Pentax K-1 Mark II - Sample Shots (RAW)

kenspo · 04-10-2018, 03:55 AM

Originally posted by repaap

this kind a news are most of us with K-1 original waiting...for the decision of making the upgrade. I’m doing it.edit:
do you know if focus nordick is doing them?

Good Choice

No, but they have organized it. Its Fovi.no in Norway..Dont remember who in the other nordic countries..But I can ask again

Kunzite · 04-10-2018, 04:00 AM

The kind of "some of the noise goes away, details are still there" stop better? If so, that's nice to hear (though not unexpected). Seeing the output from accelerator-equipped cameras, I thought the K-1 would benefit from it, too (and, proof that great minds thinks alike

Pentax did it!)
I'm also assuming the context is poorly lit - with weird light - rock concerts.

I might be doing the upgrade after all... what sort of stops me is the most hideous of problems with my K-1: the dreaded Hand Grip Creak.

**monochrome** · 04-10-2018, 04:00 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

I would say that people who are satisfied with their K-1 cameras won't be upgrading. Those who find the original K-1 cameras to be deficient in some way will look seriously at the K-1 II to see if it will fix the areas they struggle with.

It is no secret the AF-C isn't great on the K-1. For a side shot of flying birds, it might be adequate, but it might not. I'm not shooting BIF so I have a difficult time telling, but I will say that I don't use AF-C much when taking photos of my kids with the K-1 because it feels as though it is often off a little -- even when using the DFA zooms.

I wouldn’t say I’m unsatisfied. I’d simply rather not need a KP to capture my grandchildren taking their first walking steps in addition to the K-1.

kenspo · 04-10-2018, 04:09 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

The kind of "some of the noise goes away, details are still there" stop better? If so, that's nice to hear (though not unexpected).

Yes

Originally posted by Kunzite

I'm also assuming the context is poorly lit - with weird light - rock concerts.

Bad lights, LED, a lot of smoke etc

Originally posted by Kunzite

I might be doing the upgrade after all... what sort of stops me is the most hideous of problems with my K-1: the dreaded Hand Grip Creak.

Say what? hehe...Maybe sell K-1 and buy a new K-1II?

repaap · 04-10-2018, 04:20 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by kenspo

Good Choice

No, but they have organized it. Its Fovi.no in Norway..Dont remember who in the other nordic countries..But I can ask again

okay! thanks!

LennyBloke · 04-10-2018, 04:51 AM - **1 Like**

The opinions from experience of real photographers like Kenspo are worth more than most tests you'll ever read, there are a few Pentaxians that I absorb the opinions of and in time I usually agree with them.

I traded my K1 in for a K1 II, not for any deficiency reason (it is a superb camera IMO) but for the areas of evolutionary improvement stated by Ricoh in their marketing. I'm not competent enough to test and give hard facts and figures on how much better (or not) the new version may be, but from my couple of weeks of shooting I would share the view that high ISO is at least 1 stop better and the Autofocus seems quicker to lock-on to subjects. I don't think we're going to be able to definitively prove that Birds in Flight shots will be captured n% more often with the MkII for some time, and even high ISO comparisons are a bit subjective (the images are manipulated/smoothed/pre-processed by the camera) so the "look" may not be to the taste of everyone.

The K1 II is an evolution not a revolution (a favourite phrase often applicable to Pentax) and it is not time for everyone to ditch their first generation models, just do it if you want to

p.s. When I say "Real Photographers" I am not trying to run anyone down - I'm just talking about people who do it professionally, semi-professionally, and the like who have a lot of everyday experience in the field - Not like me who takes several thousand images of averageness and below per year

Andrea K · 04-10-2018, 05:21 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by kenspo

Exactly. Real life experience is whats matter!!

I think that the real life experience is subjective and that a DxO test is meaningless... I think more in an easily understandable side by side comparison, as DPR.

However I think that most is a "lost in translation" discussion, I'm really happy to read your impressions but for my way of thinking I have to see instead of read.

Kunzite · 04-10-2018, 05:34 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

Say what? hehe...Maybe sell K-1 and buy a new K-1II?

This is an option, too - assuming I won't lose much money.
Anyone wants to buy a K-1 with the dreaded Hand Grip Creak syndrome?

jcdoss · 04-10-2018, 05:42 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by kenspo

...but when I'm back, Im gonna do some big ass prints...

Just out of curiosity, who's ass?

thibs · 04-10-2018, 06:28 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

This is an option, too - assuming I won't lose much money.
Anyone wants to buy a K-1 with the dreaded Hand Grip Creak syndrome?

Hand grip creak? Not aware of this...

Kunzite · 04-10-2018, 06:32 AM - **1 Like**

Happened with a few K-1s... as you squeeze the hand grip's bottom section (below the IR sensor), it "give way" a bit with a very slight creak. Apparently it doesn't affect weather sealing.

SSGGeezer · 04-10-2018, 06:34 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Andrea K

I think that the real life experience is subjective and that a DxO test is meaningless... I think more in an easily understandable side by side comparison, as DPR.

However I think that most is a "lost in translation" discussion, I'm really happy to read your impressions but for my way of thinking I have to see instead of read.

If you believe that DPR is the end all be all for DSLR information you are just lowering your credibility here since they can't even get simple facts correct when discussing Pentax.

Gimbal · 04-10-2018, 06:55 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by jcdoss

Just out of curiosity, who's ass?

Ass prints he says, could be interesting. What kind of event is this I wonder.

photoptimist · 04-10-2018, 07:58 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Gimbal

Ass prints he says, could be interesting. What kind of event is this I wonder.

Perhaps it's low-key donkeys? Maybe some B&W burros?

(As long as there's no animal husbandry, it will be alright.)

Andrea K · 04-10-2018, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by SSGGeezer

If you believe that DPR is the end all be all for DSLR information you are just lowering your credibility here since they can't even get simple facts correct when discussing Pentax.

No, DPR is in my black list . I mean "as DPR" with their studio scene, I can also sadly add that the only ISO comparison will be that from DPR and this makes me mad because RICOH seems their sworn enemy. I think that us, as Pentaxians, have to avoid this and produce a reliable comparison.

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04-10-2018, 03:55 AM	#31
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by repaap this kind a news are most of us with K-1 original waiting...for the decision of making the upgrade. I’m doing it.edit: do you know if focus nordick is doing them? Good Choice No, but they have organized it. Its Fovi.no in Norway..Dont remember who in the other nordic countries..But I can ask again

04-10-2018, 04:00 AM	#32
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	The kind of "some of the noise goes away, details are still there" stop better? If so, that's nice to hear (though not unexpected). Seeing the output from accelerator-equipped cameras, I thought the K-1 would benefit from it, too (and, proof that great minds thinks alike Pentax did it!) I'm also assuming the context is poorly lit - with weird light - rock concerts. I might be doing the upgrade after all... what sort of stops me is the most hideous of problems with my K-1: the dreaded Hand Grip Creak.

04-10-2018, 04:00 AM	#33
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Rondec I would say that people who are satisfied with their K-1 cameras won't be upgrading. Those who find the original K-1 cameras to be deficient in some way will look seriously at the K-1 II to see if it will fix the areas they struggle with. It is no secret the AF-C isn't great on the K-1. For a side shot of flying birds, it might be adequate, but it might not. I'm not shooting BIF so I have a difficult time telling, but I will say that I don't use AF-C much when taking photos of my kids with the K-1 because it feels as though it is often off a little -- even when using the DFA zooms. I wouldn’t say I’m unsatisfied. I’d simply rather not need a KP to capture my grandchildren taking their first walking steps in addition to the K-1.

04-10-2018, 04:09 AM	#34
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by Kunzite The kind of "some of the noise goes away, details are still there" stop better? If so, that's nice to hear (though not unexpected). Yes Originally posted by Kunzite I'm also assuming the context is poorly lit - with weird light - rock concerts. Bad lights, LED, a lot of smoke etc Originally posted by Kunzite I might be doing the upgrade after all... what sort of stops me is the most hideous of problems with my K-1: the dreaded Hand Grip Creak. Say what? hehe...Maybe sell K-1 and buy a new K-1II?

04-10-2018, 04:20 AM - 1 Like	#35
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Originally posted by kenspo Good Choice No, but they have organized it. Its Fovi.no in Norway..Dont remember who in the other nordic countries..But I can ask again okay! thanks!

04-10-2018, 04:51 AM - 1 Like	#36
LennyBloke Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Worcestershire, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 677	The opinions from experience of real photographers like Kenspo are worth more than most tests you'll ever read, there are a few Pentaxians that I absorb the opinions of and in time I usually agree with them. I traded my K1 in for a K1 II, not for any deficiency reason (it is a superb camera IMO) but for the areas of evolutionary improvement stated by Ricoh in their marketing. I'm not competent enough to test and give hard facts and figures on how much better (or not) the new version may be, but from my couple of weeks of shooting I would share the view that high ISO is at least 1 stop better and the Autofocus seems quicker to lock-on to subjects. I don't think we're going to be able to definitively prove that Birds in Flight shots will be captured n% more often with the MkII for some time, and even high ISO comparisons are a bit subjective (the images are manipulated/smoothed/pre-processed by the camera) so the "look" may not be to the taste of everyone. The K1 II is an evolution not a revolution (a favourite phrase often applicable to Pentax) and it is not time for everyone to ditch their first generation models, just do it if you want to p.s. When I say "Real Photographers" I am not trying to run anyone down - I'm just talking about people who do it professionally, semi-professionally, and the like who have a lot of everyday experience in the field - Not like me who takes several thousand images of averageness and below per year

04-10-2018, 05:21 AM - 1 Like	#37
Andrea K Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 822	Originally posted by kenspo Exactly. Real life experience is whats matter!! I think that the real life experience is subjective and that a DxO test is meaningless... I think more in an easily understandable side by side comparison, as DPR. However I think that most is a "lost in translation" discussion, I'm really happy to read your impressions but for my way of thinking I have to see instead of read.

04-10-2018, 05:34 AM	#38
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by kenspo Say what? hehe...Maybe sell K-1 and buy a new K-1II? This is an option, too - assuming I won't lose much money. Anyone wants to buy a K-1 with the dreaded Hand Grip Creak syndrome?

04-10-2018, 05:42 AM - 3 Likes	#39
jcdoss Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Ingelheim am Rhein, Germany Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,768	Originally posted by kenspo ...but when I'm back, Im gonna do some big ass prints... Just out of curiosity, who's ass?

04-10-2018, 06:28 AM	#40
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Kunzite This is an option, too - assuming I won't lose much money. Anyone wants to buy a K-1 with the dreaded Hand Grip Creak syndrome? Hand grip creak? Not aware of this...

04-10-2018, 06:32 AM - 1 Like	#41
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Happened with a few K-1s... as you squeeze the hand grip's bottom section (below the IR sensor), it "give way" a bit with a very slight creak. Apparently it doesn't affect weather sealing.

04-10-2018, 06:34 AM - 1 Like	#42
SSGGeezer Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Indiana, U.S. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,845	Originally posted by Andrea K I think that the real life experience is subjective and that a DxO test is meaningless... I think more in an easily understandable side by side comparison, as DPR. However I think that most is a "lost in translation" discussion, I'm really happy to read your impressions but for my way of thinking I have to see instead of read. If you believe that DPR is the end all be all for DSLR information you are just lowering your credibility here since they can't even get simple facts correct when discussing Pentax.

04-10-2018, 06:55 AM - 3 Likes	#43
Gimbal Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,106	Originally posted by jcdoss Just out of curiosity, who's ass? Ass prints he says, could be interesting. What kind of event is this I wonder.

04-10-2018, 07:58 AM - 2 Likes	#44
photoptimist Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,122	Originally posted by Gimbal Ass prints he says, could be interesting. What kind of event is this I wonder. Perhaps it's low-key donkeys? Maybe some B&W burros? (As long as there's no animal husbandry, it will be alright.)

04-10-2018, 08:45 AM	#45
Andrea K Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 822	Originally posted by SSGGeezer If you believe that DPR is the end all be all for DSLR information you are just lowering your credibility here since they can't even get simple facts correct when discussing Pentax. No, DPR is in my black list . I mean "as DPR" with their studio scene, I can also sadly add that the only ISO comparison will be that from DPR and this makes me mad because RICOH seems their sworn enemy. I think that us, as Pentaxians, have to avoid this and produce a reliable comparison.