stencil and a white spray can? It is intriguing ... effectively selling the new camera to its previous owners. HAHAHA you got it right

02-23-2018, 06:18 AM	#140
Mike.P® Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Milton, Hampshire, UK Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,154	Originally posted by cpysz123 Only in North American and Asian. I never find the same announce in European If you are talking about the upgrade service then you haven't looked very hard. £450 in the UK.

02-23-2018, 07:39 AM	#141
derekkite Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nelson B.C. Posts: 3,782	Originally posted by woodywesty WOW Derek!! Such a beautifully sharp pic! What lens did you use? Still using my K3ll but the K1 ll may need to be considered. 150-450 pentax.

02-23-2018, 09:48 AM - 1 Like	#142
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,594	Originally posted by k1man Hi Adam, I dont post much but I follow, what is the big deal with everyone and the K1 upgrade I have had my K1 more or less since it was available here in Thailand, I bought mine June 2016, I have never even tried Pixel Shift I think folks are mainly just concerned with the lack of signs of life from Ricoh. They're clearly working on things, but terrible as always on keeping in touch. By the way, if you haven't tried pixel shift, you're missing out! Really cool feature for any still subject when you're shooting with a tripod (and apparently the tripod requirement will now be going away with the K-1 II). Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

02-23-2018, 10:37 AM	#144
Dr_who Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 777	Originally posted by clackers Cardboard stencil and a white spray can? It is intriguing ... effectively selling the new camera to its previous owners. They are replacing the SR logo no tthe K1 logo

02-23-2018, 11:14 AM	#145
Ron Boggs Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: MT Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,349	So you have an ol' mountain truck that's worth about $5000... You put in a nice $3000 stereo system... What do you have now? A $5000 mountain truck... BUT you get to listen to great music! Apply the metaphor (though K1 is no mountain truck)...if you'll enjoy the new pixel shift then do it! If you don't listen to music don't put in the stereo. Note to self: Please don't make any of us consider the used value six years from now for any consumer electronic item we may own. The K1 and K1II will sell for within $100 of each other some day just like K5/K5II, K3/K3II. Maybe more due to hardware but still, it's consumer electronics, let's not get carried away with residual value...

02-23-2018, 11:28 AM	#146
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Ron Boggs So you have an ol' mountain truck that's worth about $5000... You put in a nice $3000 stereo system... What do you have now? A $5000 mountain truck... BUT you get to listen to great music! Reminds me of when we bought my Kia Sportage (yee haw, where you at Gator?} The guy who sold it put a $600 stereo in. He was so disappointed we didn't care. First time I took it for fill up the gas station owner/mechanic who pumped my gas said "What are you a teenager?" I eventually took out the big sub-woofer. It took the place of two garbage bags on my dump runs. I can't afford to lose that kind of capacity. Especially since my wife and I have a "no music in the car" policy. Car time is talk time. That seriously limits how often our car stereo gets used. Originally posted by Ron Boggs it's consumer electronics, let's not get carried away with residual value... especially since an awful lot of it ends up in the dump. I tried to give my 32 inch tube TV to the Sally Ann, they wouldn't take it. I put and add up offering to give it away, no one wanted it.

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02-23-2018, 12:44 PM	#148
Quicksand Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Ohio (formerly SF Bay Area) Posts: 1,519	Originally posted by mecrox Ditto if the upgrade is done in a timely fashion, weeks not months. If Precision were smart (or any of the worldwide service centers for that matter, but especially Precision) they'd take orders, put them into a first-in-first-out queue with each camera having a set service date, then have people send in their cameras a week before the service date. This is a largely repetitive operation so they should be able to figure out how long each board replacement will take, on average, with not too much deviation. If things turn out to go a little faster or slower, they can send update emails advising the customer of a different service date and date to send the camera in. But hey, I'm not in the camera service business, so good luck everyone! (Myself included.)

02-23-2018, 01:11 PM - 1 Like	#150
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,137	Originally posted by clackers For people who've only been APS-C owners until now, that 1699 euro price on the K-1 must be tempting, sure! The OZ prices @times are a lot better.