Official Pentax Germany release

k100d · 09-19-2008, 11:20 AM

arg... the amazon page is gone now. did any one see the weight?
i'd love to step up from the K100D to the K-M as a travel camera. Just the K-M + DA*55 would be quite the combination for me.

m8o · 09-19-2008, 11:24 AM

DE links gone in a flash! Thanx ghelary for catching it and givinng us the xlation.

wow, well this thread certainly got a lot of traction in the past few hours!

quarc · 09-19-2008, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by paolojackson

so....what now? whats the next big event that will have the forums going crazy ...lol

The zinger they have saved for mid next week ? ;-)

mattdm · 09-19-2008, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by ibk

Neither of those. Something new and unique to Pentax digital cameras. ... and by the way, it's the default option

Oh, please, please tell me they implemented my hyperfocal mode idea!

claude21 · 09-19-2008, 11:31 AM

I think theses new lens are way overpriced. The tamron 70-200 f2.8 sell for nearly 50 % less is FF and faster.

A new entry body is nice for gaining market share, but what for us K10D owners ?
Thoses like me who buy it 2 years ago need a refresh and that's clearly not the k20d.

I've hopes for a new advanced body, not necesseraly FF but an D300 type should fit perfectly. It's sad but I really thinking to move to nikon now.

Pentax is really going crazy.

Alfisti · 09-19-2008, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by GaryM

Hey, I like both of those camera bodies quite a bit, but from a marketing standpoint I have to agree with you. Hopefully the Km turns out to be a step in the right direction.

I used the 20D at a show and just loved using it but i simply cannot imagine carrying it for a day. It is super useable though, they have that thign sorted that's for sure.

If they refine the sensor, add a larger screen, improve the FPS, add movie mode (along with proper live view) and improve the SR then I guess they could call it a K30.

Miserere · 09-19-2008, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by claude21

[...] but what for us K10D owners ?
Thoses like me who buy it 2 years ago need a refresh and that's clearly not the k20d.

I've hopes for a new advanced body, not necesseraly FF but an D300 type should fit perfectly. It's sad but I really thinking to move to nikon now.

Pentax is really going crazy.

I agree! I've had the K10D for a while and I'm starting to notice that it's not always taking photos, and those that it does take are getting crappier every day. I must need a new body. Yeah, that's got to be it...

Sarcasm OFF.

Mr. The Guy · 09-19-2008, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by séamuis

that 55 would by optic design be FF right?

Wrong. This lens is to replace a classic 85mm portrait lens. FF is not in Pentax's plans. Get over it.

k100d · 09-19-2008, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by Alfisti

I used the 20D at a show and just loved using it but i simply cannot imagine carrying it for a day. It is super useable though, they have that thign sorted that's for sure.

If they refine the sensor, add a larger screen, improve the FPS, add movie mode (along with proper live view) and improve the SR then I guess they could call it a K30.

the K20D isn't that much heavier / bigger than the K100D. the difference is like 200g which is like one kit lens

séamuis · 09-19-2008, 11:46 AM

Quote:

I agree! I've had the K10D for a while and I'm starting to notice that it's not always taking photos, and those that it does take are getting crappier every day. I must need a new body. Yeah, that's got to be it...

haha! yea pretty much what I would have said.

what is a 'refresh', and why do you need it?

mattdm · 09-19-2008, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by Edvinas

Note, that they say it's the smallest DSLR with in-camera SR. This means that Pentax K-m is larger than Olympus E-420.

But it also means smaller than the E-520, which is still pretty little.

Quote:

BTW, what is the point to make sealed cheap body when cheapos DA L kit lenses will leak water and dust through all holes?

Yeah, that seems like a customer service disaster waiting to happen. I'm surprised to not see a weather-sealed kit lens.

mattdm · 09-19-2008, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by pghwarrior23

Did someone say there is no top LCD? I rely on mine so much...how would you do without it? Or is it assuming that P&S converters won't care because they don't have one now anyway?

I rarely look at mine. I want the information to be in the viewfinder, and if it's not important enough to be there, I don't care if it's on the back LCD screen.

Asahiflex · 09-19-2008, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by mattdm

But it also means smaller than the E-520, which is still pretty little.

Pentax K-m
122.5 mm x 91.5 mm x 67.5 mm

K200D
133.5mm x 95mm x 74mm

*istD
129mm × 94.5mm × 60mm

Olympus-420
129.5 x 91 x 53 mm

Pana G1
124 mm x 84 mm x 45 mm

séamuis · 09-19-2008, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Wrong. This lens is to replace a classic 85mm portrait lens. FF is not in Pentax's plans. Get over it.

excuse me? get over what? do you know me? Im not pushing full frame, I have my MX and film for that. try not making an ass of yourself by making stupid assumptions.

I was talking about does it cover the full 24x36mm frame. from what I understand at 55mm it should, thus making it possible to use on a PZ-1p I was thinking of purchasing. I wasn't asking if this lens is meant as a FF lens for such a future body. *******.<- ill leave you to guess what that said.

by the way does cowtown mean Ft. Worth? if so I definitely don't like you now, that's my hometown.

claude21 · 09-19-2008, 11:56 AM

Faster AF ?
AF tracking ?
No banding at high iso ?
Hi res LCD ?
Possibly more fps ?

Yeah that's just nikon.

@Miserere

Actually, I've send my K10D to pentax for repairs, so no, it doesn't make any photos. Moreover, banding and titled pictures is not what I expect from an DSLR sorry.

09-19-2008, 11:44 AM	#158
Mr. The Guy Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Vilcabamba, Loja Posts: 216	Please STOP IT! Originally posted by séamuis that 55 would by optic design be FF right? Wrong. This lens is to replace a classic 85mm portrait lens. FF is not in Pentax's plans. Get over it.

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09-19-2008, 11:20 AM	#151
k100d Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,911	arg... the amazon page is gone now. did any one see the weight? i'd love to step up from the K100D to the K-M as a travel camera. Just the K-M + DA*55 would be quite the combination for me.

09-19-2008, 11:24 AM	#152
m8o Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 40°-55'-44" N / 73°-24'-07" W [on LI] Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,092	DE links gone in a flash! Thanx ghelary for catching it and givinng us the xlation. wow, well this thread certainly got a lot of traction in the past few hours!

09-19-2008, 11:25 AM	#153
quarc Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 182	Originally posted by paolojackson so....what now? whats the next big event that will have the forums going crazy ...lol The zinger they have saved for mid next week ? ;-)

09-19-2008, 11:30 AM	#154
mattdm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,948	Originally posted by ibk Neither of those. Something new and unique to Pentax digital cameras. ... and by the way, it's the default option Oh, please, please tell me they implemented my hyperfocal mode idea!

09-19-2008, 11:31 AM	#155
claude21 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 55	I think theses new lens are way overpriced. The tamron 70-200 f2.8 sell for nearly 50 % less is FF and faster. A new entry body is nice for gaining market share, but what for us K10D owners ? Thoses like me who buy it 2 years ago need a refresh and that's clearly not the k20d. I've hopes for a new advanced body, not necesseraly FF but an D300 type should fit perfectly. It's sad but I really thinking to move to nikon now. Pentax is really going crazy.

09-19-2008, 11:37 AM	#156
Alfisti Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toronto (for now) Posts: 1,748	Originally posted by GaryM Hey, I like both of those camera bodies quite a bit, but from a marketing standpoint I have to agree with you. Hopefully the Km turns out to be a step in the right direction. I used the 20D at a show and just loved using it but i simply cannot imagine carrying it for a day. It is super useable though, they have that thign sorted that's for sure. If they refine the sensor, add a larger screen, improve the FPS, add movie mode (along with proper live view) and improve the SR then I guess they could call it a K30.

09-19-2008, 11:41 AM	#157
Miserere Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Boston Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,993	Originally posted by claude21 [...] but what for us K10D owners ? Thoses like me who buy it 2 years ago need a refresh and that's clearly not the k20d. I've hopes for a new advanced body, not necesseraly FF but an D300 type should fit perfectly. It's sad but I really thinking to move to nikon now. Pentax is really going crazy. I agree! I've had the K10D for a while and I'm starting to notice that it's not always taking photos, and those that it does take are getting crappier every day. I must need a new body. Yeah, that's got to be it... Sarcasm OFF.

09-19-2008, 11:45 AM	#159
k100d Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,911	Originally posted by Alfisti I used the 20D at a show and just loved using it but i simply cannot imagine carrying it for a day. It is super useable though, they have that thign sorted that's for sure. If they refine the sensor, add a larger screen, improve the FPS, add movie mode (along with proper live view) and improve the SR then I guess they could call it a K30. the K20D isn't that much heavier / bigger than the K100D. the difference is like 200g which is like one kit lens

09-19-2008, 11:46 AM	#160
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	Quote: I agree! I've had the K10D for a while and I'm starting to notice that it's not always taking photos, and those that it does take are getting crappier every day. I must need a new body. Yeah, that's got to be it... haha! yea pretty much what I would have said. what is a 'refresh', and why do you need it?

09-19-2008, 11:47 AM	#161
mattdm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,948	Originally posted by Edvinas Note, that they say it's the smallest DSLR with in-camera SR. This means that Pentax K-m is larger than Olympus E-420. But it also means smaller than the E-520, which is still pretty little. Quote: BTW, what is the point to make sealed cheap body when cheapos DA L kit lenses will leak water and dust through all holes? Yeah, that seems like a customer service disaster waiting to happen. I'm surprised to not see a weather-sealed kit lens.

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09-19-2008, 11:49 AM	#162
mattdm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,948	Originally posted by pghwarrior23 Did someone say there is no top LCD? I rely on mine so much...how would you do without it? Or is it assuming that P&S converters won't care because they don't have one now anyway? I rarely look at mine. I want the information to be in the viewfinder, and if it's not important enough to be there, I don't care if it's on the back LCD screen.

09-19-2008, 11:51 AM	#163
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by mattdm But it also means smaller than the E-520, which is still pretty little. Pentax K-m 122.5 mm x 91.5 mm x 67.5 mm K200D 133.5mm x 95mm x 74mm *istD 129mm × 94.5mm × 60mm Olympus-420 129.5 x 91 x 53 mm Pana G1 124 mm x 84 mm x 45 mm

09-19-2008, 11:51 AM	#164
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	Quote: Wrong. This lens is to replace a classic 85mm portrait lens. FF is not in Pentax's plans. Get over it. excuse me? get over what? do you know me? Im not pushing full frame, I have my MX and film for that. try not making an ass of yourself by making stupid assumptions. I was talking about does it cover the full 24x36mm frame. from what I understand at 55mm it should, thus making it possible to use on a PZ-1p I was thinking of purchasing. I wasn't asking if this lens is meant as a FF lens for such a future body. *******.<- ill leave you to guess what that said. by the way does cowtown mean Ft. Worth? if so I definitely don't like you now, that's my hometown.

09-19-2008, 11:56 AM	#165
claude21 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 55	Faster AF ? AF tracking ? No banding at high iso ? Hi res LCD ? Possibly more fps ? Yeah that's just nikon. @Miserere Actually, I've send my K10D to pentax for repairs, so no, it doesn't make any photos. Moreover, banding and titled pictures is not what I expect from an DSLR sorry.