Photokina, Ricoh has Confirmed

RonHendriks1966 · 09-25-2018, 08:01 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

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Photo Plus Expo, Ricoh have confirmed their confirmation

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Salon de la photo, Ricoh still has the plan to go true with the pre-announcement at Photokina that was confirmed at Photo Plus Expo

Salon de la photo

iudex · 09-25-2018, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

Salon de la photo, Ricoh still has the plan to go true with the pre-announcement at Photokina that was confirmed at Photo Plus Expo

Salon de la photo

It would be funny if it wasnt sad.

Just compare this:

Fujifilm announced development of 100 MPx medium format mirrorless camera.
Panasonic announced development of two brand new fullframe mirrorless cameras.
Ricoh announced development of new generation of APSC compact.

Mike.P® · 09-25-2018, 08:39 AM - **1 Like**

It comes to something when the only thing Pentax users have to get excited about is a Irix 150mm macro lens.

Quite looking forward to seeing if it's a replacement for my Sigma 180mm f/3.5 macro.

Rush2112 · 09-25-2018, 08:45 AM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by iudex

Well you were right, they announced "somethihg", so you are free to go.

However it is no camera, no lens, just a promise they will bring the GR next year. How typical for Ricoh in last years: later, next spring, someday... though it would bee too little and too late if it was today.

It's an announcement. Final form factor and specs are in place. Check out my press release, its slated for early 2019, and to me that sounds better than "Spring" others are reporting. Ricoh wouldn't announce something they didn't intend to release. Just like the K1 etc.

There are already working copies in photographer's hands.

Lets just keep it real please.

Carl

Mistral75 · 09-25-2018, 08:50 AM

'Spring 2019' comes from the announcement on the Japanese website:

ハイエンドコンパクトデジタルカメラ「RICOH GR III」を開発｜RICOH IMAGING

Originally posted by Ricoh Imaging:

発売時期
2019年春（予定）

Translation:

Release date
Spring 2019 (as scheduled)

Rush2112 · 09-25-2018, 08:51 AM - **1 Like**

Personally, now that I really think about it, I think its better for Ricoh to not announce anything Pentax this PK. There is way too much talk of new mirrorless this and that, and any release they do for Pentax is going to end up in the flooded river of announcements made this historic Photokina. That, or they should be last to announce, to give all the other announcements time to settle a bit.

Guess we'll see whats up in the next few months. Agonizing wait for Pentax folks I know. I was hoping for more too, but companies have to do the best with what they have. I await Adams interview with Ricoh, to see if anything new comes up

.

Mike.P® · 09-25-2018, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by Rush2112

Ricoh wouldn't announce something they didn't intend to release.

Pentax Q macro lens springs to mind, closely followed by mechanical SR in video for K-1

Rush2112 · 09-25-2018, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by Mike.P®

Pentax Q macro lens springs to mind, closely followed by mechanical SR in video for K-1

Those aren't cameras Mike.

The GR is coming in early 2019.

"The RICOH GR III will be available in early 2019 at Home - Ricoh and retail outlets nationwide"

Mike.P® · 09-25-2018, 09:21 AM

Originally posted by Rush2112

Those aren't cameras Mike.

Had you said cameras I would have agreed, however you didn't ... you specifically said "Ricoh wouldn't announce something they didn't intend to release."

**Larrymc** · 09-25-2018, 09:26 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Rush2112

Personally, now that I really think about it, I think its better for Ricoh to not announce anything Pentax this PK. There is way too much talk of new mirrorless this and that, and any release they do for Pentax is going to end up in the flooded river of announcements made this historic Photokina. That, or they should be last to announce, to give all the other announcements time to settle a bit.

Guess we'll see whats up in the next few months. Agonizing wait for Pentax folks I know. I was hoping for more too, but companies have to do the best with what they have. I await Adams interview with Ricoh, to see if anything new comes up

.

That's been my theory for a month or so, the K-3 replacment announcement will come around CP+2019!

Rush2112 · 09-25-2018, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by Mike.P®

Had you said cameras I would have agreed, however you didn't ... you specifically said "Ricoh wouldn't announce something they didn't intend to release."

You win.

Mike.P® · 09-25-2018, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by Rush2112

You win.

Ah well, that's made my Photokina then ... thanks for that

MMVIII · 09-25-2018, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by iudex

It would be funny if it wasnt sad.

Just compare this:

Fujifilm announced development of 100 MPx medium format mirrorless camera.
Panasonic announced development of two brand new fullframe mirrorless cameras.
Ricoh announced development of new generation of APSC compact.

Just a question: are you in the process of aquiring any of these items?

reh321 · 09-25-2018, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by iudex

Well you were right, they announced "somethihg", so you are free to go.

However it is no camera, no lens, just a promise they will bring the GR next year. How typical for Ricoh in last years: later, next spring, someday... though it would bee too little and too late if it was today.

Nikon basically did the same kind of thing several months ago when they announced announcement of the Z6 and Z7.

reh321 · 09-25-2018, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by Mike.P®

So I'm presuming "IF" we do get a K3-II replacement announcement next year then it will just be a confirmation that they are hoping to have it out sometime in 2020?

I know there are limited resources and I know Pentax are only a small player in the market now but it pains me to say it, ... they really aren't doing themselves any favours and by the time they get a new camera out they will have a much smaller user base than it is now.

This was a very unusual announcement - that was evident when it didn't occur at 7am JST, but instead happened much later in the day {during sleep-time here in the Western Hemisphere}. The normal procedure is for them to announce a camera for almost instant release - so if they announce a camera on Feb 2, 2019, I would expect it to be on dealer shelves by February 28, 2019.

09-25-2018, 08:45 AM - 4 Likes	#1789
Rush2112 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: RSM, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 505 Original Poster	Don't downgrade it Originally posted by iudex Well you were right, they announced "somethihg", so you are free to go. However it is no camera, no lens, just a promise they will bring the GR next year. How typical for Ricoh in last years: later, next spring, someday... though it would bee too little and too late if it was today. It's an announcement. Final form factor and specs are in place. Check out my press release, its slated for early 2019, and to me that sounds better than "Spring" others are reporting. Ricoh wouldn't announce something they didn't intend to release. Just like the K1 etc. There are already working copies in photographer's hands. Lets just keep it real please. Carl

09-25-2018, 08:53 AM	#1793
Rush2112 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: RSM, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 505 Original Poster	I won't argue Originally posted by Mike.P® Pentax Q macro lens springs to mind, closely followed by mechanical SR in video for K-1 Those aren't cameras Mike. The GR is coming in early 2019. "The RICOH GR III will be available in early 2019 at Home - Ricoh and retail outlets nationwide"

09-25-2018, 09:31 AM	#1796
Rush2112 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: RSM, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 505 Original Poster	Fair enough Originally posted by Mike.P® Had you said cameras I would have agreed, however you didn't ... you specifically said "Ricoh wouldn't announce something they didn't intend to release." You win.

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09-25-2018, 08:01 AM	#1786
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by Mistral75 Suggestion for a next thread: Photo Plus Expo, Ricoh have confirmed their confirmation Photo Plus Expo \| Photography Tradeshow for Pro Photographers Salon de la photo, Ricoh still has the plan to go true with the pre-announcement at Photokina that was confirmed at Photo Plus Expo Salon de la photo

09-25-2018, 08:06 AM	#1787
iudex Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 87	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 Salon de la photo, Ricoh still has the plan to go true with the pre-announcement at Photokina that was confirmed at Photo Plus Expo Salon de la photo It would be funny if it wasnt sad. Just compare this: Fujifilm announced development of 100 MPx medium format mirrorless camera. Panasonic announced development of two brand new fullframe mirrorless cameras. Ricoh announced development of new generation of APSC compact.

09-25-2018, 08:39 AM - 1 Like	#1788
Mike.P® Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Milton, Hampshire, UK Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,154	It comes to something when the only thing Pentax users have to get excited about is a Irix 150mm macro lens. Quite looking forward to seeing if it's a replacement for my Sigma 180mm f/3.5 macro.

09-25-2018, 08:50 AM	#1790
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	'Spring 2019' comes from the announcement on the Japanese website: ハイエンドコンパクトデジタルカメラ「RICOH GR III」を開発｜RICOH IMAGING Originally posted by Ricoh Imaging: 発売時期 2019年春（予定） Translation: Release date Spring 2019 (as scheduled)

09-25-2018, 08:51 AM - 1 Like	#1791
Rush2112 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: RSM, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 505 Original Poster	Personally, now that I really think about it, I think its better for Ricoh to not announce anything Pentax this PK. There is way too much talk of new mirrorless this and that, and any release they do for Pentax is going to end up in the flooded river of announcements made this historic Photokina. That, or they should be last to announce, to give all the other announcements time to settle a bit. Guess we'll see whats up in the next few months. Agonizing wait for Pentax folks I know. I was hoping for more too, but companies have to do the best with what they have. I await Adams interview with Ricoh, to see if anything new comes up .

09-25-2018, 08:51 AM	#1792
Mike.P® Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Milton, Hampshire, UK Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,154	Originally posted by Rush2112 Ricoh wouldn't announce something they didn't intend to release. Pentax Q macro lens springs to mind, closely followed by mechanical SR in video for K-1

09-25-2018, 09:21 AM	#1794
Mike.P® Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Milton, Hampshire, UK Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,154	Originally posted by Rush2112 Those aren't cameras Mike. Had you said cameras I would have agreed, however you didn't ... you specifically said "Ricoh wouldn't announce something they didn't intend to release."

09-25-2018, 09:26 AM - 1 Like	#1795
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,252	Originally posted by Rush2112 Personally, now that I really think about it, I think its better for Ricoh to not announce anything Pentax this PK. There is way too much talk of new mirrorless this and that, and any release they do for Pentax is going to end up in the flooded river of announcements made this historic Photokina. That, or they should be last to announce, to give all the other announcements time to settle a bit. Guess we'll see whats up in the next few months. Agonizing wait for Pentax folks I know. I was hoping for more too, but companies have to do the best with what they have. I await Adams interview with Ricoh, to see if anything new comes up . That's been my theory for a month or so, the K-3 replacment announcement will come around CP+2019!

09-25-2018, 09:33 AM	#1797
Mike.P® Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Milton, Hampshire, UK Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,154	Originally posted by Rush2112 You win. Ah well, that's made my Photokina then ... thanks for that

09-25-2018, 09:42 AM	#1798
MMVIII Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: EU Posts: 1,121	Originally posted by iudex It would be funny if it wasnt sad. Just compare this: Fujifilm announced development of 100 MPx medium format mirrorless camera. Panasonic announced development of two brand new fullframe mirrorless cameras. Ricoh announced development of new generation of APSC compact. Just a question: are you in the process of aquiring any of these items?

09-25-2018, 09:45 AM	#1799
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,185	Originally posted by iudex Well you were right, they announced "somethihg", so you are free to go. However it is no camera, no lens, just a promise they will bring the GR next year. How typical for Ricoh in last years: later, next spring, someday... though it would bee too little and too late if it was today. Nikon basically did the same kind of thing several months ago when they announced announcement of the Z6 and Z7.

09-25-2018, 09:56 AM	#1800
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,185	Originally posted by Mike.P® So I'm presuming "IF" we do get a K3-II replacement announcement next year then it will just be a confirmation that they are hoping to have it out sometime in 2020? I know there are limited resources and I know Pentax are only a small player in the market now but it pains me to say it, ... they really aren't doing themselves any favours and by the time they get a new camera out they will have a much smaller user base than it is now. This was a very unusual announcement - that was evident when it didn't occur at 7am JST, but instead happened much later in the day {during sleep-time here in the Western Hemisphere}. The normal procedure is for them to announce a camera for almost instant release - so if they announce a camera on Feb 2, 2019, I would expect it to be on dealer shelves by February 28, 2019.