Official Pentax Germany release

code4code5 · 09-20-2008, 09:05 AM

I can't... believe... I read the whole thing.

Last edited by code4code5; 08-06-2009 at 09:13 PM.

deudeu · 09-20-2008, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by cousinsane

When you say "a lot of pros still shoot film"
Are you talking about medium format and large format?
Frankly, I'd be very surprised if a lot of pros are still shooting 35mm films

Mostly medium and large format, but there is also quite a few people that still use 35mm film... They also shoot mostly with rangefinders, but some still use SLRs.

MikePerham · 09-20-2008, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by ogl

it's mixed with K200D from Amazon.

Why do you say that ...why couldn't many of the specs be the same - after all the design genetics would suggest that they would be?

**Douglas_of_Sweden** · 09-20-2008, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by kunik

I like that Pentax continues to produce well on its strong suit which is excellent lenses.

I've been hoping for exactly this release (low end body - high end glass) but part 2 of my wish is that Samsung and Pentax officially stop cloning each other and let each focus on their own strengths (Pentax glass; Samsung electronics). What would be better, to top off this announcement, with an accompanying press release by Samsung that they are releasing a GX-30 and a FF body.

relatively speaking they've got lots of money and can afford the financial hit that comes with being a new entry into the market. If they jump in with both feet they could make quite a splash and add considerable strength to the Pentax/Samsung branding.

I'm also been wondering if there will now be a Samsung version of the Km?
And generally speaking, when there are twin versions of cameras from Pentax and Samsung: how many bodies does Samsung sell relative Pentax? I assume Pentax do this because they profit from Samsungs know-how in electronic, and Samsung profit from Pentax camera design know-how, but how many copies less does Pentax sell due to Samsung? Any figures anyone?

And what will Samsung kall their Km, if there will be one?

**Douglas_of_Sweden** · 09-20-2008, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by cyg

Well, in line with the K-m (ie 1000), the K200D replacement will be named the K-c, the K20D Super/Plus will turn up as the K-x, and the top-end model will naturally become the K-i...

It's pretty straightforward, really. ;-)

On the issue of naming, I'm curious to see what Nikon will come up next in the entry-enthusiast segment, now that they have used all multiples of ten between 40 and 90...

But I thought roman numbers are always capital letters? Lower case letters was not invented until after the roman empire fell. So I'm not so sure K-m equals K-1000.

Miserere · 09-20-2008, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by Douglas_of_Sweden

And what will Samsung kall their Km, if there will be one?

G-m...?

mattdm · 09-20-2008, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by MikePerham

Why do you say that ...why couldn't many of the specs be the same - after all the design genetics would suggest that they would be?

Amazon routinely does that sort of thing to make placeholders for new products.

Originally posted by Douglas_of_Sweden

But I thought roman numbers are always capital letters? Lower case letters was not invented until after the roman empire fell. So I'm not so sure K-m equals K-1000.

Yeah, but it doesn't need to literally be in ancient Latin. It's pretty clear that in at least some sense the name implies 1000.

séamuis · 09-20-2008, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Yeah, but it doesn't need to literally be in ancient Latin. It's pretty clear that in at least some sense the name implies 1000.

how so? I see no connection. its just a rebirth of the original KM name. let us not forget that the original K series released in 1975 DID NOT include the K1000. the budget model of the K series was the KM, and was marketed as such. the K1000 was always a separate camera from the other K series, essentially a Spotmatic SP1000 with a K mount. it has sense become 'the' Pentax budget camera, but that title in the K series was in fact held by the KM.

silverflower · 09-20-2008, 12:29 PM

- Read louder:
"Pentax miles"!

I would have like that such an wordplay to be the beginning of a friendly (smiling) campaign, too bad it's probably a translation error.

m8o · 09-20-2008, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by code4code5

I can't... believe... I read the whole thing.

hahahahaha!!!! Great illustration of the sentiment!

clawhammer · 09-20-2008, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by Douglas_of_Sweden

Do you think the weather sealing is good enough for the water-displacement method???? I wouldn't bet on it, but if you try it, please let us know how it works out.

Anybody got a broken K10 to sell for parts?

**rparmar** · 09-20-2008, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by clawhammer

rparmer, I wasn't trying to offend, I was just curious as to how you came about the measurements.

Hey, no offense though I did think you were a bit OTT. Everything cool here!

**Douglas_of_Sweden** · 09-20-2008, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by silverflower

- Read louder:
"Pentax miles"!

I would have like that such an wordplay to be the beginning of a friendly (smiling) campaign, too bad it's probably a translation error.

It was explained further up the thread as a bad translation of km (kilometer, usual SI unit for distance for you angloamericans) into miles.

Originally posted by séamuis

how so? I see no connection. its just a rebirth of the original KM name. let us not forget that the original K series released in 1975 DID NOT include the K1000. the budget model of the K series was the KM, and was marketed as such. the K1000 was always a separate camera from the other K series, essentially a Spotmatic SP1000 with a K mount. it has sense become 'the' Pentax budget camera, but that title in the K series was in fact held by the KM.

I think séamuis has a point here. Either that or m=mini. "K1000D" had no other credibility than being a common guess by many.
séamuis, would you care to guess the next name for a top model digital Pentax from this interpretation? What was the top model of the analog K serie bodies? KX? So in 6 months we might get a top model named Pentax K-x???

Wishful thinking....

Peacekeeper · 09-20-2008, 05:05 PM

And I thought the K-m was new and improved!!!

Though I do like the neck strap swivels, not too fussed on the Ricoh kit lens, unless they plan on having them permanently attached.

PK

mattdm · 09-20-2008, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by séamuis

how so? I see no connection. its just a rebirth of the original KM name. let us not forget that the original K series released in 1975 DID NOT include the K1000. the budget model of the K series was the KM, and was marketed as such. the K1000 was always a separate camera from the other K series, essentially a Spotmatic SP1000 with a K mount. it has sense become 'the' Pentax budget camera, but that title in the K series was in fact held by the KM.

Oh come on. You seriously think the double meaning never crossed their minds?

I think it must have, both now and in 1975.

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09-20-2008, 09:05 AM	#226
code4code5 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Denver, CO Photos: Gallery Posts: 438	I can't... believe... I read the whole thing. Last edited by code4code5; 08-06-2009 at 09:13 PM.

09-20-2008, 09:30 AM	#227
deudeu Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Paris Posts: 222	Originally posted by cousinsane When you say "a lot of pros still shoot film" Are you talking about medium format and large format? Frankly, I'd be very surprised if a lot of pros are still shooting 35mm films Mostly medium and large format, but there is also quite a few people that still use 35mm film... They also shoot mostly with rangefinders, but some still use SLRs.

09-20-2008, 09:47 AM	#228
MikePerham Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Prince George, BC Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 642	Originally posted by ogl it's mixed with K200D from Amazon. Why do you say that ...why couldn't many of the specs be the same - after all the design genetics would suggest that they would be?

09-20-2008, 09:52 AM	#229
Douglas_of_Sweden Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Stockholm Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,374	Originally posted by kunik I like that Pentax continues to produce well on its strong suit which is excellent lenses. I've been hoping for exactly this release (low end body - high end glass) but part 2 of my wish is that Samsung and Pentax officially stop cloning each other and let each focus on their own strengths (Pentax glass; Samsung electronics). What would be better, to top off this announcement, with an accompanying press release by Samsung that they are releasing a GX-30 and a FF body. relatively speaking they've got lots of money and can afford the financial hit that comes with being a new entry into the market. If they jump in with both feet they could make quite a splash and add considerable strength to the Pentax/Samsung branding. I'm also been wondering if there will now be a Samsung version of the Km? And generally speaking, when there are twin versions of cameras from Pentax and Samsung: how many bodies does Samsung sell relative Pentax? I assume Pentax do this because they profit from Samsungs know-how in electronic, and Samsung profit from Pentax camera design know-how, but how many copies less does Pentax sell due to Samsung? Any figures anyone? And what will Samsung kall their Km, if there will be one?

09-20-2008, 10:05 AM	#230
Douglas_of_Sweden Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Stockholm Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,374	Originally posted by cyg Well, in line with the K-m (ie 1000), the K200D replacement will be named the K-c, the K20D Super/Plus will turn up as the K-x, and the top-end model will naturally become the K-i... It's pretty straightforward, really. ;-) On the issue of naming, I'm curious to see what Nikon will come up next in the entry-enthusiast segment, now that they have used all multiples of ten between 40 and 90... But I thought roman numbers are always capital letters? Lower case letters was not invented until after the roman empire fell. So I'm not so sure K-m equals K-1000.

09-20-2008, 10:32 AM	#231
Miserere Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Boston Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,993	Originally posted by Douglas_of_Sweden And what will Samsung kall their Km, if there will be one? G-m...?

09-20-2008, 11:17 AM	#232
mattdm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,948	Originally posted by MikePerham Why do you say that ...why couldn't many of the specs be the same - after all the design genetics would suggest that they would be? Amazon routinely does that sort of thing to make placeholders for new products. Originally posted by Douglas_of_Sweden But I thought roman numbers are always capital letters? Lower case letters was not invented until after the roman empire fell. So I'm not so sure K-m equals K-1000. Yeah, but it doesn't need to literally be in ancient Latin. It's pretty clear that in at least some sense the name implies 1000.

09-20-2008, 11:23 AM	#233
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	Quote: Yeah, but it doesn't need to literally be in ancient Latin. It's pretty clear that in at least some sense the name implies 1000. how so? I see no connection. its just a rebirth of the original KM name. let us not forget that the original K series released in 1975 DID NOT include the K1000. the budget model of the K series was the KM, and was marketed as such. the K1000 was always a separate camera from the other K series, essentially a Spotmatic SP1000 with a K mount. it has sense become 'the' Pentax budget camera, but that title in the K series was in fact held by the KM.

09-20-2008, 12:29 PM	#234
silverflower Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Romania Posts: 26	- Read louder: "Pentax miles"! I would have like that such an wordplay to be the beginning of a friendly (smiling) campaign, too bad it's probably a translation error.

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m8o Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 40°-55'-44" N / 73°-24'-07" W [on LI] Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,092	Originally posted by code4code5 I can't... believe... I read the whole thing. hahahahaha!!!! Great illustration of the sentiment!

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09-20-2008, 01:22 PM	#236
clawhammer Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Logan, Utah Photos: Gallery Posts: 971	Originally posted by Douglas_of_Sweden Do you think the weather sealing is good enough for the water-displacement method???? I wouldn't bet on it, but if you try it, please let us know how it works out. Anybody got a broken K10 to sell for parts?

09-20-2008, 04:26 PM	#237
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,817	Originally posted by clawhammer rparmer, I wasn't trying to offend, I was just curious as to how you came about the measurements. Hey, no offense though I did think you were a bit OTT. Everything cool here!

09-20-2008, 04:37 PM	#238
Douglas_of_Sweden Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Stockholm Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,374	Originally posted by silverflower - Read louder: "Pentax miles"! I would have like that such an wordplay to be the beginning of a friendly (smiling) campaign, too bad it's probably a translation error. It was explained further up the thread as a bad translation of km (kilometer, usual SI unit for distance for you angloamericans) into miles. Originally posted by séamuis how so? I see no connection. its just a rebirth of the original KM name. let us not forget that the original K series released in 1975 DID NOT include the K1000. the budget model of the K series was the KM, and was marketed as such. the K1000 was always a separate camera from the other K series, essentially a Spotmatic SP1000 with a K mount. it has sense become 'the' Pentax budget camera, but that title in the K series was in fact held by the KM. I think séamuis has a point here. Either that or m=mini. "K1000D" had no other credibility than being a common guess by many. séamuis, would you care to guess the next name for a top model digital Pentax from this interpretation? What was the top model of the analog K serie bodies? KX? So in 6 months we might get a top model named Pentax K-x??? Wishful thinking....

09-20-2008, 07:00 PM	#240
mattdm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,948	Originally posted by séamuis how so? I see no connection. its just a rebirth of the original KM name. let us not forget that the original K series released in 1975 DID NOT include the K1000. the budget model of the K series was the KM, and was marketed as such. the K1000 was always a separate camera from the other K series, essentially a Spotmatic SP1000 with a K mount. it has sense become 'the' Pentax budget camera, but that title in the K series was in fact held by the KM. Oh come on. You seriously think the double meaning never crossed their minds? I think it must have, both now and in 1975.