Photokina, Ricoh has Confirmed

Mistral75 · 09-25-2018, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by reh321

Nikon basically did the same kind of thing several months ago when they announced announcement of the Z6 and Z7.

Months ago? That was on 23 August with a complete set of specifications including the Z7's price.

**ffking** · 09-25-2018, 10:01 AM

We already knew that Ricoh hadn't booked a press do - we still have to see what's on the actual stand

reh321 · 09-25-2018, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Months ago? That was on 23 August with a complete set of specifications including the Z7's price.

No, they hyped a July announcement, which had Nikon users all excited, but all it did was to announce the August announcement.
Nikon Announces Development of Next Generation Full-Frame Mirrorless Camera and NIKKOR Lenses?Featuring a New Mount?That Pursue a New Dimension in Optical Performance

added: a few days before that, they had an "all sizzle, no steak" thing on U-tube

You Tube

swanlefitte · 09-25-2018, 10:09 AM - **1 Like**

They need better spin if they don't have anything ready.
Pentax announces an all new apsc flagship camera to come out in time for SpaceX 2023 commercial flights around the moon.

Mistral75 · 09-25-2018, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by reh321

No, they hyped a July announcement, which had Nikon users all excited, but all it did was to announce the August announcement.
Nikon Announces Development of Next Generation Full-Frame Mirrorless Camera and NIKKOR Lenses?Featuring a New Mount?That Pursue a New Dimension in Optical Performance

added: a few days before that, they had an "all sizzle, no steak" thing on U-tube
Travel of Light - YouTube

OK, point taken. Anyway, that's three months between the announcement of the announcement and the availability of the first camera (Z7). People here would be happy if the GR III were to be available in three months from now, i.e. in early winter instead of spring.

Chris Mak · 09-25-2018, 10:31 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by reh321

No, they hyped a July announcement, which had Nikon users all excited, but all it did was to announce the August announcement.
Nikon Announces Development of Next Generation Full-Frame Mirrorless Camera and NIKKOR Lenses?Featuring a New Mount?That Pursue a New Dimension in Optical Performance

added: a few days before that, they had an "all sizzle, no steak" thing on U-tube
Travel of Light - YouTube

They did deliver though....

Rush2112 · 09-25-2018, 12:26 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Mike.P®

Ah well, that's made my Photokina then ... thanks for that

You are welcome Mike

Last edited by MarkJerling; 09-25-2018 at 05:46 PM. Reason: Quoted text and response to that removed.

VoiceOfReason · 09-25-2018, 12:31 PM

Sigma announced some new lenses that I'd like to have available, but obviously will not come in Pentax mount, including a new uber bigma 60-600 Five New Global Vision lenses | Sigma Corporation of America

Sounds like as of now all we get is a camera I have no interest in at all.

RonHendriks1966 · 09-25-2018, 12:36 PM

I will be wondering if it is under glass or people can hold it. We will see tomorrow.

Rush2112 · 09-25-2018, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

I will be wondering if it is under glass or people can hold it. We will see tomorrow.

One will be under glass and a 'select few' have already held it (in the real world)

**sbh** · 09-25-2018, 01:38 PM - **1 Like**

The latest Capture One update 11.3 (perfectly timed for Photokina) makes me think that Fuji pulls all strings they can grab. The GFX 50s is now supported by Capture One which makes it the only none-PhaseOne medium format camera there afaik.

There is even a dedicated version of Capture One for Fuji. I wish Pentax (or Ricoh) could pull this off too.

Chris Mak · 09-25-2018, 02:06 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by sbh

The latest Capture One update 11.3 (perfectly timed for Photokina) makes me think that Fuji pulls all strings they can grab. The GFX 50s is now supported by Capture One which makes it the only none-PhaseOne medium format camera there afaik.

There is even a dedicated version of Capture One for Fuji. I wish Pentax (or Ricoh) could pull this off too.

For one moment is thought I was dreaming here. I have used Capture one since v3, and never thought I would ever see them support a MF camera other than their own backs.
This Photokina is one to remember.

Chris

6BQ5 · 09-25-2018, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by Chris Mak

For one moment is thought I was dreaming here. I have used Capture one since v3, and never thought I would ever see them support a MF camera other than their own backs.
This Photokina is one to remember.

Chris

+1. That one blew me away too. It makes me wonder if Phase One is trying to democratize their software vs. being exclusive. Remember, they initially offered support for non-MF cameras because they acknowledged professionals may use a smaller body in parallel with their own Phase One body. After Apple obsoleted Aperture they probably got a lot of enthusiasts, hobbyists, and pros who don't use MF cameras. Positive word of mouth recommendations on the net added even more users. I bet their software now greatly overshadows their hardware. They are starting to see more dollars roll in and want even more rolling in. Why only have 10k users worldwide when you can have 100k or even more worldwide?

This could be the start of a new trend for them. They will offer free or "free-mium" versions of their software to entire users to upgrade to the Pro version. If they did this with Ricoh then we may get support pixel-shifted images!!

Mistral75 · 09-25-2018, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by Rush2112

(...)

There are already working copies in photographer's hands.

(...)

Originally posted by Rush2112

(...)

Yes it is on both the US and German press release. The only one that it isn't on is a "translated" Japan release.

(...))

Could you please point out where working copies being in photographers' hands are mentioned, either in the US press release

Ricoh to debut highly anticipated RICOH GR III high-end digital compact camera at Photokina 2018

or in the German press release?

NEWS RICOH GR III - RICOH IMAGING DEUTSCHLAND GmbH or https://www.ricoh-imaging.de/media/54eeb3ef3ba23451269c559ccd57e8c7/PI_RI_GR...g_25-09-18.pdf

**RobA_Oz** · 09-25-2018, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Could you please point out where working copies being in photographers' hands are mentioned, either in the US press release

Ricoh to debut highly anticipated RICOH GR III high-end digital compact camera at Photokina 2018

or in the German press release?

NEWS RICOH GR III - RICOH IMAGING DEUTSCHLAND GmbH or https://www.ricoh-imaging.de/media/54eeb3ef3ba23451269c559ccd57e8c7/PI_RI_GR...g_25-09-18.pdf

That’s odd, because I recall reading something earlier today that suggested development models were out with users (not sure about the “professionals” though), which I thought was part of an official announcement, but it isn’t in those links, nor in any other that I can find, now.

09-25-2018, 12:26 PM - 1 Like	#1807
Rush2112 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: RSM, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 505 Original Poster	lol Originally posted by Mike.P® Ah well, that's made my Photokina then ... thanks for that You are welcome Mike Last edited by MarkJerling; 09-25-2018 at 05:46 PM. Reason: Quoted text and response to that removed.

09-25-2018, 01:20 PM	#1810
Rush2112 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: RSM, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 505 Original Poster	Likely Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 I will be wondering if it is under glass or people can hold it. We will see tomorrow. One will be under glass and a 'select few' have already held it (in the real world)

09-25-2018, 01:38 PM - 1 Like	#1811
sbh Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Black Forest, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 849	The latest Capture One update 11.3 (perfectly timed for Photokina) makes me think that Fuji pulls all strings they can grab. The GFX 50s is now supported by Capture One which makes it the only none-PhaseOne medium format camera there afaik. There is even a dedicated version of Capture One for Fuji. I wish Pentax (or Ricoh) could pull this off too. Attached Images

09-25-2018, 03:29 PM	#1814
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by Rush2112 (...) There are already working copies in photographer's hands. (...) Originally posted by Rush2112 (...) Yes it is on both the US and German press release. The only one that it isn't on is a "translated" Japan release. (...)) Could you please point out where working copies being in photographers' hands are mentioned, either in the US press release Ricoh to debut highly anticipated RICOH GR III high-end digital compact camera at Photokina 2018 or in the German press release? NEWS RICOH GR III - RICOH IMAGING DEUTSCHLAND GmbH or https://www.ricoh-imaging.de/media/54eeb3ef3ba23451269c559ccd57e8c7/PI_RI_GR...g_25-09-18.pdf Last edited by MarkJerling; 09-25-2018 at 05:48 PM.

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09-25-2018, 09:56 AM	#1801
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by reh321 Nikon basically did the same kind of thing several months ago when they announced announcement of the Z6 and Z7. Months ago? That was on 23 August with a complete set of specifications including the Z7's price.

09-25-2018, 10:01 AM	#1802
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	We already knew that Ricoh hadn't booked a press do - we still have to see what's on the actual stand

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swanlefitte Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Minneapolis Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,068	They need better spin if they don't have anything ready. Pentax announces an all new apsc flagship camera to come out in time for SpaceX 2023 commercial flights around the moon.

09-25-2018, 10:17 AM	#1805
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by reh321 No, they hyped a July announcement, which had Nikon users all excited, but all it did was to announce the August announcement. Nikon Announces Development of Next Generation Full-Frame Mirrorless Camera and NIKKOR Lenses?Featuring a New Mount?That Pursue a New Dimension in Optical Performance added: a few days before that, they had an "all sizzle, no steak" thing on U-tube Travel of Light - YouTube OK, point taken. Anyway, that's three months between the announcement of the announcement and the availability of the first camera (Z7). People here would be happy if the GR III were to be available in three months from now, i.e. in early winter instead of spring.

09-25-2018, 10:31 AM - 1 Like	#1806
Chris Mak Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 639	Originally posted by reh321 No, they hyped a July announcement, which had Nikon users all excited, but all it did was to announce the August announcement. Nikon Announces Development of Next Generation Full-Frame Mirrorless Camera and NIKKOR Lenses?Featuring a New Mount?That Pursue a New Dimension in Optical Performance added: a few days before that, they had an "all sizzle, no steak" thing on U-tube Travel of Light - YouTube They did deliver though....

09-25-2018, 12:31 PM	#1808
VoiceOfReason Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mishawaka IN area Photos: Albums Posts: 6,124	Sigma announced some new lenses that I'd like to have available, but obviously will not come in Pentax mount, including a new uber bigma 60-600 Five New Global Vision lenses \| Sigma Corporation of America Sounds like as of now all we get is a camera I have no interest in at all.

09-25-2018, 12:36 PM	#1809
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	I will be wondering if it is under glass or people can hold it. We will see tomorrow.

09-25-2018, 02:06 PM - 1 Like	#1812
Chris Mak Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 639	Originally posted by sbh The latest Capture One update 11.3 (perfectly timed for Photokina) makes me think that Fuji pulls all strings they can grab. The GFX 50s is now supported by Capture One which makes it the only none-PhaseOne medium format camera there afaik. There is even a dedicated version of Capture One for Fuji. I wish Pentax (or Ricoh) could pull this off too. For one moment is thought I was dreaming here. I have used Capture one since v3, and never thought I would ever see them support a MF camera other than their own backs. This Photokina is one to remember. Chris

09-25-2018, 03:09 PM	#1813
6BQ5 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Nevada, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,348	Originally posted by Chris Mak For one moment is thought I was dreaming here. I have used Capture one since v3, and never thought I would ever see them support a MF camera other than their own backs. This Photokina is one to remember. Chris +1. That one blew me away too. It makes me wonder if Phase One is trying to democratize their software vs. being exclusive. Remember, they initially offered support for non-MF cameras because they acknowledged professionals may use a smaller body in parallel with their own Phase One body. After Apple obsoleted Aperture they probably got a lot of enthusiasts, hobbyists, and pros who don't use MF cameras. Positive word of mouth recommendations on the net added even more users. I bet their software now greatly overshadows their hardware. They are starting to see more dollars roll in and want even more rolling in. Why only have 10k users worldwide when you can have 100k or even more worldwide? This could be the start of a new trend for them. They will offer free or "free-mium" versions of their software to entire users to upgrade to the Pro version. If they did this with Ricoh then we may get support pixel-shifted images!!

09-25-2018, 06:32 PM	#1815
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	Originally posted by Mistral75 Could you please point out where working copies being in photographers' hands are mentioned, either in the US press release Ricoh to debut highly anticipated RICOH GR III high-end digital compact camera at Photokina 2018 or in the German press release? NEWS RICOH GR III - RICOH IMAGING DEUTSCHLAND GmbH or https://www.ricoh-imaging.de/media/54eeb3ef3ba23451269c559ccd57e8c7/PI_RI_GR...g_25-09-18.pdf That’s odd, because I recall reading something earlier today that suggested development models were out with users (not sure about the “professionals” though), which I thought was part of an official announcement, but it isn’t in those links, nor in any other that I can find, now.

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