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06-05-2018, 01:14 PM   #76
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I'm going to need to label this thread "Not Work Safe" if things progress any further

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QuoteOriginally posted by TheGrandPrixKid Quote
Amateur Photographer has just Predicted end Pentax. Article written by Andy Westlake who is Technical Editor
Just because one employee gets an editorial published in a magazine, doesn't mean it's endorsed by the magazine and its publisher. Westlake can be terminated for liable if he's puts petrol on the coals.

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A former DPReview reviewer, wrote that the slow down in the release of new lenses, camera bodies and Ricoh's reluctance to enter the mirrorless market will lead to the demise of Pentax due to lack of research and development.
A company closing shop does NOT release new cameras and lenses. They do not put full page back cover ads on Outdoor Photographer. Saying Ricoh's reluctance to enter the mirrorless market will lead to their demise is like saying a small car company like Mazda's reluctance to enter the hybrid/electric market will lead to their demise. Eastman Kodak had no reluctance to research and develop digital photography. Did that predict their future success?

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He says quote "Pentax isn't even a company in its own right any more" pointing to Pentax just being a brand name used by Ricoh.
Many brands are owned by parent companies. Nikon, Subaru, Jeep, etc. Although I subjectively like the Pentax moniker, who cares if it's actually owned by Ricoh or Amazon?

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Anyone else read the article or have any thoughts?
When I got the official government text alert that "BALLISTIC MISSILE THREAT INBOUND TO HAWAII. SEEK IMMEDIATE SHELTER. THIS IS NOT A DRILL." it still didn't mean it was real. And before Ricoh kills the Pentax brand, they would sell it to the next highest bidder. Unless that bidder is Canon, Sony, or Nikon, the name and system will continue with the expected ups and downs.
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It's a "WAG".
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before Ricoh kills the Pentax brand, they would sell it to the next highest bidder. Unless that bidder is Canon, Sony, or Nikon, the name and system will continue with the expected ups and downs.
That's the best and most relevant comment in the thread so far.

Even if - and I very much doubt this will be the case - Ricoh was to retire from Pentax, there would be demand to buy the operation. We may be a small segment of the overall digital photography market, but we're significant - and remarkably loyal. We have money to spend, cameras and lenses to buy. Anyone reading just a smattering of recent threads here on PF can verify that quite easily.

Pentax survived the Hoya years and a shift to Ricoh just fine. I'm certain the same would be true in the event that Ricoh should pull out.

Unprofessional and potentially damaging though it is, it'll take more than Andy Westlake's opinion in Amateur Photographer to kill Pentax. Hell hath no fury...

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It sort of tingles and not in a good way.
Makes me think of the blown out discs in my neck and right arm.....
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Makes me think of the blown out discs in my neck and right arm.....
Those are probably a lot worse.
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Anyone else read the article or have any thoughts?
This is a self fulfilling prophecy. The more people propagates negative information about Pentax (true or not, doesn't matter), the more harm is done to sales of Pentax cameras.
Due to lack of faith in Pentax (they are not seeing new products rolled out), the last Pentax dealer in my area has stopped sourcing new Pentax models, the Pentax K1 was the last model, they did not source the KP, nor the K1 II. I asked if you would have a K1 II for demo, they said they don't know, and when I asked them about the DFA50 they also said they don't know, and they recommended me to get a Sony A7III. I asked about the K3 successor and they recommended a Nikon D500. I'll check again later if I can get them to order the K1 II.

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Would I be Sigma, I would acquire Pentax in the case the company goes into distressed stage.
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It's a "WAG".
SWAG= Stupid WAG
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May good idea to someone who start this topic take mild antidepressants
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Amateur Pornographer? haven't read that rag for years, it has always managed to miss a very low bar when it comes to amateur photography magazines. If they said it was Tuesday, I'd reach for the calendar to check.
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I predict Amateur Photography dies before Pentax does.
I second that.
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Pentax is Doomed, Doomed I say!
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I stopped reading all those bought and paid for photography rags years ago. Biased reviews that were already decided before they even started. Trite worthless technical advice that really has no value in the real world. DPR, like the photo rags only gives positive reviews to those that grease their palms. I am old enough and smart enough to make my decisions on my own. I do not need a bunch of bought and paid for fan boys telling me what I should buy. Pentax is doing quite well for a company that has been doomed for the last twenty years.
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They’re still registering new batteries (GRIII), they’re still releasing new lenses, I suspect they’re working on a new APSc flagship. At the moment Ricoh probably isn’t offering them any capital for new Plant and Equipment, which I suspect is the real reason there isn’t a mirrorless. I don’t think they’re losing money on digital imaging, so why quit?
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