reliable Photokina Pentax rumor

montecarlo · 09-05-2008, 01:40 AM

...and doesn't seem to be a K2000D either (K20D facelift or a superior class).

Asahiflex · 09-05-2008, 01:45 AM

Originally posted by montecarlo

...and doesn't seem to be a K2000D either (K20D facelift or a superior class).

But there's a DA lens on it, this would not be the case if the camera is full-frame.

ogl · 09-05-2008, 01:47 AM

Pentax K20D Review: 1. Introduction: Digital Photography Review
It seems to me it's the same prism and the logo too.
And DA lens on it.

Asahiflex · 09-05-2008, 03:53 AM

Originally posted by Asahiflex

But there's a DA lens on it, this would not be the case if the camera is full-frame.

No, the Pentax name is smaller on the prism. For comparison purposes I resized both photos so that the "Pentax" name has the same size on the prism:

Keep in mind this does not say anything about the body size: I just compared the size of the "Pentax" name

(Adding my 0.02 to the rumors

)

spe · 09-05-2008, 04:43 AM

In fact, this ad says nothing about new camera, except of the fact, that new camera will be shown. That's just "teaser" ad showing some "generic" Pentax DSLR, and not advertising of any particular model just because camera model cannot be recognized.

fejker · 09-05-2008, 05:22 AM

I'm not completely sure but it looks like the camera on the TAXI add doesn't have a built in flash. :P

Okami · 09-05-2008, 06:05 AM

@_@ True, Please be a sign!!

zntgrg · 09-05-2008, 07:33 AM

Maybe K20 "super" could sport a bigger prism [100% coverage and os on]: with such a thing many people would forget FF

Btw, on my 18-55 the "pentax da" line is in at 10/11 o'clock not 12. Maybe just [officially] photoshopped?

Ishpuini · 09-05-2008, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by zntgrg

Maybe K20 "super" could sport a bigger prism [100% coverage and os on]: with such a thing many people would forget FF

Nope, because a K20D Super would certainly retain the same body (it even remained identical between the K10D and the K20D) in order to allow compatibility with all K10D and K20D accessories. Most important in terms of the Prism and viewfinder would be the O-ME53 loupe and the various matte screens.

Wim

jake123 · 09-05-2008, 09:59 AM

Don't forget to have a 3" screen they probably need a bigger body.

vizjerei · 09-05-2008, 10:41 AM

My K2 file body is still waiting for its "D" upgrade

wlachan · 09-05-2008, 12:00 PM

I am hoping they would address the AF performance ahead of anything else, though I don't think they would. If there would be an K20D update, they would probably just toy with the spec once again. Anyway, they are fighting a losing battle as any decisions they have made in recent years were always too little too late.

Spex · 09-05-2008, 12:18 PM

Well, K20D's CMOS sensor is very good, so he'll have either some minor changes (better high ISO) or none at all. Things that really could be better are AF speed, better sensor cleaning system, larger buffer and higher fps. Altough, K100D Super was even less improved than K100D, so maybe I'm asking for too much

Asahiflex · 09-05-2008, 12:29 PM

I for one believe in a K20D super because I still cannot understand why the Live View of the K20D is so bad while the Samsung GX-20 had a useful one. So I also suspect a more refined K20D with several issues addressed (long exposures without noise reduction applied and a better LV implementation). I am sure Pentax is working on a better AF module. Not a faster one, but one with more "brains" (predictive AF, most especially in AF-C mode). It won't take long before Pentax is at Canon-level. And with Samsung in mind I think the availability of fast, big memory buffers is not a problem

alohadave · 09-05-2008, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by fejker

I'm not completely sure but it looks like the camera on the TAXI add doesn't have a built in flash. :P

It looks like there is a round button that would be in the right place to pop up a flash though.

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09-05-2008, 01:40 AM	#16
montecarlo Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 161	...and doesn't seem to be a K2000D either (K20D facelift or a superior class).

09-05-2008, 01:45 AM	#17
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by montecarlo ...and doesn't seem to be a K2000D either (K20D facelift or a superior class). But there's a DA lens on it, this would not be the case if the camera is full-frame.

09-05-2008, 01:47 AM	#18
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Pentax K20D Review: 1. Introduction: Digital Photography Review It seems to me it's the same prism and the logo too. And DA lens on it.

09-05-2008, 03:53 AM	#19
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by Asahiflex But there's a DA lens on it, this would not be the case if the camera is full-frame. No, the Pentax name is smaller on the prism. For comparison purposes I resized both photos so that the "Pentax" name has the same size on the prism: Keep in mind this does not say anything about the body size: I just compared the size of the "Pentax" name (Adding my 0.02 to the rumors )

09-05-2008, 04:43 AM	#20
spe Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lithuania Photos: Gallery Posts: 27	In fact, this ad says nothing about new camera, except of the fact, that new camera will be shown. That's just "teaser" ad showing some "generic" Pentax DSLR, and not advertising of any particular model just because camera model cannot be recognized.

09-05-2008, 05:22 AM	#21
fejker Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Slovenia Photos: Gallery Posts: 258	I'm not completely sure but it looks like the camera on the TAXI add doesn't have a built in flash. :P

09-05-2008, 06:05 AM	#22
Okami Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 376	@_@ True, Please be a sign!!

09-05-2008, 07:33 AM	#23
zntgrg Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Verona, Italy Posts: 202	Maybe K20 "super" could sport a bigger prism [100% coverage and os on]: with such a thing many people would forget FF Btw, on my 18-55 the "pentax da" line is in at 10/11 o'clock not 12. Maybe just [officially] photoshopped?

09-05-2008, 07:40 AM	#24
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	Originally posted by zntgrg Maybe K20 "super" could sport a bigger prism [100% coverage and os on]: with such a thing many people would forget FF Nope, because a K20D Super would certainly retain the same body (it even remained identical between the K10D and the K20D) in order to allow compatibility with all K10D and K20D accessories. Most important in terms of the Prism and viewfinder would be the O-ME53 loupe and the various matte screens. Wim

09-05-2008, 09:59 AM	#25
jake123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 130	Don't forget to have a 3" screen they probably need a bigger body.

09-05-2008, 10:41 AM	#26
vizjerei Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,418	My K2 file body is still waiting for its "D" upgrade

09-05-2008, 12:00 PM	#27
wlachan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Photos: Albums Posts: 2,625	I am hoping they would address the AF performance ahead of anything else, though I don't think they would. If there would be an K20D update, they would probably just toy with the spec once again. Anyway, they are fighting a losing battle as any decisions they have made in recent years were always too little too late.

09-05-2008, 12:18 PM	#28
Spex Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Dubrovnik, Croatia Posts: 216	Well, K20D's CMOS sensor is very good, so he'll have either some minor changes (better high ISO) or none at all. Things that really could be better are AF speed, better sensor cleaning system, larger buffer and higher fps. Altough, K100D Super was even less improved than K100D, so maybe I'm asking for too much

09-05-2008, 12:29 PM	#29
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	I for one believe in a K20D super because I still cannot understand why the Live View of the K20D is so bad while the Samsung GX-20 had a useful one. So I also suspect a more refined K20D with several issues addressed (long exposures without noise reduction applied and a better LV implementation). I am sure Pentax is working on a better AF module. Not a faster one, but one with more "brains" (predictive AF, most especially in AF-C mode). It won't take long before Pentax is at Canon-level. And with Samsung in mind I think the availability of fast, big memory buffers is not a problem

09-05-2008, 01:34 PM	#30
alohadave Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Quincy, MA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,024	Originally posted by fejker I'm not completely sure but it looks like the camera on the TAXI add doesn't have a built in flash. :P It looks like there is a round button that would be in the right place to pop up a flash though.