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Rush2112 · 09-25-2018, 03:35 AM

Well Photokina isn't over yet.

Maybe there is more news coming. We'll see.

---------- Post added 09-25-2018 at 03:38 AM ----------

Originally posted by reh321

To be honest with you, I am not impressed. All this "buttoned down" secrecy looks like an attempt by Ricoh to manufacture some news when they didn't have any genuine news. This was not your 'fault'. You never were 'on the hook' ..... but Ricoh didn't impress me any; this was a non-event from my perspective.

I was hoping for more too. Maybe there will be more, I don't know.

I was told that I would be emailed the press release as soon as it came out. I was sleeping when this news happened, and no email yet

.

So yeah, of the two of us....

Carl

reh321 · 09-25-2018, 03:45 AM

Originally posted by Rush2112

Well Photokina isn't over yet.

Maybe there is more news coming. We'll see.

I was hoping for more too. Maybe there will be more, I don't know.

I was told that I would be emailed the press release as soon as it came out. I was sleeping when this news happened, and no email yet

.

So yeah, of the two of us....

Carl

There are a few more hours left in the Japanese 'today' when you were told the announcement would be made ........

reh321 · 09-25-2018, 04:03 AM

Originally posted by taktoon

I like GR concept but this is "Pentax News and Rumors"

I have a smart phone which I selected for the camera inside it. I have a Q-7. I have zero interest in the camera I will probably call the "GRRRR".

**ThorSanchez** · 09-25-2018, 04:40 AM

I'm not as down on the idea of a GRIII as you are but this is a bit underwhelming. Maybe the full specs aren't out but no WR and no viewfinder.

I suppose it comes down to price. A GRII is $600. If they price the III at $800 or $1000 there's no way. Even at $600... there's more productive things I could do with $600.

Even my Dad, who is a pocket camera user, would rather have the features of a Sony or Panasonic. He wants viewfinder and zoom more than pure image quality.

victormeldrew · 09-25-2018, 04:45 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ThorSanchez

Maybe the full specs aren't out but no WR and no viewfinder.

No WR would be a disappointment, but the addition of dust removal addresses the main problem. No viewfinder? It is an optional accessory if you want one, but for most GRists the size penalty of a built-in one would be too great. Clearly neither you or your dad are the target, but it's a happy day for those that are.

**ThorSanchez** · 09-25-2018, 04:55 AM

Originally posted by victormeldrew

No WR would be a disappointment, but the addition of dust removal addresses the main problem. No viewfinder? It is an optional accessory if you want one, but for most GRists the size penalty of a built-in one would be too great. Clearly neither you or your dad are the target, but it's a happy day for those that are.

I'm as concerned about wet as I am dust. Maybe just because my last vacation was Iceland and even though I'm mostly a prime shooter I rented a 16-85mm and it stayed on the camera a lot because of the weather. I suppose with a camera as small as the GR it's easier to keep it out of the rain with pocket/hat/etc.

I'm glad the GRIII exists, I love that there's a larger sensor compact available from Ricoh/Pentax. I know the earlier models got great reviews and in a world with unlimited resources I'd have one. But I'm not sure this is (insert final price) better than my Google Pixel for casual photography when I don't want to carry the DSLR.

victormeldrew · 09-25-2018, 05:47 AM

Originally posted by ThorSanchez

But I'm not sure this is (insert final price) better than my Google Pixel for casual photography when I don't want to carry the DSLR.

No, it's absolutely not. Because it is absolutely not for 'casual photography'.

Winder · 09-25-2018, 05:51 AM

I missed it. Was the GRIII the only announcement?

Winder · 09-25-2018, 05:51 AM

I missed it. Was the GRIII the only announcement?

victormeldrew · 09-25-2018, 05:55 AM

Originally posted by Winder

I missed it. Was the GRIII the only announcement?

Announcement of it being in the pipeline...Yes. Not that it counts as an announcement when everybody knows already, but there are some specs and a predicted date for them to miss.

**jpzk** · 09-25-2018, 06:02 AM

Photokina, Ricoh has Confirmed .... What??

If this is the only "news" thus far, I suppose there isn't going to be much more announced during the week of September 26-29.
Of course, one would always want to be hopeful for the next one scheduled for May 8-11, 2019.

All that said ... I'm out of here until real news or "confirmation" materialise.

Cheers!

Mistral75 · 09-25-2018, 06:55 AM - **2 Likes**

Suggestion for a next thread:

Photo Plus Expo, Ricoh have confirmed their confirmation

Photo Plus Expo | Photography Tradeshow for Pro Photographers

Mike.P® · 09-25-2018, 07:07 AM - **1 Like**

So I'm presuming "IF" we do get a K3-II replacement announcement next year then it will just be a confirmation that they are hoping to have it out sometime in 2020?

I know there are limited resources and I know Pentax are only a small player in the market now but it pains me to say it, ... they really aren't doing themselves any favours and by the time they get a new camera out they will have a much smaller user base than it is now.

As a side note I would love to know how many active forum users there were 5 years ago compared with today.

Mistral75 · 09-25-2018, 07:14 AM

Things can go very, very fast in today's world:

Originally posted by ePHOTOzine:

Sigma Set To Axe SA Mount Cameras - Sigma won't be releasing any more SA mount cameras, as they shift over to make L-mount models.

Sigma has announced at Photokina that it will not be making any more SA mount cameras.

The news comes as an alliance has been announced by Sigma, Leica and Panasonic to work on new L-mount cameras and lenses.

Sigma has said that they will still be making SA mount lenses for existing SA mount users however no more cameras with SA mount will be made.

Source: Sigma Set To Axe SA Mount Cameras | ePHOTOzine

iudex · 09-25-2018, 07:36 AM

Originally posted by Rush2112

So we finally know. And I can be let off the hook...?

Well you were right, they announced "somethihg", so you are free to go.

However it is no camera, no lens, just a promise they will bring the GR next year. How typical for Ricoh in last years: later, next spring, someday... though it would bee too little and too late if it was today.

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09-25-2018, 03:35 AM	#1771
Rush2112 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: RSM, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 505 Original Poster	Well Photokina isn't over yet. Maybe there is more news coming. We'll see. ---------- Post added 09-25-2018 at 03:38 AM ---------- Originally posted by reh321 To be honest with you, I am not impressed. All this "buttoned down" secrecy looks like an attempt by Ricoh to manufacture some news when they didn't have any genuine news. This was not your 'fault'. You never were 'on the hook' ..... but Ricoh didn't impress me any; this was a non-event from my perspective. I was hoping for more too. Maybe there will be more, I don't know. I was told that I would be emailed the press release as soon as it came out. I was sleeping when this news happened, and no email yet . So yeah, of the two of us.... Carl

09-25-2018, 03:45 AM	#1772
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,185	Originally posted by Rush2112 Well Photokina isn't over yet. Maybe there is more news coming. We'll see. I was hoping for more too. Maybe there will be more, I don't know. I was told that I would be emailed the press release as soon as it came out. I was sleeping when this news happened, and no email yet . So yeah, of the two of us.... Carl There are a few more hours left in the Japanese 'today' when you were told the announcement would be made ........

09-25-2018, 04:03 AM	#1773
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,185	Originally posted by taktoon I like GR concept but this is "Pentax News and Rumors" I have a smart phone which I selected for the camera inside it. I have a Q-7. I have zero interest in the camera I will probably call the "GRRRR".

09-25-2018, 04:40 AM	#1774
ThorSanchez Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,807	I'm not as down on the idea of a GRIII as you are but this is a bit underwhelming. Maybe the full specs aren't out but no WR and no viewfinder. I suppose it comes down to price. A GRII is $600. If they price the III at $800 or $1000 there's no way. Even at $600... there's more productive things I could do with $600. Even my Dad, who is a pocket camera user, would rather have the features of a Sony or Panasonic. He wants viewfinder and zoom more than pure image quality.

09-25-2018, 04:45 AM - 1 Like	#1775
victormeldrew Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: South West UK Photos: Albums Posts: 1,493	Originally posted by ThorSanchez Maybe the full specs aren't out but no WR and no viewfinder. No WR would be a disappointment, but the addition of dust removal addresses the main problem. No viewfinder? It is an optional accessory if you want one, but for most GRists the size penalty of a built-in one would be too great. Clearly neither you or your dad are the target, but it's a happy day for those that are.

09-25-2018, 04:55 AM	#1776
ThorSanchez Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,807	Originally posted by victormeldrew No WR would be a disappointment, but the addition of dust removal addresses the main problem. No viewfinder? It is an optional accessory if you want one, but for most GRists the size penalty of a built-in one would be too great. Clearly neither you or your dad are the target, but it's a happy day for those that are. I'm as concerned about wet as I am dust. Maybe just because my last vacation was Iceland and even though I'm mostly a prime shooter I rented a 16-85mm and it stayed on the camera a lot because of the weather. I suppose with a camera as small as the GR it's easier to keep it out of the rain with pocket/hat/etc. I'm glad the GRIII exists, I love that there's a larger sensor compact available from Ricoh/Pentax. I know the earlier models got great reviews and in a world with unlimited resources I'd have one. But I'm not sure this is (insert final price) better than my Google Pixel for casual photography when I don't want to carry the DSLR.

09-25-2018, 05:47 AM	#1777
victormeldrew Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: South West UK Photos: Albums Posts: 1,493	Originally posted by ThorSanchez But I'm not sure this is (insert final price) better than my Google Pixel for casual photography when I don't want to carry the DSLR. No, it's absolutely not. Because it is absolutely not for 'casual photography'.

09-25-2018, 05:51 AM	#1778
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	I missed it. Was the GRIII the only announcement?

09-25-2018, 05:51 AM	#1779
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	I missed it. Was the GRIII the only announcement?

09-25-2018, 05:55 AM	#1780
victormeldrew Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: South West UK Photos: Albums Posts: 1,493	Originally posted by Winder I missed it. Was the GRIII the only announcement? Announcement of it being in the pipeline...Yes. Not that it counts as an announcement when everybody knows already, but there are some specs and a predicted date for them to miss.

09-25-2018, 06:02 AM	#1781
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Photokina, Ricoh has Confirmed .... What?? If this is the only "news" thus far, I suppose there isn't going to be much more announced during the week of September 26-29. Of course, one would always want to be hopeful for the next one scheduled for May 8-11, 2019. All that said ... I'm out of here until real news or "confirmation" materialise. Cheers!

09-25-2018, 06:55 AM - 2 Likes	#1782
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Suggestion for a next thread: Photo Plus Expo, Ricoh have confirmed their confirmation Photo Plus Expo \| Photography Tradeshow for Pro Photographers

09-25-2018, 07:07 AM - 1 Like	#1783
Mike.P® Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Milton, Hampshire, UK Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,154	So I'm presuming "IF" we do get a K3-II replacement announcement next year then it will just be a confirmation that they are hoping to have it out sometime in 2020? I know there are limited resources and I know Pentax are only a small player in the market now but it pains me to say it, ... they really aren't doing themselves any favours and by the time they get a new camera out they will have a much smaller user base than it is now. As a side note I would love to know how many active forum users there were 5 years ago compared with today.

09-25-2018, 07:14 AM	#1784
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Things can go very, very fast in today's world: Originally posted by ePHOTOzine: Sigma Set To Axe SA Mount Cameras - Sigma won't be releasing any more SA mount cameras, as they shift over to make L-mount models. Sigma has announced at Photokina that it will not be making any more SA mount cameras. The news comes as an alliance has been announced by Sigma, Leica and Panasonic to work on new L-mount cameras and lenses. Sigma has said that they will still be making SA mount lenses for existing SA mount users however no more cameras with SA mount will be made. Source: Sigma Set To Axe SA Mount Cameras \| ePHOTOzine

09-25-2018, 07:36 AM	#1785
iudex Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 87	Originally posted by Rush2112 So we finally know. And I can be let off the hook...? Well you were right, they announced "somethihg", so you are free to go. However it is no camera, no lens, just a promise they will bring the GR next year. How typical for Ricoh in last years: later, next spring, someday... though it would bee too little and too late if it was today.