DPReview manages to do a negative review of the DFA*50

**BigMackCam** · 08-14-2018, 05:01 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by clackers

Because there are cues missing in the written form compared to face to face conversation, Mark, it's real important to pay attention to them.

And somebody that doesn't use them is in real risk of being misinterpreted, they better nail their prose.

Totally agree.

Smileys add inflection, context and meaning that - while sometimes abused and, in any case, still a poor substitute for face-to-face discussion - is often sadly missing from many texts, e-mails, social media, forums and the like. They're a pretty essential tool, both in use and interpretation

Last edited by BigMackCam; 08-14-2018 at 05:07 PM.

**clackers** · 08-14-2018, 06:30 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by BigMackCam

Totally agree.

Smileys add inflection, context and meaning that - while sometimes abused and, in any case, still a poor substitute for face-to-face discussion - is often sadly missing from many texts, e-mails, social media, forums and the like. They're a pretty essential tool, both in use and interpretation

Yes, you're great at all that, Mike.

If I read what some troll has written (dimwits I can tolerate), but you've put in a post elegantly redressing it, I for one will leave it at that and won't add to the thread, I'm sure others do the same.

For some of the News and Rumours threads, there almost needs to be kind of a Bat Signal, the lamp up into the clouds, calling you to an emergency.

willeisner · 08-14-2018, 06:55 PM

review, biased, in my opinion focus on the negative aspects, wrong information, this lens is a Pentax drawing. This is not the first time that this site does this the analysis of the pixelshift was the same thing.

Mark Ransom · 08-14-2018, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by clackers

Because there are cues missing in the written form compared to face to face conversation, Mark, it's real important to pay attention to them.

And somebody that doesn't use them is in real risk of being misinterpreted, they better nail their prose.

I'm just telling you what it is, not how it should be. I know all too well how easy it is to misinterpret or be misinterpreted online.

**clackers** · 08-14-2018, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by Mark Ransom

I'm just telling you what it is, not how it should be. I know all too well how easy it is to misinterpret or be misinterpreted online.

Well, this is in your realm to change, no?

"I've always been somewhat blind to smileys,"

Mark Ransom · 08-15-2018, 06:44 AM

Originally posted by clackers

Well, this is in your realm to change, no?

"I've always been somewhat blind to smileys,"

Absolutely, and I'm much better at it today than I was say 10 years ago. It helps when forums such as this make them brightly colored to stand out.

**BigMackCam** · 08-15-2018, 02:52 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by clackers

Yes, you're great at all that, Mike.

If I read what some troll has written (dimwits I can tolerate), but you've put in a post elegantly redressing it, I for one will leave it at that and won't add to the thread, I'm sure others do the same.

For some of the News and Rumours threads, there almost needs to be kind of a Bat Signal, the lamp up into the clouds, calling you to an emergency.

LOL

You're too kind... you'll have me blushing

I don't think I'd look good in a lycra bat-suit, though. We might want @MarkJerling for that... loves a bit of lycra, does our Mark

surfar · 08-15-2018, 03:29 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by BigMackCam

We might want @MarkJerling for that... loves a bit of lycra,

Yeah, he loves those Wallabies in Lycra jumping out of his wardrobe!

fsge · 08-15-2018, 03:37 PM - **1 Like**

DPReview is more and more junk material.
And i even dont include the prehistoric architecture of their forum...

MarkJerling · 08-15-2018, 04:22 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by BigMackCam

LOL

You're too kind... you'll have me blushing

I don't think I'd look good in a lycra bat-suit, though. We might want @MarkJerling for that... loves a bit of lycra, does our Mark

I wear it well. What can it say!

bass3587 · 08-16-2018, 04:27 PM

Wow! 17 pages and I've yet to read review by DPwho?? I have know doubt they could tell a diamond from polished rubyq

zapp · 08-18-2018, 06:05 AM - **1 Like**

It is more interesting what the review is lacking. No compains about slow AF, sharpness, bokeh was actually assessed positively...
Some poor DPR person had to work with a Pentax camera that he cannot comment on in a lens review and was presented with a really good lens. I even assume that Pentax made DPA buy the lens this time :-) Maybe the same person was denied the travel for the Nikon hands-on preview. Even worse the Pentax lens performed well. For a totally upset reviewer, the wording is still OK.

Kunzite · 08-18-2018, 06:12 AM

There is a complain about slow AF (if you read carefully, it's the K-1's slow AF - not the lens').

Not a Number · 08-18-2018, 07:55 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

There is a complain about slow AF (if you read carefully, it's the K-1's slow AF - not the lens').

If the K-1 AF is slow, then AF with any lens including the DFA*50 on the K-1 should be slow.

Kunzite · 08-18-2018, 07:59 AM - **2 Likes**

Well, we know it can track dragonflies in flight, swallows in flight, race cars, motorbikes on track, airplanes - but it just doesn't work for really fast things like bikes and toddlers.

08-14-2018, 06:30 PM - 2 Likes	#242
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by BigMackCam Totally agree. Smileys add inflection, context and meaning that - while sometimes abused and, in any case, still a poor substitute for face-to-face discussion - is often sadly missing from many texts, e-mails, social media, forums and the like. They're a pretty essential tool, both in use and interpretation Yes, you're great at all that, Mike. If I read what some troll has written (dimwits I can tolerate), but you've put in a post elegantly redressing it, I for one will leave it at that and won't add to the thread, I'm sure others do the same. For some of the News and Rumours threads, there almost needs to be kind of a Bat Signal, the lamp up into the clouds, calling you to an emergency. Last edited by clackers; 08-14-2018 at 06:35 PM.

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08-14-2018, 05:01 PM - 1 Like	#241
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,645	Originally posted by clackers Because there are cues missing in the written form compared to face to face conversation, Mark, it's real important to pay attention to them. And somebody that doesn't use them is in real risk of being misinterpreted, they better nail their prose. Totally agree. Smileys add inflection, context and meaning that - while sometimes abused and, in any case, still a poor substitute for face-to-face discussion - is often sadly missing from many texts, e-mails, social media, forums and the like. They're a pretty essential tool, both in use and interpretation Last edited by BigMackCam; 08-14-2018 at 05:07 PM.

08-14-2018, 06:55 PM	#243
willeisner Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Photos: Gallery Posts: 122	review, biased, in my opinion focus on the negative aspects, wrong information, this lens is a Pentax drawing. This is not the first time that this site does this the analysis of the pixelshift was the same thing.

08-14-2018, 08:43 PM	#244
Mark Ransom Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 498	Originally posted by clackers Because there are cues missing in the written form compared to face to face conversation, Mark, it's real important to pay attention to them. And somebody that doesn't use them is in real risk of being misinterpreted, they better nail their prose. I'm just telling you what it is, not how it should be. I know all too well how easy it is to misinterpret or be misinterpreted online.

08-14-2018, 08:47 PM	#245
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by Mark Ransom I'm just telling you what it is, not how it should be. I know all too well how easy it is to misinterpret or be misinterpreted online. Well, this is in your realm to change, no? "I've always been somewhat blind to smileys,"

08-15-2018, 06:44 AM	#246
Mark Ransom Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 498	Originally posted by clackers Well, this is in your realm to change, no? "I've always been somewhat blind to smileys," Absolutely, and I'm much better at it today than I was say 10 years ago. It helps when forums such as this make them brightly colored to stand out.

08-15-2018, 02:52 PM - 2 Likes	#247
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,645	Originally posted by clackers Yes, you're great at all that, Mike. If I read what some troll has written (dimwits I can tolerate), but you've put in a post elegantly redressing it, I for one will leave it at that and won't add to the thread, I'm sure others do the same. For some of the News and Rumours threads, there almost needs to be kind of a Bat Signal, the lamp up into the clouds, calling you to an emergency. LOL You're too kind... you'll have me blushing I don't think I'd look good in a lycra bat-suit, though. We might want @MarkJerling for that... loves a bit of lycra, does our Mark

08-15-2018, 03:29 PM - 2 Likes	#248
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,137	Originally posted by BigMackCam We might want @MarkJerling for that... loves a bit of lycra, Yeah, he loves those Wallabies in Lycra jumping out of his wardrobe!

08-15-2018, 03:37 PM - 1 Like	#249
fsge Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Genf Posts: 1,138	DPReview is more and more junk material. And i even dont include the prehistoric architecture of their forum...

08-15-2018, 04:22 PM - 2 Likes	#250
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,402	Originally posted by BigMackCam LOL You're too kind... you'll have me blushing I don't think I'd look good in a lycra bat-suit, though. We might want @MarkJerling for that... loves a bit of lycra, does our Mark I wear it well. What can it say!

08-16-2018, 04:27 PM	#251
bass3587 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 517	Wow! 17 pages and I've yet to read review by DPwho?? I have know doubt they could tell a diamond from polished rubyq

08-18-2018, 06:05 AM - 1 Like	#252
zapp Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,385	It is more interesting what the review is lacking. No compains about slow AF, sharpness, bokeh was actually assessed positively... Some poor DPR person had to work with a Pentax camera that he cannot comment on in a lens review and was presented with a really good lens. I even assume that Pentax made DPA buy the lens this time :-) Maybe the same person was denied the travel for the Nikon hands-on preview. Even worse the Pentax lens performed well. For a totally upset reviewer, the wording is still OK.

08-18-2018, 06:12 AM	#253
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	There is a complain about slow AF (if you read carefully, it's the K-1's slow AF - not the lens').

08-18-2018, 07:55 AM	#254
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,525	Originally posted by Kunzite There is a complain about slow AF (if you read carefully, it's the K-1's slow AF - not the lens'). If the K-1 AF is slow, then AF with any lens including the DFA*50 on the K-1 should be slow.

08-18-2018, 07:59 AM - 2 Likes	#255
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Well, we know it can track dragonflies in flight, swallows in flight, race cars, motorbikes on track, airplanes - but it just doesn't work for really fast things like bikes and toddlers.

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