Photokina, Ricoh has Confirmed

reh321 · 09-20-2018, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

Could you help me remember to start a rumor thread early april that I talked to a credable source about an announcement coming at the may Photokina 2019?

First you'd have to find a credible source willing to talk to you.

.

reh321 · 09-20-2018, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia

There will probably be some kind of Ricoh GR replacement and/or maybe some newer Theta camera.

I'm really not expecting anything else outside of that, but it would be a nice surprise if here was some Pentax body and/or lens announced too. I'm also thinking that CP+ will be the show that will make or break Pentax for several users.

I'm also expecting this to make or break the OP's reputation here.

He puts stress on his source - but we don't know who that is - so ultimately it is his reputation at stake here.

**RobA_Oz** · 09-20-2018, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

Could you help me remember to start a rumor thread early april that I talked to a credable source about an announcement coming at the may Photokina 2019?

With Photokina now on an annual cycle, in future we’ll have more opportunities for both rumours and revelations.

Mistral75 · 09-20-2018, 02:42 PM

I don't know what Ricoh Imaging will announce at Photokina, nor do I know whether they will announce anything...

... but thinks are moving fast in mirrorless land:

Leica, Panasonic and Sigma are becoming new partners to build a new Full Frame system around the SL mount – SL mount system camera rumors and news (a new rumour site just launched by the founder and admin of 4/3 Rumors)

(FT5) A new force is building up: Leica, Panasonic and Sigma are on board together on the Full Frame SL mount project! - 43 Rumors

MarkJerling · 09-20-2018, 02:45 PM - **10 Likes**

Originally posted by reh321

I'm also expecting this to make or break the OP's reputation here.

He puts stress on his source - but we don't know who that is - so ultimately it is his reputation at stake here.

It's a rumour. Why would he disclose his source? Said source may never give him inside info again.
You're being far too tough on the OP. He had no obligation to share what he heard. He could well have kept that knowledge to himself. Instead, he shared what he was told, from someone he perceived as a credible source.

This is no different to years ago when I confirmed that I had been told that Ricoh was definitely working on the K-1. I had a credible source inside Ricoh who gave me that information. If that source had turned out to not be credible - How does that sully my reputation?

The Squirrel Mafia · 09-20-2018, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by Mistral75

I don't know what Ricoh Imaging will announce at Photokina, nor do I know whether they will announce anything...

... but thinks are moving fast in mirrorless land:

Leica, Panasonic and Sigma are becoming new partners to build a new Full Frame system around the SL mount – SL mount system camera rumors and news (a new rumour site just launched by the founder and admin of 4/3 Rumors)

(FT5) A new force is building up: Leica, Panasonic and Sigma are on board together on the Full Frame SL mount project! - 43 Rumors

Indeed they are! Just about every mirrorless camera maker has some camera and/or lens project going on. I'm just waiting to see if Ricoh brings out that K-3II replacement sometime next year or they offer something else that's impressive for the price. I can't lose either way.

Rush2112 · 09-20-2018, 04:28 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by MarkJerling

It's a rumour. Why would he disclose his source? Said source may never give him inside info again.
You're being far too tough on the OP. He had no obligation to share what he heard. He could well have kept that knowledge to himself. Instead, he shared what he was told, from someone he perceived as a credible source.

This is no different to years ago when I confirmed that I had been told that Ricoh was definitely working on the K-1. I had a credible source inside Ricoh who gave me that information. If that source had turned out to not be credible - How does that sully my reputation?

You obviously get it. It's hard for others who haven't been in them shoes to understand I think.

surfar · 09-20-2018, 04:43 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by MarkJerling

How does that sully my reputation?

You could have told us kiwis could fly,some would believe you!

MarkJerling · 09-20-2018, 05:04 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Rush2112

You obviously get it. It's hard for others who haven't been in them shoes to understand I think.

No worries. You have no idea how many people hinted I was lying at the time.

MarkJerling · 09-20-2018, 05:05 PM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by surfar

You could have told us kiwis could fly,some would believe you!

Of course Kiwis can fly. How the hell do you think so many of them end up in Australia?

**clickclick** · 09-20-2018, 05:15 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by MarkJerling

Of course Kiwis can fly. How the hell do you think so many of them end up in Australia?

ROFLMAO!!!

that just hit the spot - thank you!

reh321 · 09-20-2018, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by MarkJerling

It's a rumour. Why would he disclose his source? Said source may never give him inside info again.
You're being far too tough on the OP. He had no obligation to share what he heard. He could well have kept that knowledge to himself. Instead, he shared what he was told, from someone he perceived as a credible source.

This is no different to years ago when I confirmed that I had been told that Ricoh was definitely working on the K-1. I had a credible source inside Ricoh who gave me that information. If that source had turned out to not be credible - How does that sully my reputation?

This is essentially like co-signing.
Of course, you were under no compulsion to share what you heard, but you did,
When you reported a rumor, you are putting your name down next to his, but we can see only yours.
It would have sullied your reputation because {despite not needing to} you would have trusted someone who turned out not to be reliable.
The next time you repeated a rumor, at least some would say "This is someone who believed ....," {like believing in Australia}

added: My original point was that the OP must have had good reason to trust this source, just as he would have to trust someone to co-sign a loan.

added: I would have responded to Mark ii earlier, but my wife and I were out having a nice quiet dinner together

**Larrymc** · 09-20-2018, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by reh321

I'm also expecting this to make or break the OP's reputation here.

He puts stress on his source - but we don't know who that is - so ultimately it is his reputation at stake here.

Don't be so hard on the OP he was just passing along information that he received........he did not guarantee anything at all. If nothing at all happens, which I seriously doubt, no harm done at all to anybody. its already speculated that the info will be about the GR based on the GRmany promotions in Germany by Ricoh.

reh321 · 09-20-2018, 05:24 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by surfar

You could have told us kiwis could fly,some would believe you!

But then someone would go dump one out of a helicopter, and his reputation would have taken a hit {WKRP in Wairarapa}

reh321 · 09-20-2018, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by Larrymc

Don't be so hard on the OP he was just passing along information that he received........he did not guarantee anything at all. If nothing at all happens, which I seriously doubt, no harm done at all to anybody. its already speculated that the info will be about the GR based on the GRmany promotions in Germany by Ricoh.

Please read what I was writing the same time you were writing this. I was not being hard on the OP - my point was that this is a reason to believe even now that something is behind his Original Post.

09-20-2018, 04:28 PM - 3 Likes	#1537
Rush2112 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: RSM, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 505 Original Poster	Thanks Mark :) Originally posted by MarkJerling It's a rumour. Why would he disclose his source? Said source may never give him inside info again. You're being far too tough on the OP. He had no obligation to share what he heard. He could well have kept that knowledge to himself. Instead, he shared what he was told, from someone he perceived as a credible source. This is no different to years ago when I confirmed that I had been told that Ricoh was definitely working on the K-1. I had a credible source inside Ricoh who gave me that information. If that source had turned out to not be credible - How does that sully my reputation? You obviously get it. It's hard for others who haven't been in them shoes to understand I think.

09-20-2018, 05:19 PM	#1542
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by MarkJerling It's a rumour. Why would he disclose his source? Said source may never give him inside info again. You're being far too tough on the OP. He had no obligation to share what he heard. He could well have kept that knowledge to himself. Instead, he shared what he was told, from someone he perceived as a credible source. This is no different to years ago when I confirmed that I had been told that Ricoh was definitely working on the K-1. I had a credible source inside Ricoh who gave me that information. If that source had turned out to not be credible - How does that sully my reputation? This is essentially like co-signing. Of course, you were under no compulsion to share what you heard, but you did, When you reported a rumor, you are putting your name down next to his, but we can see only yours. It would have sullied your reputation because {despite not needing to} you would have trusted someone who turned out not to be reliable. The next time you repeated a rumor, at least some would say "This is someone who believed ....," {like believing in Australia} added: My original point was that the OP must have had good reason to trust this source, just as he would have to trust someone to co-sign a loan. added: I would have responded to Mark ii earlier, but my wife and I were out having a nice quiet dinner together Last edited by reh321; 09-20-2018 at 06:15 PM. Reason: added comments

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09-20-2018, 01:34 PM	#1531
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 Could you help me remember to start a rumor thread early april that I talked to a credable source about an announcement coming at the may Photokina 2019? First you'd have to find a credible source willing to talk to you. .

09-20-2018, 01:40 PM	#1532
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia There will probably be some kind of Ricoh GR replacement and/or maybe some newer Theta camera. I'm really not expecting anything else outside of that, but it would be a nice surprise if here was some Pentax body and/or lens announced too. I'm also thinking that CP+ will be the show that will make or break Pentax for several users. I'm also expecting this to make or break the OP's reputation here. He puts stress on his source - but we don't know who that is - so ultimately it is his reputation at stake here.

09-20-2018, 02:04 PM	#1533
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 Could you help me remember to start a rumor thread early april that I talked to a credable source about an announcement coming at the may Photokina 2019? With Photokina now on an annual cycle, in future we’ll have more opportunities for both rumours and revelations.

09-20-2018, 02:42 PM	#1534
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	I don't know what Ricoh Imaging will announce at Photokina, nor do I know whether they will announce anything... ... but thinks are moving fast in mirrorless land: Leica, Panasonic and Sigma are becoming new partners to build a new Full Frame system around the SL mount – SL mount system camera rumors and news (a new rumour site just launched by the founder and admin of 4/3 Rumors) (FT5) A new force is building up: Leica, Panasonic and Sigma are on board together on the Full Frame SL mount project! - 43 Rumors

09-20-2018, 02:45 PM - 10 Likes	#1535
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,406	Originally posted by reh321 I'm also expecting this to make or break the OP's reputation here. He puts stress on his source - but we don't know who that is - so ultimately it is his reputation at stake here. It's a rumour. Why would he disclose his source? Said source may never give him inside info again. You're being far too tough on the OP. He had no obligation to share what he heard. He could well have kept that knowledge to himself. Instead, he shared what he was told, from someone he perceived as a credible source. This is no different to years ago when I confirmed that I had been told that Ricoh was definitely working on the K-1. I had a credible source inside Ricoh who gave me that information. If that source had turned out to not be credible - How does that sully my reputation?

09-20-2018, 02:54 PM	#1536
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,054	Originally posted by Mistral75 I don't know what Ricoh Imaging will announce at Photokina, nor do I know whether they will announce anything... ... but thinks are moving fast in mirrorless land: Leica, Panasonic and Sigma are becoming new partners to build a new Full Frame system around the SL mount – SL mount system camera rumors and news (a new rumour site just launched by the founder and admin of 4/3 Rumors) (FT5) A new force is building up: Leica, Panasonic and Sigma are on board together on the Full Frame SL mount project! - 43 Rumors Indeed they are! Just about every mirrorless camera maker has some camera and/or lens project going on. I'm just waiting to see if Ricoh brings out that K-3II replacement sometime next year or they offer something else that's impressive for the price. I can't lose either way.

09-20-2018, 04:43 PM - 2 Likes	#1538
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	Originally posted by MarkJerling How does that sully my reputation? You could have told us kiwis could fly,some would believe you!

09-20-2018, 05:04 PM - 1 Like	#1539
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,406	Originally posted by Rush2112 You obviously get it. It's hard for others who haven't been in them shoes to understand I think. No worries. You have no idea how many people hinted I was lying at the time.

09-20-2018, 05:05 PM - 4 Likes	#1540
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,406	Originally posted by surfar You could have told us kiwis could fly,some would believe you! Of course Kiwis can fly. How the hell do you think so many of them end up in Australia?

09-20-2018, 05:15 PM - 2 Likes	#1541
clickclick Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,903	Originally posted by MarkJerling Of course Kiwis can fly. How the hell do you think so many of them end up in Australia? ROFLMAO!!! that just hit the spot - thank you!

09-20-2018, 05:20 PM	#1543
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,252	Originally posted by reh321 I'm also expecting this to make or break the OP's reputation here. He puts stress on his source - but we don't know who that is - so ultimately it is his reputation at stake here. Don't be so hard on the OP he was just passing along information that he received........he did not guarantee anything at all. If nothing at all happens, which I seriously doubt, no harm done at all to anybody. its already speculated that the info will be about the GR based on the GRmany promotions in Germany by Ricoh.

09-20-2018, 05:24 PM - 2 Likes	#1544
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by surfar You could have told us kiwis could fly,some would believe you! But then someone would go dump one out of a helicopter, and his reputation would have taken a hit {WKRP in Wairarapa}

09-20-2018, 05:26 PM	#1545
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by Larrymc Don't be so hard on the OP he was just passing along information that he received........he did not guarantee anything at all. If nothing at all happens, which I seriously doubt, no harm done at all to anybody. its already speculated that the info will be about the GR based on the GRmany promotions in Germany by Ricoh. Please read what I was writing the same time you were writing this. I was not being hard on the OP - my point was that this is a reason to believe even now that something is behind his Original Post.