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**clackers** · 02-26-2018, 08:09 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Paul the Sunman

Ha ha. No Clackers, a fast 50, especially a BIG HEAVY fast 50, is not on my wish list. I'll pass on that one thanks. I already have three heavy FF lenses (15-30, 70-200, and 150-450), as well as the Sigma 35 Art, so now I'm only in the market for more compact walk-around options.

Well, if we meetup, Paul, from your signature I see you have so far failed to acknowledge the existence of the FA Limiteds, that's got to be rectified.

Last edited by clackers; 02-26-2018 at 08:15 PM.

**pres589** · 02-26-2018, 08:13 PM

That wide angle, large aperture lens is the D-FA 35 1.4, right?

Anyone want to guess what the ultra-wide listed is going to be? The layout of that roadmap image makes me think it's at least a 20mm, if not wider, which seems more likely.

northcoastgreg · 02-26-2018, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by pres589

Anyone want to guess what the ultra-wide listed is going to be?

Probably 20mm, perhaps something a bit wider.

**pres589** · 02-26-2018, 08:23 PM

Ha, that's exactly what I wrote.

mee · 02-26-2018, 08:24 PM - **8 Likes**

Originally posted by surfar

Four lenses 2019 or later....HOW MUCH LATER, is the Q????

At some point you realize she is always coming up with excuses when you see her out.. too busy to go out with you and isn't returning your calls.... shes gone, man. You can keep waiting for her to change her mind.. to come around.. but in her heart she is interested in D-FA and DA* things now.

Adam · 02-26-2018, 08:30 PM

2 lenses about to be released, new 2 lenses added to the roadmap. Can't complain!

Interesting that there will be a D FA 70-200mm F4. I wonder what that will mean for the DA 60-250mm (perhaps nothing).

DeadJohn · 02-26-2018, 08:47 PM

The 70-200 f4 is a surprise. I'll venture a guess that it's a rebadge of this recent Tamron release TAMRON | 70-210mm /F4 Di VC USD

Rebadges are okay because, due to [design and manufacturing constraints] Pentax cannot churn out many new lenses at the same time. Sigma and Tamron won't commit to k-mount, so the most expeditious way to get new lenses is for Pentax to pay Tamron, then we pay Pentax more. If Tamron made new lenses in k-mount, they would still need to charge a premium to cover small runs.

It's curious how we're getting the 50, 85, and now 70-200 all before the ultrawide prime. I wonder if Ricoh sees more future in portraiture than landscapes.

Paul the Sunman · 02-26-2018, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by clackers

Well, if we meetup, Paul, from your signature I see you have so far failed to acknowledge the existence of the FA Limiteds, that's got to be rectified.

I keep thinking that updated versions of the FA limiteds will pop out without warning some day. So I'm waiting for them. However, in the interim, the DA40 Ltd and DA70 Ltd are pretty damn good on FF, so I'm in no hurry.

**hyyz** · 02-26-2018, 08:58 PM

My guess for that large aperture wide angle single focus lens is D-FA* 24mm F1.4 or F2. 35mm is not as urgently needed as 24mm.

robjmitchell · 02-26-2018, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by Adam

2 lenses about to be released, new 2 lenses added to the roadmap. Can't complain!

Interesting that there will be a D FA 70-200mm F4. I wonder what that will mean for the DA 60-250mm (perhaps nothing).

Whats the second lens added other than the 70-200/4?

surfar · 02-26-2018, 09:14 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by mee

she is interested in D-FA and DA* things now.

Hmmm, think i'm sick of waiting....LOTS of others available.

Adam · 02-26-2018, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by robjmitchell

Whats the second lens added other than the 70-200/4?

Nevermind, I guess the telephoto has been there all along!

**RobA_Oz** · 02-26-2018, 09:28 PM

Until the new ultra-wide, which looks to be centred on 20mm FL, appears, I'll happily keep shooting with my FA20/2.8. If it's shorter than 20mm, I might also be interested, although the Irix 15mm is tempting. Nonetheless, with the three Limiteds and the FA20 (plus the FA*24, if I want extra weight to carry) I have most of my current needs already satisfied for 35FF. If I need longer FL, I can go to my K-3. Still, this will make some folks happy and others not.

**clackers** · 02-26-2018, 09:31 PM

Originally posted by Paul the Sunman

I keep thinking that updated versions of the FA limiteds will pop out without warning some day. So I'm waiting for them. However, in the interim, the DA40 Ltd and DA70 Ltd are pretty damn good on FF, so I'm in no hurry.

Yeah, they are. And the FA35 can substitute for the FA31 if someone's cash strapped and want a bit of its performance.

zapp · 02-26-2018, 10:30 PM

Great move, kill used price for K1 and extent the year of the prime to at least 3 years.
In positive words, the K1 update is most likely worth it, and the new roadmap shows signs of life. 2018 will not be exciting, 2019 is a long wait and 2019 and later is far far away.

02-26-2018, 08:30 PM	#21
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02-26-2018, 09:26 PM	#27
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,608	Originally posted by robjmitchell Whats the second lens added other than the 70-200/4? Nevermind, I guess the telephoto has been there all along! Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

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02-26-2018, 08:09 PM - 3 Likes	#16
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by Paul the Sunman Ha ha. No Clackers, a fast 50, especially a BIG HEAVY fast 50, is not on my wish list. I'll pass on that one thanks. I already have three heavy FF lenses (15-30, 70-200, and 150-450), as well as the Sigma 35 Art, so now I'm only in the market for more compact walk-around options. Well, if we meetup, Paul, from your signature I see you have so far failed to acknowledge the existence of the FA Limiteds, that's got to be rectified. Last edited by clackers; 02-26-2018 at 08:15 PM.

02-26-2018, 08:13 PM	#17
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,533	That wide angle, large aperture lens is the D-FA 35 1.4, right? Anyone want to guess what the ultra-wide listed is going to be? The layout of that roadmap image makes me think it's at least a 20mm, if not wider, which seems more likely.

02-26-2018, 08:20 PM	#18
northcoastgreg Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Northern Michigan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,175	Originally posted by pres589 Anyone want to guess what the ultra-wide listed is going to be? Probably 20mm, perhaps something a bit wider.

02-26-2018, 08:23 PM	#19
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,533	Ha, that's exactly what I wrote.

02-26-2018, 08:24 PM - 8 Likes	#20
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by surfar Four lenses 2019 or later....HOW MUCH LATER, is the Q???? At some point you realize she is always coming up with excuses when you see her out.. too busy to go out with you and isn't returning your calls.... shes gone, man. You can keep waiting for her to change her mind.. to come around.. but in her heart she is interested in D-FA and DA* things now.

02-26-2018, 08:47 PM	#22
DeadJohn Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 4,834	The 70-200 f4 is a surprise. I'll venture a guess that it's a rebadge of this recent Tamron release TAMRON \| 70-210mm /F4 Di VC USD Rebadges are okay because, due to [design and manufacturing constraints] Pentax cannot churn out many new lenses at the same time. Sigma and Tamron won't commit to k-mount, so the most expeditious way to get new lenses is for Pentax to pay Tamron, then we pay Pentax more. If Tamron made new lenses in k-mount, they would still need to charge a premium to cover small runs. It's curious how we're getting the 50, 85, and now 70-200 all before the ultrawide prime. I wonder if Ricoh sees more future in portraiture than landscapes.

02-26-2018, 08:49 PM	#23
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,847	Originally posted by clackers Well, if we meetup, Paul, from your signature I see you have so far failed to acknowledge the existence of the FA Limiteds, that's got to be rectified. I keep thinking that updated versions of the FA limiteds will pop out without warning some day. So I'm waiting for them. However, in the interim, the DA40 Ltd and DA70 Ltd are pretty damn good on FF, so I'm in no hurry.

02-26-2018, 08:58 PM	#24
hyyz Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 478	My guess for that large aperture wide angle single focus lens is D-FA* 24mm F1.4 or F2. 35mm is not as urgently needed as 24mm.

02-26-2018, 09:00 PM	#25
robjmitchell Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne Aus Posts: 1,776	Originally posted by Adam 2 lenses about to be released, new 2 lenses added to the roadmap. Can't complain! Interesting that there will be a D FA 70-200mm F4. I wonder what that will mean for the DA 60-250mm (perhaps nothing). Whats the second lens added other than the 70-200/4?

02-26-2018, 09:14 PM - 1 Like	#26
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,145	Originally posted by mee she is interested in D-FA and DA* things now. Hmmm, think i'm sick of waiting....LOTS of others available.

02-26-2018, 09:28 PM	#28
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,209	Until the new ultra-wide, which looks to be centred on 20mm FL, appears, I'll happily keep shooting with my FA20/2.8. If it's shorter than 20mm, I might also be interested, although the Irix 15mm is tempting. Nonetheless, with the three Limiteds and the FA20 (plus the FA*24, if I want extra weight to carry) I have most of my current needs already satisfied for 35FF. If I need longer FL, I can go to my K-3. Still, this will make some folks happy and others not.

02-26-2018, 09:31 PM	#29
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by Paul the Sunman I keep thinking that updated versions of the FA limiteds will pop out without warning some day. So I'm waiting for them. However, in the interim, the DA40 Ltd and DA70 Ltd are pretty damn good on FF, so I'm in no hurry. Yeah, they are. And the FA35 can substitute for the FA31 if someone's cash strapped and want a bit of its performance.

02-26-2018, 10:30 PM	#30
zapp Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,389	Great move, kill used price for K1 and extent the year of the prime to at least 3 years. In positive words, the K1 update is most likely worth it, and the new roadmap shows signs of life. 2018 will not be exciting, 2019 is a long wait and 2019 and later is far far away.

Good: New roadmap, new lens

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