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D1N0 · 09-21-2018, 03:10 AM

Should be €999,- in Europe then.

**ffking** · 09-21-2018, 03:34 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

Should be €999,- in Europe then.

And £999 in the UK

RonHendriks1966 · 09-21-2018, 06:47 AM

Originally posted by beholder3

Consequently I bet the current wishful thinking price of the Tokina rebadged lens will drop quickly to around $800 street price, then it would be balanced with the Pentax price.

except for the Pentaxians using k-mount not having this cheaper option.

beholder3 · 09-21-2018, 06:58 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

except for the Pentaxians using k-mount not having this cheaper option.

And all the sad little Canikons don't have a native 1st party option.

Pentaxians are on the way better side, especially now that the price of the Tokina rebadge is still ridiculously high.

But yeah, I know we'll have whiners all along, regardless of the superior option.

RonHendriks1966 · 09-21-2018, 07:24 AM

Originally posted by beholder3

And all the sad little Canikons don't have a native 1st party option.

Pentaxians are on the way better side, especially now that the price of the Tokina rebadge is still ridiculously high.

But yeah, I know we'll have whiners all along, regardless of the superior option.

For Canon there is for almost the same money the 50mm/f1.2 lens. Or if you go mirrorless the rf-mount brings a 50mm/f1.2 for 2539 euro.....

Franc · 09-21-2018, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

Should be €999,- in Europe then.

not much difference with the price i paid for the dfa*50, just €100 more

beholder3 · 09-21-2018, 07:41 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

For Canon there is for almost the same money the 50mm/f1.2 lens. Or if you go mirrorless the rf-mount brings a 50mm/f1.2 for 2539 euro.....

Yes, that is exactly what I meant. The poor Canonians only have a 1350 EUR 50L with the optical performance of a 200 EUR FA 50 and an autofocus slower than the slowest Pentax lens which also has serious non-correctable focus issues on some of their bodies.

Or they have to pay +1340 EUR premium (so you can get 2x Pentax DFA* for the price of one Canon) for 0.4 more stops light in a lens which isn't even internal focusing.

Life clearly is good as Pentax user.

Go tell us about your most recent top line 50mm lens that you own and use and show some images. Or are you just trolling here?

RonHendriks1966 · 09-21-2018, 08:00 AM

Originally posted by beholder3

Go tell us about your most recent top line 50mm lens that you own and use and show some images. Or are you just trolling here?

In The Netherlands we don't have trolls, we have Laven.
laven - Google Search

I was very surprised about the price for the rf-mount lens.....

JPT · 09-21-2018, 08:09 AM - **2 Likes**

Canon and Nikon can get a similar lens, but it's not the same. It will have different coatings, barrel finish, and critically won't be stabilized. Also, it bothers me with third party lenses that there's no one company to hold accountable if the lens doesn't work well with the camera now or after a future firmware update. I think Pentax users are getting the better deal here.

D1N0 · 09-21-2018, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by Franc

just €100 more

I am not talking about the price at a certain rogue retailer.

HD PENTAX-D FA* 50mm F1.4 SDM AW

Kunzite · 09-21-2018, 08:35 AM

The price difference is small enough to be covered by a mere discount.

surfar · 09-21-2018, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by beholder3

Photographers around the world do not (never did) value 3rd party glass like Tamron, Sigma, Tokina.

What world is that?

**Pål Jensen** · 09-21-2018, 04:23 PM

The real world...

Rico · 09-21-2018, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

The real world...

Very Funny. :^)

**bobbotron** · 09-21-2018, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by Mistral75

The Tokina opera 50mm f/1.4 FF was just announced and its optical formula and autofocus motor are indeed the same as those of the HD Pentax-D FA★ 50mm f/1.4 SDM AW.

Tokina - opera 50mm F1.4 FF

Optical formula... coatings, or just the picture of the lens elements?

Ps: I'm sure they're both nice, but if I was buying new, I'd buy the pentax, thanks!

09-21-2018, 08:00 AM	#98
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by beholder3 Go tell us about your most recent top line 50mm lens that you own and use and show some images. Or are you just trolling here? In The Netherlands we don't have trolls, we have Laven. laven - Google Search I was very surprised about the price for the rf-mount lens..... Last edited by RonHendriks1966; 09-21-2018 at 08:06 AM.

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09-21-2018, 03:10 AM	#91
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Should be €999,- in Europe then.

09-21-2018, 03:34 AM	#92
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,039	Originally posted by D1N0 Should be €999,- in Europe then. And £999 in the UK

09-21-2018, 06:47 AM	#93
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by beholder3 Consequently I bet the current wishful thinking price of the Tokina rebadged lens will drop quickly to around $800 street price, then it would be balanced with the Pentax price. except for the Pentaxians using k-mount not having this cheaper option.

09-21-2018, 06:58 AM - 3 Likes	#94
beholder3 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,112	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 except for the Pentaxians using k-mount not having this cheaper option. And all the sad little Canikons don't have a native 1st party option. Pentaxians are on the way better side, especially now that the price of the Tokina rebadge is still ridiculously high. But yeah, I know we'll have whiners all along, regardless of the superior option.

09-21-2018, 07:24 AM	#95
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by beholder3 And all the sad little Canikons don't have a native 1st party option. Pentaxians are on the way better side, especially now that the price of the Tokina rebadge is still ridiculously high. But yeah, I know we'll have whiners all along, regardless of the superior option. For Canon there is for almost the same money the 50mm/f1.2 lens. Or if you go mirrorless the rf-mount brings a 50mm/f1.2 for 2539 euro.....

09-21-2018, 07:37 AM	#96
Franc Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hoevelaken Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,214	Originally posted by D1N0 Should be €999,- in Europe then. not much difference with the price i paid for the dfa*50, just €100 more

09-21-2018, 07:41 AM - 2 Likes	#97
beholder3 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,112	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 For Canon there is for almost the same money the 50mm/f1.2 lens. Or if you go mirrorless the rf-mount brings a 50mm/f1.2 for 2539 euro..... Yes, that is exactly what I meant. The poor Canonians only have a 1350 EUR 50L with the optical performance of a 200 EUR FA 50 and an autofocus slower than the slowest Pentax lens which also has serious non-correctable focus issues on some of their bodies. Or they have to pay +1340 EUR premium (so you can get 2x Pentax DFA* for the price of one Canon) for 0.4 more stops light in a lens which isn't even internal focusing. Life clearly is good as Pentax user. Go tell us about your most recent top line 50mm lens that you own and use and show some images. Or are you just trolling here?

09-21-2018, 08:09 AM - 2 Likes	#99
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821	Canon and Nikon can get a similar lens, but it's not the same. It will have different coatings, barrel finish, and critically won't be stabilized. Also, it bothers me with third party lenses that there's no one company to hold accountable if the lens doesn't work well with the camera now or after a future firmware update. I think Pentax users are getting the better deal here.

09-21-2018, 08:30 AM	#100
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by Franc just €100 more I am not talking about the price at a certain rogue retailer. HD PENTAX-D FA* 50mm F1.4 SDM AW

09-21-2018, 08:35 AM	#101
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	The price difference is small enough to be covered by a mere discount.

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surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,147	Originally posted by beholder3 Photographers around the world do not (never did) value 3rd party glass like Tamron, Sigma, Tokina. What world is that?

09-21-2018, 04:23 PM	#103
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	The real world...

09-21-2018, 04:39 PM	#104
Rico Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,205	Originally posted by Pål Jensen The real world... Very Funny. :^)

09-21-2018, 04:49 PM	#105
bobbotron Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Ottawa, ON Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,349	Originally posted by Mistral75 The Tokina opera 50mm f/1.4 FF was just announced and its optical formula and autofocus motor are indeed the same as those of the HD Pentax-D FA★ 50mm f/1.4 SDM AW. Tokina - opera 50mm F1.4 FF Optical formula... coatings, or just the picture of the lens elements? Ps: I'm sure they're both nice, but if I was buying new, I'd buy the pentax, thanks!

Pentax D FA* 50mm f1.4 and Tokina Opera 50mm f1.4

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