FF TC - full frame teleconverter

angerdan · 03-06-2018, 03:32 PM - **3 Likes**

Finally we know a new TC will come 🔭
When it happens, it'l be the first FF TC from Pentax who uses the AF of the lens. The AF of the F 1.7X was independend from the lens.

So if there are no surprises, a possible name can be D FA 1.4X AW.

Since the price for the DA was around $400, the D FA could be around 500$.
Pentax HD DA Rear Converter 1,4x AW | In der Grafik - in the? | Flickr
Pentax AF-Adapter 1,7x ebay | In der Grafik - in the chart: ? | Flickr

Originally posted by angerdan

The 1.7x rear converter was the first AF TC from Pentax. The current HD 1.4x AW doesn't cover the 35mm image circle. What do you think about an FF TC?

surfar · 03-06-2018, 03:38 PM

Great news! Whens this happyning?

Kunzite · 03-06-2018, 03:39 PM

They don't say.

**BigMackCam** · 03-06-2018, 04:18 PM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by angerdan

Since the price for the DA was around $400, the D FA could be around 500$.

Could, but just as likely may not be. Make no assumptions, as those can so easily lead to disappointments. Rely only on information from Ricoh's own announcements as and when they happen

OoKU · 03-06-2018, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by angerdan

Finally we know a new TC will come 🔭
When it happens, it'l be the first FF TC from Pentax who uses the AF of the lens. The AF of the F 1.7X was independend from the lens.

So if there are no surprises, a possible name can be D FA 1.4X AW.

Since the price for the DA was around $400, the D FA could be around 500$.
Pentax HD DA Rear Converter 1,4x AW | In der Grafik - in the? | Flickr
Pentax AF-Adapter 1,7x ebay | In der Grafik - in the chart: ? | Flickr

Where from knows？

**BigMackCam** · 03-06-2018, 05:20 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by OoKU

Where from knows？

We know that a full frame TC may be in the pipeline from PF Staff's interview with Ricoh at CP+... but we have absolutely no indication of is expected price or release date.

**gaweidert** · 03-06-2018, 05:32 PM

Waiting for one here. Hopefully not two years out. How hard can it be?

OoKU · 03-06-2018, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by BigMackCam

We know that a full frame TC may be in the pipeline from PF Staff's interview with Ricoh at CP+... but we have absolutely no indication of is expected price or release date.

Good new，that's what I want！

**BigMackCam** · 03-06-2018, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by gaweidert

Waiting for one here. Hopefully not two years out. How hard can it be?

I don't think it's all that hard - but it's an entirely new product, it has to be optically capable of impressing users with a 36MP FF sensor, and we don't know where it sits on Ricoh's priority list. There'll be more to development and release times than the difficulty of this one product design...

**jatrax** · 03-06-2018, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by gaweidert

How hard can it be?

Probably not all that hard compared to something like the DFA*50mm but it still takes up R&D time, resources and a spot on the production line. Just a simple cost / benefit problem. Which likely puts a new TC rather far down on the list. 2020? 2021?

**gaweidert** · 03-06-2018, 05:44 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by BigMackCam

I don't think it's all that hard - but it's an entirely new product, it has to be optically capable of impressing users with a 36MP FF sensor, and we don't know where it sits on Ricoh's priority list. There'll be more to development and release times than the difficulty of this one product design...

I know, I know but i am heading to Yellowstone in 2 months. So hop to it Pentax!!!

**BigMackCam** · 03-06-2018, 06:01 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by gaweidert

I know, I know but i am heading to Yellowstone in 2 months. So hop to it Pentax!!!

LOL

Well, you've thrown down the gauntlet!

Paul the Sunman · 03-06-2018, 06:07 PM

Given the dearth of modern extreme telephoto options available for K-mount, a FF TC would be extremely welcome to pair with the DFA 150-450. Indeed, I'd say it's a necessity to value-add to the current DFA lineup, and I'm surprised it wasn't a priority.

Like others, I don't imagine that a FF TC would be technically the most challenging task on Pentax's plate, but I don't know that for sure. Let's hope we see it sooner rather than later.

rawr · 03-06-2018, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by Paul the Sunman

I don't imagine that a FF TC would be technically the most challenging task on Pentax's plate, but I don't know that for sure. Let's hope we see it sooner rather than later.

Just remember it took over 10 years for the current HD DA rear converter to appear [in 2014] after Pentax introduced it's first APS-C DSLR [in 2003] ... So, be patient

str8talk83 · 03-06-2018, 07:45 PM

This is definitely needed in the lineup, although there aren’t many lenses to use it with yet. I’m very impressed with the DA version, so I’m sure they will deliver.

03-06-2018, 03:32 PM - 3 Likes	#1
angerdan Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,639	FF TC - full frame teleconverter Finally we know a new TC will come 🔭 When it happens, it'l be the first FF TC from Pentax who uses the AF of the lens. The AF of the F 1.7X was independend from the lens. So if there are no surprises, a possible name can be D FA 1.4X AW. Since the price for the DA was around $400, the D FA could be around 500$. Pentax HD DA Rear Converter 1,4x AW \| In der Grafik - in the? \| Flickr Pentax AF-Adapter 1,7x ebay \| In der Grafik - in the chart: ? \| Flickr Originally posted by angerdan The 1.7x rear converter was the first AF TC from Pentax. The current HD 1.4x AW doesn't cover the 35mm image circle. What do you think about an FF TC?

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03-06-2018, 03:38 PM	#2
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,137	Great news! Whens this happyning?

03-06-2018, 03:39 PM	#3
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	They don't say.

03-06-2018, 04:18 PM - 4 Likes	#4
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,647	Originally posted by angerdan Since the price for the DA was around $400, the D FA could be around 500$. Could, but just as likely may not be. Make no assumptions, as those can so easily lead to disappointments. Rely only on information from Ricoh's own announcements as and when they happen

03-06-2018, 05:08 PM	#5
OoKU Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 740	Originally posted by angerdan Finally we know a new TC will come 🔭 When it happens, it'l be the first FF TC from Pentax who uses the AF of the lens. The AF of the F 1.7X was independend from the lens. So if there are no surprises, a possible name can be D FA 1.4X AW. Since the price for the DA was around $400, the D FA could be around 500$. Pentax HD DA Rear Converter 1,4x AW \| In der Grafik - in the? \| Flickr Pentax AF-Adapter 1,7x ebay \| In der Grafik - in the chart: ? \| Flickr Where from knows？

03-06-2018, 05:20 PM - 2 Likes	#6
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,647	Originally posted by OoKU Where from knows？ We know that a full frame TC may be in the pipeline from PF Staff's interview with Ricoh at CP+... but we have absolutely no indication of is expected price or release date.

03-06-2018, 05:32 PM	#7
gaweidert Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,325	Waiting for one here. Hopefully not two years out. How hard can it be?

03-06-2018, 05:35 PM	#8
OoKU Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 740	Originally posted by BigMackCam We know that a full frame TC may be in the pipeline from PF Staff's interview with Ricoh at CP+... but we have absolutely no indication of is expected price or release date. Good new，that's what I want！

03-06-2018, 05:37 PM	#9
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,647	Originally posted by gaweidert Waiting for one here. Hopefully not two years out. How hard can it be? I don't think it's all that hard - but it's an entirely new product, it has to be optically capable of impressing users with a 36MP FF sensor, and we don't know where it sits on Ricoh's priority list. There'll be more to development and release times than the difficulty of this one product design...

03-06-2018, 05:43 PM	#10
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by gaweidert How hard can it be? Probably not all that hard compared to something like the DFA*50mm but it still takes up R&D time, resources and a spot on the production line. Just a simple cost / benefit problem. Which likely puts a new TC rather far down on the list. 2020? 2021?

03-06-2018, 05:44 PM - 2 Likes	#11
gaweidert Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,325	Originally posted by BigMackCam I don't think it's all that hard - but it's an entirely new product, it has to be optically capable of impressing users with a 36MP FF sensor, and we don't know where it sits on Ricoh's priority list. There'll be more to development and release times than the difficulty of this one product design... I know, I know but i am heading to Yellowstone in 2 months. So hop to it Pentax!!!

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03-06-2018, 06:01 PM - 1 Like	#12
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,647	Originally posted by gaweidert I know, I know but i am heading to Yellowstone in 2 months. So hop to it Pentax!!! LOL Well, you've thrown down the gauntlet!

03-06-2018, 06:07 PM	#13
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,842	Given the dearth of modern extreme telephoto options available for K-mount, a FF TC would be extremely welcome to pair with the DFA 150-450. Indeed, I'd say it's a necessity to value-add to the current DFA lineup, and I'm surprised it wasn't a priority. Like others, I don't imagine that a FF TC would be technically the most challenging task on Pentax's plate, but I don't know that for sure. Let's hope we see it sooner rather than later.

03-06-2018, 07:37 PM	#14
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by Paul the Sunman I don't imagine that a FF TC would be technically the most challenging task on Pentax's plate, but I don't know that for sure. Let's hope we see it sooner rather than later. Just remember it took over 10 years for the current HD DA rear converter to appear [in 2014] after Pentax introduced it's first APS-C DSLR [in 2003] ... So, be patient

03-06-2018, 07:45 PM	#15
str8talk83 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bluffton, SC Photos: Albums Posts: 674	This is definitely needed in the lineup, although there aren’t many lenses to use it with yet. I’m very impressed with the DA version, so I’m sure they will deliver.