Wild rumour: Samsung to provide APS-C sensors to Ricoh Imaging (and Fujifilm)

reh321 · 09-16-2018, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by swanlefitte

I have been thinking a new k3+ needs a new sensor and there wasn't one. At least no one chimed in when I asked.
This story also comes out soon before photokina.
These points lend credence to the rumor in my opinion.
Maybe there will be an announcement about a future k3+.

Hopefully we will hear something in the next two weeks.

Every morning, this section is the first place I go, because Japan's business day largely overlaps my sleeping hours ..... but I'm still patiently waiting.

reh321 · 09-16-2018, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by swanlefitte

I have been thinking a new k3+ needs a new sensor and there wasn't one. At least no one chimed in when I asked.
This story also comes out soon before photokina.
These points lend credence to the rumor in my opinion.
Maybe there will be an announcement about a future k3+.

A nice thing about this rumor is that it provides a reason other than incompetence to explain the dearth of K-3 cameras for sale ..... integrating a modern Samsung sensor might have taken longer than they anticipated.

funkythiru · 09-16-2018, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by zapp

Pentax cannot compete against Sony as long as they use Sony sensors. Nikon had to dump Sony to go mirrorless for instance. If it is for the good, go for it.

No proof they ever did. A tear down of D850 showed sony part number on the sensor.

Also since Sammy can fab both sensor and processor there might be better integration.

surfar · 09-16-2018, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by funkythiru

Also since Sammy can fab both sensor and processor there might be better integration.

Yes and its been reported Ricoh and Fuji have both been sent sensors and Ricoh has been sent the isp as well.

---------- Post added 09-17-18 at 06:02 AM ----------

SLRCLUB, ??? ???? ?? ????

This is another rumour site in Korea.

A report of Samsung returning to the camera market as well.

reh321 · 09-16-2018, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by surfar

Yes and its been reported Ricoh and Fuji have both been sent sensors and Ricoh has been sent the isp as well.

I'm sorry, I don't understand use of "isp" in this context.

surfar · 09-16-2018, 12:07 PM

P is processor.

**ffking** · 09-16-2018, 12:10 PM

Since Samsung have pulled out of making cameras that can't make phone calls, i'd like to see Pentax use their sensors - especially if they could get some sort of mutual benefit relationship going

surfar · 09-16-2018, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by reh321

Hopefully we will hear something in the next two weeks.

I like surprises

reh321 · 09-16-2018, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by surfar

I like surprises

I don't care how they announce it - but many K-3/5/7 users here are getting nervous - they would like information before the end of Photokina.

Mistral75 · 09-16-2018, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by reh321

I'm sorry, I don't understand use of "isp" in this context.

Image signal processor.

surfar · 09-16-2018, 12:18 PM

Yes,the "nervousness" of not knowing might be concerning.Not for me,i'm in the other systems but if RI lets us know they have something that rivals what is available or will be soon,then its worth considering.

Mistral75 · 09-16-2018, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by surfar

(...)

[/COLOR]SLRCLUB, ??? ???? ?? ????

This is another rumour site in Korea.

A report of Samsung returning to the camera market as well.

They relay an article written by Andrew Reid for EOS HD:

Samsung eying return to camera market as Galaxy smartphone shipments fall - EOSHD

which reports unspecified rumours:

Originally posted by Andrew Reid, EOS HD:

Now there are rumours Samsung is looking ‘beyond the galaxy’…

**ffking** · 09-16-2018, 12:29 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Mistral75

Originally posted by Andrew Reid, EOS HD:
Now there are rumours Samsung is looking ‘beyond the galaxy’…

Samsung Deep Space?

surfar · 09-16-2018, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by Mistral75

which reports unspecified rumours:

Yes, i saw it on a rumour site...sometimes these can be "wild" or "mild"!

From what ive seen,a lot are quite accurate and some have no credibility.

On the subject of Samsung providing sensors though,thats 100% credible.I read it in a statement they made late last year,i cant recall the place i saw it.The likelyhood of the sensor in the XT3 being a Sammy is high(ive seen it mentioned).The new Panasonic FF is rumoured to be a Sammy sensor.

Something significant to RI using Sammy is the cost,rumoured to be 70% the cost of $$$ony.

---------- Post added 09-17-18 at 06:40 AM ----------

Originally posted by ffking

Samsung Deep Space?

a while ago we thought their cameras systems were in something else deep!

**Larrymc** · 09-16-2018, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by reh321

I'm sorry, I don't understand use of "isp" in this context.

Internet service provider........naturally

09-16-2018, 09:36 AM	#18
funkythiru Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Chicago Posts: 291	Originally posted by zapp Pentax cannot compete against Sony as long as they use Sony sensors. Nikon had to dump Sony to go mirrorless for instance. If it is for the good, go for it. No proof they ever did. A tear down of D850 showed sony part number on the sensor. Also since Sammy can fab both sensor and processor there might be better integration. Last edited by funkythiru; 09-16-2018 at 09:43 AM.

09-16-2018, 12:36 PM	#29
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,145	Originally posted by Mistral75 which reports unspecified rumours: Yes, i saw it on a rumour site...sometimes these can be "wild" or "mild"! From what ive seen,a lot are quite accurate and some have no credibility. On the subject of Samsung providing sensors though,thats 100% credible.I read it in a statement they made late last year,i cant recall the place i saw it.The likelyhood of the sensor in the XT3 being a Sammy is high(ive seen it mentioned).The new Panasonic FF is rumoured to be a Sammy sensor. Something significant to RI using Sammy is the cost,rumoured to be 70% the cost of $$$ony. ---------- Post added 09-17-18 at 06:40 AM ---------- Originally posted by ffking Samsung Deep Space? a while ago we thought their cameras systems were in something else deep! Last edited by surfar; 09-16-2018 at 12:53 PM.

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09-16-2018, 09:26 AM	#16
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,185	Originally posted by swanlefitte I have been thinking a new k3+ needs a new sensor and there wasn't one. At least no one chimed in when I asked. This story also comes out soon before photokina. These points lend credence to the rumor in my opinion. Maybe there will be an announcement about a future k3+. Hopefully we will hear something in the next two weeks. Every morning, this section is the first place I go, because Japan's business day largely overlaps my sleeping hours ..... but I'm still patiently waiting.

09-16-2018, 09:33 AM	#17
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,185	Originally posted by swanlefitte I have been thinking a new k3+ needs a new sensor and there wasn't one. At least no one chimed in when I asked. This story also comes out soon before photokina. These points lend credence to the rumor in my opinion. Maybe there will be an announcement about a future k3+. A nice thing about this rumor is that it provides a reason other than incompetence to explain the dearth of K-3 cameras for sale ..... integrating a modern Samsung sensor might have taken longer than they anticipated.

09-16-2018, 11:57 AM	#19
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,145	Originally posted by funkythiru Also since Sammy can fab both sensor and processor there might be better integration. Yes and its been reported Ricoh and Fuji have both been sent sensors and Ricoh has been sent the isp as well. ---------- Post added 09-17-18 at 06:02 AM ---------- SLRCLUB, ??? ???? ?? ???? This is another rumour site in Korea. A report of Samsung returning to the camera market as well.

09-16-2018, 12:04 PM	#20
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,185	Originally posted by surfar Yes and its been reported Ricoh and Fuji have both been sent sensors and Ricoh has been sent the isp as well. I'm sorry, I don't understand use of "isp" in this context.

09-16-2018, 12:07 PM	#21
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,145	P is processor.

09-16-2018, 12:10 PM	#22
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,039	Since Samsung have pulled out of making cameras that can't make phone calls, i'd like to see Pentax use their sensors - especially if they could get some sort of mutual benefit relationship going

09-16-2018, 12:12 PM	#23
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,145	Originally posted by reh321 Hopefully we will hear something in the next two weeks. I like surprises

09-16-2018, 12:15 PM	#24
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,185	Originally posted by surfar I like surprises I don't care how they announce it - but many K-3/5/7 users here are getting nervous - they would like information before the end of Photokina.

09-16-2018, 12:17 PM	#25
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527 Original Poster	Originally posted by reh321 I'm sorry, I don't understand use of "isp" in this context. Image signal processor.

09-16-2018, 12:18 PM	#26
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,145	Yes,the "nervousness" of not knowing might be concerning.Not for me,i'm in the other systems but if RI lets us know they have something that rivals what is available or will be soon,then its worth considering.

09-16-2018, 12:24 PM	#27
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527 Original Poster	Originally posted by surfar (...) [/COLOR]SLRCLUB, ??? ???? ?? ???? This is another rumour site in Korea. A report of Samsung returning to the camera market as well. They relay an article written by Andrew Reid for EOS HD: Samsung eying return to camera market as Galaxy smartphone shipments fall - EOSHD which reports unspecified rumours: Originally posted by Andrew Reid, EOS HD: Now there are rumours Samsung is looking ‘beyond the galaxy’…

09-16-2018, 12:29 PM - 1 Like	#28
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,039	Originally posted by Mistral75 Originally posted by Andrew Reid, EOS HD: Now there are rumours Samsung is looking ‘beyond the galaxy’… Samsung Deep Space?

09-16-2018, 12:41 PM	#30
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,252	Originally posted by reh321 I'm sorry, I don't understand use of "isp" in this context. Internet service provider........naturally