The official presentation (Ricoh) of the Pentax Mark II

mohb · 02-22-2018, 05:20 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Dan Rentea

You seems to be into landscapes and because of that you tend to look with different eyes at K1 Mark II which was targeted from the beginning at landscape photographers, and tend to "close your eyes" at things like af, burst rate, 4k video, buffer capacity, SD writing speed, tethered transfer...

Why is it so difficult to grasp the concept of Pentax making one camera aimed at 'generalists'?

Andrea K · 02-22-2018, 05:41 AM - **3 Likes**

from the youtube video

You Tube

ATTENTION: Pentax has changed the ISO comparison in the video. The second image is correct.

**beachgardener** · 02-22-2018, 05:45 AM

Originally posted by Pentaxke

.the early adopters will tell us if the shutter problem for one has been fixed in this II version... Please can you elaborate? A quick search didn't bring anything up...

There is plenty of talk in the K-1 threads, apparently there is for some a shutter shake at certain mid way shutter speeds, making things a little soft, with certain lenses, the K-1 mob should comment

**clackers** · 02-22-2018, 05:54 AM

Originally posted by beachgardener

There is plenty of talk in the K-1 threads, apparently there is for some a shutter shake at certain mid way shutter speeds, making things a little soft, with certain lenses, the K-1 mob should comment

Yeah, the way around it, for whatever the lenses are meant to be, you either keep above 1/100s or use the electronic shutter.

Now, the electronic shutter in the K-1 only works in Live View, but maybe the K-1 II doesn't require that.

Pentaxke · 02-22-2018, 06:04 AM

Originally posted by beachgardener

There is plenty of talk in the K-1 threads, apparently there is for some a shutter shake at certain mid way shutter speeds, making things a little soft, with certain lenses, the K-1 mob should comment

Originally posted by clackers

Yeah, the way around it, for whatever the lenses are meant to be, you either keep above 1/100s or use the electronic shutter.

Now, the electronic shutter in the K-1 only works in Live View, but maybe the K-1 II doesn't require that.

Can you point me to such a thread? This is the first I heard about it...

Sandy Hancock · 02-22-2018, 06:05 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by clackers

Yeah, the way around it, for whatever the lenses are meant to be, you either keep above 1/100s or use the electronic shutter.

Now, the electronic shutter in the K-1 only works in Live View, but maybe the K-1 II doesn't require that.

Or just crank the ISO and shoot at a faster shutter speed. With the Accelerator Unit on the K-1 Mark II that should be a free kick.

**beachgardener** · 02-22-2018, 06:05 AM

Originally posted by Pentaxke

Can you point me to such a thread? This is the first I heard about it...

I'll have a look, yes, but later, late, too tired now, off to bed shortly

Sandy Hancock · 02-22-2018, 06:06 AM

Originally posted by Pentaxke

Can you point me to such a thread? This is the first I heard about it...

Look up "shutter shock"

**beachgardener** · 02-22-2018, 06:09 AM

Originally posted by Pentaxke

Can you point me to such a thread? This is the first I heard about it...

try read this thread: some information here.
New K-1 disappointment - PentaxForums.com

Pentaxke · 02-22-2018, 06:20 AM

Originally posted by beachgardener

I'll have a look, yes, but later, late, too tired now, off to bed shortly

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

Look up "shutter shock"

Originally posted by beachgardener

try read this thread: some information here.
New K-1 disappointment - PentaxForums.com

Thank you Guys!

repaap · 02-22-2018, 06:28 AM

shutter shock is hardly any problem, if one knows how to avoid it. I do personally think that there is no problem, this is the thing with cameras with moving mirror, even mirrorles cameras has this, due curtain movement. i do think that pentax K-1 handles that really well. key element is, for any problem. if you konw that SS appears in certain shutter speed, with any lens...avoid that by going slower or faster. do not sit there where problem is -> broblem solved. (or hone up your technique/skills)

**clackers** · 02-22-2018, 06:38 AM

Originally posted by repaap

shutter shock is hardly any problem, if one knows how to avoid it. I do personally think that there is no problem, this is the thing with cameras with moving mirror, even mirrorles cameras has this, due curtain movement. i do think that pentax K-1 handles that really well. key element is, for any problem. if you konw that SS appears in certain shutter speed, with any lens...avoid that by going slower or faster. do not sit there where problem is -> broblem solved. (or hone up your technique/skills)

Certainly full frame shutters - they're big.

The Sony A7R is notorious for it.

Wheatfield · 02-22-2018, 06:51 AM - **6 Likes**

Originally posted by Gedeon

Am I the only one here to think it's a non-event? Everyone's smug for a very minor advance of the K-1... I don't see anything fundamentally revolutionary in these few new developments. Just the impression that pentax remains on a defensive position, and stagnates more than it advances. Sorry, for me I only see here a rather disturbing sign, open to you to see a outstanding spirit of innovation....

Are you equally disappointed with firmware updates? Exactly what were you expecting? Oh yes, until a week ago, absolutely nothing, now you have something and it isn't enough.
Sheesh.

**ffking** · 02-22-2018, 06:59 AM

Interesting to see if they've got any surprises left in the locker for CP+

gerax · 02-22-2018, 06:59 AM

I don't want to sound like a broken record as this has probably been said already in the pages of this thread but...to me this update is a bit rushed and doesn't offer that much to make me want to trade my 1 yr old K1 for the MKII...
I know the K1 is more geared towards landscape photographers, I'm one, that's one of the reasons I chose it for but think they could've waited more to improve in the areas the camera is weaker.

I take lots of landscape pics, but also wildlife and portraits and in these two latter cases I could use some more AF accuracy and speed and burst rate. 4K video...well that would certainly be nice but I can live with 1080 30FPS for the moment although that's a bit dated...USB 2...definitely yes (K3 MKII has USB 2...)...Considering this is Pentax flagship camera I think they could have waited and make it a more well rounded one, and please don't tell me "there's Nikon or Canon for this", I love my K1 and since I bought in a system with lenses and accessories, I would like to use it for the more things possible.

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02-22-2018, 05:20 AM - 2 Likes	#76
mohb Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,912	Originally posted by Dan Rentea You seems to be into landscapes and because of that you tend to look with different eyes at K1 Mark II which was targeted from the beginning at landscape photographers, and tend to "close your eyes" at things like af, burst rate, 4k video, buffer capacity, SD writing speed, tethered transfer... Why is it so difficult to grasp the concept of Pentax making one camera aimed at 'generalists'?

02-22-2018, 05:45 AM	#78
beachgardener Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,842	Originally posted by Pentaxke .the early adopters will tell us if the shutter problem for one has been fixed in this II version... Please can you elaborate? A quick search didn't bring anything up... There is plenty of talk in the K-1 threads, apparently there is for some a shutter shake at certain mid way shutter speeds, making things a little soft, with certain lenses, the K-1 mob should comment

02-22-2018, 05:54 AM	#79
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by beachgardener There is plenty of talk in the K-1 threads, apparently there is for some a shutter shake at certain mid way shutter speeds, making things a little soft, with certain lenses, the K-1 mob should comment Yeah, the way around it, for whatever the lenses are meant to be, you either keep above 1/100s or use the electronic shutter. Now, the electronic shutter in the K-1 only works in Live View, but maybe the K-1 II doesn't require that.

02-22-2018, 06:04 AM	#80
Pentaxke Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 476	Originally posted by beachgardener There is plenty of talk in the K-1 threads, apparently there is for some a shutter shake at certain mid way shutter speeds, making things a little soft, with certain lenses, the K-1 mob should comment Originally posted by clackers Yeah, the way around it, for whatever the lenses are meant to be, you either keep above 1/100s or use the electronic shutter. Now, the electronic shutter in the K-1 only works in Live View, but maybe the K-1 II doesn't require that. Can you point me to such a thread? This is the first I heard about it...

02-22-2018, 06:05 AM - 1 Like	#81
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,267	Originally posted by clackers Yeah, the way around it, for whatever the lenses are meant to be, you either keep above 1/100s or use the electronic shutter. Now, the electronic shutter in the K-1 only works in Live View, but maybe the K-1 II doesn't require that. Or just crank the ISO and shoot at a faster shutter speed. With the Accelerator Unit on the K-1 Mark II that should be a free kick.

02-22-2018, 06:05 AM	#82
beachgardener Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,842	Originally posted by Pentaxke Can you point me to such a thread? This is the first I heard about it... I'll have a look, yes, but later, late, too tired now, off to bed shortly

02-22-2018, 06:06 AM	#83
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,267	Originally posted by Pentaxke Can you point me to such a thread? This is the first I heard about it... Look up "shutter shock"

02-22-2018, 06:09 AM	#84
beachgardener Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,842	Originally posted by Pentaxke Can you point me to such a thread? This is the first I heard about it... try read this thread: some information here. New K-1 disappointment - PentaxForums.com

02-22-2018, 06:20 AM	#85
Pentaxke Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 476	Originally posted by beachgardener I'll have a look, yes, but later, late, too tired now, off to bed shortly Originally posted by Sandy Hancock Look up "shutter shock" Originally posted by beachgardener try read this thread: some information here. New K-1 disappointment - PentaxForums.com Thank you Guys!

02-22-2018, 06:28 AM	#86
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	shutter shock is hardly any problem, if one knows how to avoid it. I do personally think that there is no problem, this is the thing with cameras with moving mirror, even mirrorles cameras has this, due curtain movement. i do think that pentax K-1 handles that really well. key element is, for any problem. if you konw that SS appears in certain shutter speed, with any lens...avoid that by going slower or faster. do not sit there where problem is -> broblem solved. (or hone up your technique/skills)

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02-22-2018, 06:38 AM	#87
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by repaap shutter shock is hardly any problem, if one knows how to avoid it. I do personally think that there is no problem, this is the thing with cameras with moving mirror, even mirrorles cameras has this, due curtain movement. i do think that pentax K-1 handles that really well. key element is, for any problem. if you konw that SS appears in certain shutter speed, with any lens...avoid that by going slower or faster. do not sit there where problem is -> broblem solved. (or hone up your technique/skills) Certainly full frame shutters - they're big. The Sony A7R is notorious for it.

02-22-2018, 06:51 AM - 6 Likes	#88
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,975	Originally posted by Gedeon Am I the only one here to think it's a non-event? Everyone's smug for a very minor advance of the K-1... I don't see anything fundamentally revolutionary in these few new developments. Just the impression that pentax remains on a defensive position, and stagnates more than it advances. Sorry, for me I only see here a rather disturbing sign, open to you to see a outstanding spirit of innovation.... Are you equally disappointed with firmware updates? Exactly what were you expecting? Oh yes, until a week ago, absolutely nothing, now you have something and it isn't enough. Sheesh.

02-22-2018, 06:59 AM	#89
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Interesting to see if they've got any surprises left in the locker for CP+

02-22-2018, 06:59 AM	#90
gerax Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 224	I don't want to sound like a broken record as this has probably been said already in the pages of this thread but...to me this update is a bit rushed and doesn't offer that much to make me want to trade my 1 yr old K1 for the MKII... I know the K1 is more geared towards landscape photographers, I'm one, that's one of the reasons I chose it for but think they could've waited more to improve in the areas the camera is weaker. I take lots of landscape pics, but also wildlife and portraits and in these two latter cases I could use some more AF accuracy and speed and burst rate. 4K video...well that would certainly be nice but I can live with 1080 30FPS for the moment although that's a bit dated...USB 2...definitely yes (K3 MKII has USB 2...)...Considering this is Pentax flagship camera I think they could have waited and make it a more well rounded one, and please don't tell me "there's Nikon or Canon for this", I love my K1 and since I bought in a system with lenses and accessories, I would like to use it for the more things possible.