Photokina, Ricoh has Confirmed

Richard Longseth · 08-31-2018, 04:09 PM

I'd be happy if a highly functional and capable APS-C flagship were introduced, if just to keep the faithful happy and hopefully compete and be an alternative to the D500. If it adds to Pentax's bottom line, then they could get back to work updating the 645 line.

**Larrymc** · 08-31-2018, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by 08amczb

A new FF 645 would be even more interesting then a new APS-C flagship!

And just how many of those FF 645s would they sell vs a high spec APS-C? The K-3/K-3II and before that the K-5 series was their bread and butter.

**clickclick** · 08-31-2018, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by Richard Longseth

I'd be happy if a highly functional and capable APS-C flagship were introduced

I'm hoping it might be this. I think a GRIII could be on the list too.

**RobA_Oz** · 08-31-2018, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by Larrymc

And just how many of those FF 645s would they sell vs a high spec APS-C? The K-3/K-3II and before that the K-5 series was their bread and butter.

While they're not at the highest end of the MF price range, the 645Z and any later MF Pentaxes are likely to attract a good profit on each body sold, so they're more important for a small player like Pentax than for bigger brands.

serothis · 08-31-2018, 08:08 PM

to add to what roba_Oz said, a new 645z will grab a lot more headlines and will be a good way for pentax to demonstrate their tech.

tdub · 08-31-2018, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by Not a Number

The first post is a rumor.

Ricoh will announce they sold PENTAX to Sony. Sony will announce they are halting all development on the K-mount but will come out with a line of PENTAX branded MILC and lenses starting with a consumer grade FF MILC. No K-mount adapter is planned for the new series.

Yikes! Please don't even joke around like that. Can you imagine? What a sad proposition.

**RobA_Oz** · 08-31-2018, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by tdub

Yikes! Please don't even joke around like that. Can you imagine? What a sad proposition.

I imagine it was a joke. When you think about it, why would Sony even consider paying money to acquire such a small player already competing in their space, except of course to shut it down (which we all know will be unnecessary, as it's doomed anyway

)? If any camera manufacturer was to be a target for a Sony takeover, I would have picked Olympus a couple of years ago when they were in serious trouble – even now, they'd be worth looking at, as their MFT range doesn't compete with much of Sony's offering (maybe their APS-C bodies, at the margins) and they don't look to be going anywhere much with that range.

So, joke around all you like: it's not about to happen, IMHO.

Pentaxke · 09-01-2018, 03:19 AM

Originally posted by sbh

–> I'm planing to visit Photokina, if someone wants to meet up, that would be nice!

I am planning on going as well, but haven't set the date yet.

**EssJayEff** · 09-01-2018, 04:08 AM

Originally posted by serothis

What you're saying is I should go out and buy a 645d/z

My poor wallet.

The jump to a 645 would not be as different as a jump to a view camera would be. The 645 cameras are still SLR cameras with viewfinders and pentaprisms. A view camera is a completely different mechanism.

**ffking** · 09-01-2018, 04:22 AM

With all this new FF mirrorless from Nikon, Canon, Panasonic and possibly Sony, Ricoh need something to attract visitors...

ogl · 09-01-2018, 04:38 AM

Originally posted by ffking

With all this new FF mirrorless from Nikon, Canon, Panasonic and possibly Sony, Ricoh need something to attract visitors...

FF Panasonic? Possibly Sony? Sony had a long FF mirrorless story...

Chris Mak · 09-01-2018, 04:44 AM

Originally posted by ffking

With all this new FF mirrorless from Nikon, Canon, Panasonic and possibly Sony, Ricoh need something to attract visitors...

The great shift from mirror reflex cameras to mirrorless sensor based technology cameras has finally begun. It was going to happen sooner or later, and it seems that now is the moment. Only time will tell how long dslr cameras will see new and exciting launches, and when the moment comes that only basic and minimal support is left. In all honesty, I have decided not to invest in Pentax Apsc any longer, but use the K3II and DA560 untill I switch to mirrorless. Nikon now has two bodies and a lens lkke the new 500mm f5.6. Sony is about to launch long tele lenses, like a 200-600mm. My main two reasons for switching to mirrorless fof birding are: uncertainty concerning new Apsc dslr body releases (how long have we been waiting for a K3 successor now? How much longer?). Second reason is the whole system of dslr AF and the lack of consistent accuracy. Sensor based AF and the exclusion of mirrorslap, such as can be seen with the Sony A9, completely transform the shooting experience where keeper rates and spot on accuracy is concerned. And now Sony is rumored to soon bring that technology to Apsc....
Things are changing much faster than I could have anticipated even one or two years ago....

Chris

surfar · 09-01-2018, 04:48 AM

Originally posted by Chris Mak

And now Sony is rumored to soon bring that technology to Apsc...

A7000 is the mini A9,But the XT-3 is faster.

---------- Post added 09-01-18 at 10:53 PM ----------

Originally posted by ffking

possibly Sony,

Definitely,its not too long to wait.

DrawsACircle · 09-01-2018, 04:54 AM

Originally posted by Cerebum

Could be a collaboration, like Pentax and Rancillo for the K1 coffee machine

A K-1 coffee machine next to my Rocky and Silvia would be great!

**ffking** · 09-01-2018, 05:00 AM

Originally posted by ogl

FF Panasonic?

Yes

Originally posted by ogl

Possibly Sony? Sony had a long FF mirrorless story...

I'm talking about new announcements

08-31-2018, 09:22 PM	#427
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	Originally posted by tdub Yikes! Please don't even joke around like that. Can you imagine? What a sad proposition. I imagine it was a joke. When you think about it, why would Sony even consider paying money to acquire such a small player already competing in their space, except of course to shut it down (which we all know will be unnecessary, as it's doomed anyway)? If any camera manufacturer was to be a target for a Sony takeover, I would have picked Olympus a couple of years ago when they were in serious trouble – even now, they'd be worth looking at, as their MFT range doesn't compete with much of Sony's offering (maybe their APS-C bodies, at the margins) and they don't look to be going anywhere much with that range. So, joke around all you like: it's not about to happen, IMHO.

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08-31-2018, 04:09 PM	#421
Richard Longseth Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 39	I'd be happy if a highly functional and capable APS-C flagship were introduced, if just to keep the faithful happy and hopefully compete and be an alternative to the D500. If it adds to Pentax's bottom line, then they could get back to work updating the 645 line.

08-31-2018, 05:52 PM	#422
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by 08amczb A new FF 645 would be even more interesting then a new APS-C flagship! And just how many of those FF 645s would they sell vs a high spec APS-C? The K-3/K-3II and before that the K-5 series was their bread and butter.

08-31-2018, 06:30 PM	#423
clickclick Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,903	Originally posted by Richard Longseth I'd be happy if a highly functional and capable APS-C flagship were introduced I'm hoping it might be this. I think a GRIII could be on the list too.

08-31-2018, 08:01 PM	#424
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	Originally posted by Larrymc And just how many of those FF 645s would they sell vs a high spec APS-C? The K-3/K-3II and before that the K-5 series was their bread and butter. While they're not at the highest end of the MF price range, the 645Z and any later MF Pentaxes are likely to attract a good profit on each body sold, so they're more important for a small player like Pentax than for bigger brands.

08-31-2018, 08:08 PM	#425
serothis Veteran Member Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 538	to add to what roba_Oz said, a new 645z will grab a lot more headlines and will be a good way for pentax to demonstrate their tech.

08-31-2018, 08:57 PM	#426
tdub Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 28	Originally posted by Not a Number The first post is a rumor. Ricoh will announce they sold PENTAX to Sony. Sony will announce they are halting all development on the K-mount but will come out with a line of PENTAX branded MILC and lenses starting with a consumer grade FF MILC. No K-mount adapter is planned for the new series. Yikes! Please don't even joke around like that. Can you imagine? What a sad proposition.

09-01-2018, 03:19 AM	#428
Pentaxke Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 476	Originally posted by sbh –> I'm planing to visit Photokina, if someone wants to meet up, that would be nice! I am planning on going as well, but haven't set the date yet.

09-01-2018, 04:08 AM	#429
EssJayEff Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: near Saxapahaw, NC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 969	Originally posted by serothis What you're saying is I should go out and buy a 645d/z My poor wallet. The jump to a 645 would not be as different as a jump to a view camera would be. The 645 cameras are still SLR cameras with viewfinders and pentaprisms. A view camera is a completely different mechanism.

09-01-2018, 04:22 AM	#430
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	With all this new FF mirrorless from Nikon, Canon, Panasonic and possibly Sony, Ricoh need something to attract visitors...

09-01-2018, 04:38 AM	#431
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by ffking With all this new FF mirrorless from Nikon, Canon, Panasonic and possibly Sony, Ricoh need something to attract visitors... FF Panasonic? Possibly Sony? Sony had a long FF mirrorless story...

09-01-2018, 04:44 AM	#432
Chris Mak Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 639	Originally posted by ffking With all this new FF mirrorless from Nikon, Canon, Panasonic and possibly Sony, Ricoh need something to attract visitors... The great shift from mirror reflex cameras to mirrorless sensor based technology cameras has finally begun. It was going to happen sooner or later, and it seems that now is the moment. Only time will tell how long dslr cameras will see new and exciting launches, and when the moment comes that only basic and minimal support is left. In all honesty, I have decided not to invest in Pentax Apsc any longer, but use the K3II and DA560 untill I switch to mirrorless. Nikon now has two bodies and a lens lkke the new 500mm f5.6. Sony is about to launch long tele lenses, like a 200-600mm. My main two reasons for switching to mirrorless fof birding are: uncertainty concerning new Apsc dslr body releases (how long have we been waiting for a K3 successor now? How much longer?). Second reason is the whole system of dslr AF and the lack of consistent accuracy. Sensor based AF and the exclusion of mirrorslap, such as can be seen with the Sony A9, completely transform the shooting experience where keeper rates and spot on accuracy is concerned. And now Sony is rumored to soon bring that technology to Apsc.... Things are changing much faster than I could have anticipated even one or two years ago.... Chris

09-01-2018, 04:48 AM	#433
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	Originally posted by Chris Mak And now Sony is rumored to soon bring that technology to Apsc... A7000 is the mini A9,But the XT-3 is faster. ---------- Post added 09-01-18 at 10:53 PM ---------- Originally posted by ffking possibly Sony, Definitely,its not too long to wait.

09-01-2018, 04:54 AM	#434
DrawsACircle Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Ulfborg, Denmark Photos: Albums Posts: 434	Originally posted by Cerebum Could be a collaboration, like Pentax and Rancillo for the K1 coffee machine A K-1 coffee machine next to my Rocky and Silvia would be great!

09-01-2018, 05:00 AM	#435
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Originally posted by ogl FF Panasonic? Yes Originally posted by ogl Possibly Sony? Sony had a long FF mirrorless story... I'm talking about new announcements