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09-16-2018, 12:47 PM   #31
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i'd like to see Pentax use their sensors - especially if they could get some sort of mutual benefit relationship going
Yes, expect the iPentax soon!

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They could learn a thing o two about mobile apps from Samsung;] ImageSync still works like open beta version;]
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Assuming all of this is true, any guesses as to the pixel size? 30 mp strikes me as being to close to the K-1 and I would think Ricoh would not want to cannibalize K-1 sales to the K-3 successor because of this. But considering that the 24 mp sensor size has been around for 5 years now and in all the APS-C cameras, I think Ricoh needs to bump the size up to at least 26 mp if not 28 mp. Then again, if a K-1 successor goes with a 42-45 mp sensor then a 30 mp one would slot in quite nicely below that.

I've been thinking of upgrading from my now 7 and a half year old K-5 and was very interested in the K-3 successor. But the more I think about this the more I'd like to see the successor to the KP. Hmmmm, I may not be upgrading for another couple of years......
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This is some promising news. I doubt there will be anything stemming from it at photokina though - it is too soon, and they've obviously been building up hype for a new GR. I would be very surprised if it was something else.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Picture Imperfect Quote
Assuming all of this is true, any guesses as to the pixel size? 30 mp strikes me as being to close to the K-1 and I would think Ricoh would not want to cannibalize K-1 sales to the K-3 successor because of this. But considering that the 24 mp sensor size has been around for 5 years now and in all the APS-C cameras, I think Ricoh needs to bump the size up to at least 26 mp if not 28 mp. Then again, if a K-1 successor goes with a 42-45 mp sensor then a 30 mp one would slot in quite nicely below that.
At some point Dynamic Range, Color Depth, and noise issues arise as the sensor sites become crowded on the sensor. I don't know how use of something like the 'accelerator' might factor into all of this. Experimenting with various settings might help to explain why developing K-3 replacement has seemed to "drag".
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I don't see a 28mp apsc interfering with a 36mp ff because pixel size is 3.6 to 4.9 difference. That's 25% larger.
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Even 24mp APSC already has smaller receptor sites than 36mp ff, quality of pixels matters too. I don't think most people in the market for ff will be happy with APSC - they seem two different animals.
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QuoteOriginally posted by UncleVanya Quote
Even 24mp APSC already has smaller receptor sites than 36mp ff, quality of pixels matters too. I don't think most people in the market for ff will be happy with APSC - they seem two different animals.
(Picking up from yours) I don't think most people in the market today for APS would be happy with 30MP if it meant worse DR/noise than K3.
I thought megapixel wars were over...

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(Picking up from yours) I don't think most people in the market today for APS would be happy with 30MP if it meant worse DR/noise than K3.
I thought megapixel wars were over...
But what if they could get 28mp with NX500 performance??
Pentax K-3 II vs Samsung NX500
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But what if they could get 28mp with NX500 performance??
With a Viewfinder?...The performace is great,or has been for last 4 years.
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But what if they could get 28mp with NX500 performance??
Pentax K-3 II vs Samsung NX500
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With a Viewfinder?...The performace is great,or has been for last 4 years.
That sensor, or an improved variant, in a Pentax camera, with all that implies.
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Samsung NX2 - is it real? - PentaxForums.com

here is specs of NX-2 sensor (rumors of course)


30.1 MP sensor (6720*4480)

4K 120fps h.265
– Full sensor (6720*4480) @ 30fps
– 5376*3024 @ 60fps
– 3840*2160 @ 120fps
– 2688*1512 @ 240fps
– 1920*1080 @ 480fps

15fps/30fps with electronic shutter.
Impressive specs, such a sensor would require complete change of electronics and processing
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Impressive specs, such a sensor would require complete change of electronics and processing
The rumor includes the processor also
Wild rumour: Samsung to provide APS-C sensors to Ricoh Imaging (and Fujifilm) - Page 2 - PentaxForums.com
which could legitimately explain why the K-3 followup has taken so long and stocks have sagged so much - this sort of thing always takes longer than anyone would reasonably forecast.
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this sort of thing always takes longer
For Ricoh

QuoteOriginally posted by reh321 Quote
than anyone would reasonably forecast.
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QuoteOriginally posted by fsge Quote
Impressive specs, such a sensor would require complete change of electronics and processing
what wouldnt be a bad thing to do IMHO.
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