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09-04-2008, 12:57 PM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by soccerjoe5 Quote
true, but it slows me down in telephotos. it's like comparing the zooming feel of the 70-200s and the 50-150/50-135 to the cheaper 70-300 lenses out there. i just don't like the barrel extending for telephotos, the zoom action is much smoother if the lens is IF (internal focusing). i mean, canon was able to make a sealed 70-200/4 lens with IS (i think) and IF in a small, light, affordable package. i'm sure pentax can make a 60-250/4 that's a little bigger, a little bit more expensive, with IF. and maybe i don't like it because it's a DA* and i think of DA*s as the equivalent of canon's L lenses and nikon's gold ring lenses.

anyway, it's just my opinion though
Internal Focus and Internal zoom are different and should affect lens design quite differently IMO.

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all da* are internal focusing! the barrel only extends to extend the zoom. It creates a smaller lens in total and lighter so it's not really that bad!
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QuoteOriginally posted by dopeytree Quote
all da* are internal focusing! the barrel only extends to extend the zoom. It creates a smaller lens in total and lighter so it's not really that bad!
But soccerjoe5 seems to be confused, mixing internal zooming and internal focussing (well, that's what I understood from his post).
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I do hope this lens does not extend when zooming. As much as I don't like the idea that it's an f/4 lens (would rather see f/2.8 - I know it would make the lens huge) I think it will be great for shooting indoor sports with a sensor that can do ISO3200 without too much noise.

But I think they'll make another DA* zoom with f/2.8 to extend the DA* 50-135mm f/2.8. Well just have to wait and see ... Photokina is close.

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QuoteOriginally posted by thibs Quote
Internal Focus and Internal zoom are different and should affect lens design quite differently IMO.
argh haha my mistake, i meant internal zoom
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QuoteOriginally posted by ftpaddict Quote
and what it'll come out looking like (most likely. I mean.. how many times can you redesign a lens?)
IMHO, just adding tripod colar makes redesign of lens.

wide lens is hard to make FF compatible

I think this lens will be FF compatible, because it is long zoom. 60~
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In the earlier version, there seems to be a distinct difference between the diameter of the lens barrel at the focusing ring and at the zoom ring; in this new version the whole barrel seems to stay the same size up right until the tripod collar and lens mount...could this mean some internal changes?

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Anyone got any ideas of what it will cost?
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Anyone got any ideas of what it will cost?
about $9.95
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QuoteOriginally posted by dopeytree Quote
the 16-50mm da* f/2.8 extends too so no it doesn't affect it or it shouldn't anyway!
Oops! I didn't know that. I only have the 50-135mm... the 16-50mm is my next lens.

Good to hear that that won't affect the sealing. I've got another vacation coming up in January and would love to add the 60-250mm to my bag (assuming I can do it without totally going into debt... which I probably won't be able to do!) Part of my justification for buying the 50-135mm was that I'd sell my Vivitar S1 70-210mm version 3... but I still haven't sold it, maybe I'll use the same justification for the 60-250.
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personaly, I think 60-250 is more important than pentax to release FF DSLR. just hope it turns out worth the loooong waiting.
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Can somebody clarify why this lens is so important to so many? It would/will make a fairly long telezoom. Wouldn't a fast standard or wide zoom be more important (like the 16-50 f/2.8).

Just wondering.
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Though I have the 16-50mm, my style is to shoot very tight on my subject. Though I love the 50-135mm for people photography, it's not near long enough to shoot animals. I took a 300mm prime to the zoo last Sunday and it reinforced my desire to be able to 'go long'. This 60-250 or a 100-400 would be ideal for my way of shooting.
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QuoteOriginally posted by cyg Quote
Can somebody clarify why this lens is so important to so many? It would/will make a fairly long telezoom. Wouldn't a fast standard or wide zoom be more important (like the 16-50 f/2.8).

Just wondering.
Maybe it's supposed to be that all-important "prime-lens beater"; with exceptional performance across the entire focal range.

I for one would much rather have a faster 70-200. :ugh:
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