Originally posted by madbrain Yawn. For anyone who has been waiting for a proper video camera, this is no upgrade. Guess it won't ever be coming from Pentax. Good news is the Panasonic GH5s is out, and I'm saving for it. Wish it was FF too.
Pretty sure the next one will be better at video...
I sincerely hope for at least 100p in FullHD, and more options, like being able to choose from a far more widespread variety of formats, framerate and !bitrates! ...
Actually that shouldn't be THAT difficult, since even my RX100 IV (and some other compacts) can do all that already and it didn't cost me 2000Euros...
(I could use the little fella for the short movie, I am planning, but I feel, coming from a FF sensor, that would look way better)
Though I admit, it may be better to rent or buy a Sony A7s(app. 1500 Euro) for such a project...
It's kinda hard to understand for the non-hardcore PENTAX-fan, why a 2000Euro flagship FF let's you miss those features ... And even when you look at it's photographic core -featureset, let alone...have a burst framerate of only 4fps
Where a new FF camera from an other maker that arrives at the same time and costs the same, not only offers mostly everything from what listed above, but also 4K, a lightning fast Af-system, several hundred AF-Points,(I guess at least 120fps FullHD) slow motion video recording and a burst rate of app. 10 fps...
Admittedly it doesn't offer 36mp, but many people ask their selves, if they would have needed that much megapixel on the FF in first place, given the fact that a used K-30 with fixed aperture, only costs
app. 200Euros and offers app. the same burst rate...
Anyway, all that moaning and yawning, doesn't make any sense, madbrain. I just wanted to make clear that I understand you and I also feel the need for a major(if not to say "galaxies moving") improvement...
As much as all the other Pentaxland even though they would never admit...
I understand( and you should that too if you still feel the PENTAX-System is for you) that it's hard for Pentax, since I guess they are very, if not solely dependent on image-sensor makers like sony (or Sony alone) so they have a hard time bringing something (even nearly!) equivalent to the market, at the same time Sony does...
But IMHO, despite we should understand those circumstances, ...we should indeed also keep up complaining about what we think needs improvement,
cause that minimizes the chances that RICOH could try to play around with more bells and whistles(leds, additional wheels, explicitly presenting minor chipset changes, weird display mechanisms<though i actually like that one>) in their next top-tier products...
Instead of doing a real HUGE upgrade to the core features, of what makes a good camera package, that could save the brand from stumbling into absolute valuelessness...(and therefore completely kill it off in the end)
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So I am really with you, there are so many 4k tv-sets for a bargain, and also on desktop monitors, it is establihing as the new standard right now... as it is also in home entertainment, as every streaming service offers a wide variety of 4K material right now... even my grandma has a 4k tv-set.
In Japan they are introducing 8K right now...
And since Canon has been shitstormed too, for not offering 4K in their 6DII, they now send the M50 for app. 500-600 bucks into the race with nearly every gimmick possible(for them)...
So looking at the price tag, that will kill off any A6xxx sales if they add in the right advertising... So even the cheapest NEX/E cameras from Sony soon will feature what you want.
M43 top tier products offered 4k for a while now.
And it's there on more and more consumer cameras including low-end smartphones... So I really feel we should be positive about that in any upcoming camera...from now on.
I mean the A7III is not only a happy event for FE glass owners it also lifts the bang-for-buck standard(especially looking at the fact that it's dynamic range is en par with the K-1's)
No matter what the usual suspects in their angst-positions are stating, the chances are smaller than small, that we get more sympathy-shag-gear... up next... It should be clear even to the most conservative Ricoh-Imaging, that they even could/should perform seppuku if they try that one more time.
I mean, if RICOH doesn't step into the game with the gear that follows from now on(not only 4k, but especially way better AF and better burst rates), even my humble self, will jump off that ship that I loved for so long and also my father and grandfather used to shoot with, because if other stuff is even cheaper (Canon M50 f.i. and everything that will follow it) but offers way way more... THEN not even the best haptic feeling, could make me NOT feel like an utterly idiot, if I would stay.
I sincerely hope they step up.
Would be sad to carry such a nice design-line and all that glass to it's grave.