Quote: All APS-C glass physically fits FF cameras and is capable of producing an image. Where do we draw the line?
Lens designations should be chosen carefully by the manufactrurer at release.
We draw the line at what we find functional on an FF camera. Most APS-c lenses vignette on FF, because they were designed for APS-c. But there is a certain amount of DA glass that was designed for film FF and the design was just carried over to APS-c. They were designed for FF, they cover the FF circle without undue vignetting (even some FF lenses vignette, that's not necessarily a criterion.
My old screw drive Tamron 300 and Tamron MC7 2x give me 600mm 5.6 on FF. That's very nice and on my K-1 the IQ is quite acceptable.
But what other lenses would be useul?
The 300 2.8 lets me stop down a bit to ƒ8 to avoid fringing and CA) , but what other Pentax glass would even be functional for 2x TC? The 200 2.8, the 70-200 2.8 (and possibly the DFA 100 macro) are the only ones I can think of.
My experience would suggest you will get optimum use of a 1.4 TC for ƒ4 glass and a 2x for 2.8 glass. Without more longer 2.8 glass, my question would be "why?" What lenses would you actually want to use it on?
Just in terms of possible sales, a 1.4 FF TC could be used on both APS-c and FF, with all the ƒ4 lenses (300, 60-250, 70-210) giving it a much broader market the a 2x. I would expect to see that one first. It makes little sense to release a TC that pushes lenses past ƒ5.6. Practically, AF is negatively affected when a lens combo wide open is ƒ8 or slower. Making a TC for that purpose would in my opinion cause customer dissatisfaction. Among my Nikon and Canon shooting acquaintances, 1.4 is used on ƒ4 lenses. 2x is used on ƒ2.8 lenses. There's no way Pentax users interested in optimum performance are going to find things work differently just because they use Pentax. And those buying a 2x for their ƒ4 glass are going to run into some serious limitations. The 1.7 for ƒ4 glass is functionally better than 2x for AF. Especially since it acts as a focus limiter and gives you extremely fast AF within it's focus range.
IMHO most of the dissatisfaction with TCs is people use them on glass for which they aren't appropriate (not sharp enough, or not fast enough). Just because you can use them on given lens, doesn't mean you should. On the other hand, if you can't afford the long glass you need to make good use of the TC, I guess it's better than nothing.
But hey, no one at Pentax asked me for an opinion, they'll do what they want.
Last edited by normhead; 09-24-2020 at 06:58 AM.