K-1 II upgrade program extended in Canada due to unexpectedly high demand

solitudebound · 09-19-2018, 05:51 AM

Perhaps it is not over demand but a problem with initial supply. Obviously not all regions get the same supply at the same time. When i looked into scheduling with Suncamera for the mk2 upgrade a while back they already had a delay on the estimates and that was months ago.
My first K-1 (mk1) took over two months to come in.

I didn't get the mk2 upgrade in the end. Put the money towards the new 50mm f1.4, much better investment.

Last edited by solitudebound; 09-19-2018 at 05:58 AM.

Scintilla · 09-19-2018, 06:55 AM

Originally posted by normhead

My guess based on forum responses is, as long as you aren't going to have to eat craft dinner for a year to pay for it, odds are good you'll like it.

Or if you already do eat Kraft Dinner, then make that "as long as you won't have to forgo the expensive ketchup".

**Belnan** · 09-19-2018, 07:21 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by savoche

Always good to see when Ricoh is surprised by high demand.

I find it funny that they always seem to be surprised about the demand.

Maybe they feel like Pentax is doomed.

Dr_who · 09-19-2018, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by bdery

I've been ni touch with Sun Cameras who do Pentax-Ricoh repais and perform the upgrade from the K-1 to K-1 II.

They have extended the program until "at least" the end of October because demand is too high. In fact, it's currently not possible to send your camera for the upgrade as they are waiting for more parts. The parts they have or have ordered are spoken for until the end of October, and they asked me to contact them only at that time since they won't have anything until then.

Great news, I think, it means Pentax users are more numerous than expected, and interested in upgrading!

Pentax users are more numerous or Pentax didn't make enough parts is another way to look at it. At least they are willing to extend it past Photokina, not that I'm expecting anything other than confirming some lenses at the event for 2019/2020

Kunzite · 09-19-2018, 02:22 PM

I would register / submit the signed application form before the end of September.

They might've been extending the upgrade operation, but not the application itself.
The Hamburg service told me they'll be accepting registrations until the end of the month, by the way.

funkythiru · 09-19-2018, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by bdery

Having tested the K-1 II for the upcoming Pentaxforums review, the noise handling, better AF and added perks definitely swayed me over. I'm doing the upgrade.

When is the review to be published?

bdery · 09-20-2018, 04:38 AM

Originally posted by funkythiru

When is the review to be published?

It's with the editor right now.

funkythiru · 09-20-2018, 04:56 AM

Originally posted by bdery

It's with the editor right now.

Good to know thanks for the sneak peek

normhead · 09-20-2018, 05:23 AM

Originally posted by Belnan

I find it funny that they always seem to be surprised about the demand.

Maybe they feel like Pentax is doomed.

That's code for "we didn't make enough parts."

reh321 · 09-20-2018, 06:17 AM

Originally posted by normhead

That's code for "we didn't make enough parts."

You think these parts are any different than those going into new cameras??

bdery · 09-20-2018, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by reh321

You think these parts are any different than those going into new cameras??

No reason. They're changing the PCB (main board), mostly, then pushing the correct firmware.

derekkite · 09-20-2018, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by bdery

No reason. They're changing the PCB (main board), mostly, then pushing the correct firmware.

No specific knowledge, but the package would include seals and any assembly bits and pieces required for the job. And the main board. This would have been a production run at some factory somewhere. They didn't do enough, and they are no doubt arranging

What I find heartening is that the overwhelming bad reviews are being ignored. Nothing I have read about the upgrade matches my experience. I simply will not pay the slightest bit of attention to those people; they are untrustworthy.

reh321 · 09-20-2018, 12:20 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by derekkite

What I find heartening is that the overwhelming bad reviews are being ignored. Nothing I have read about the upgrade matches my experience. I simply will not pay the slightest bit of attention to those people; they are untrustworthy.

I have seen only a couple distinct sources of bad comments - their agenda / approach is different from mine, so I have largely ignored them from the beginning.

bdery · 09-21-2018, 04:53 AM

Originally posted by derekkite

What I find heartening is that the overwhelming bad reviews are being ignored. Nothing I have read about the upgrade matches my experience. I simply will not pay the slightest bit of attention to those people; they are untrustworthy.

I hope you find the upcoming review more accurate and closer to your experience.

Having tested the K-1 II extensively, I cannot begin to see how some "big guns" websites could dismiss it so easily. Maybe they don't know how to use a Pentax camera and can't be bothered to learn, or maybe there's something else.

totsmuyco · 09-21-2018, 05:31 AM

Originally posted by derekkite

No specific knowledge, but the package would include seals and any assembly bits and pieces required for the job. And the main board. This would have been a production run at some factory somewhere. They didn't do enough, and they are no doubt arranging

What I find heartening is that the overwhelming bad reviews are being ignored. Nothing I have read about the upgrade matches my experience. I simply will not pay the slightest bit of attention to those people; they are untrustworthy.

It's either crab mentality or gear envy. People from other brands will never accept that Pentax is good enough to do the job. Just take a look at how cameraville reviewed the k-1 vs. the d850. Now that was a side by side proof and I think the k-1 simply kicked the d850. Some of those guys can't just accept that.

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09-19-2018, 05:51 AM	#16
solitudebound Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 140	Perhaps it is not over demand but a problem with initial supply. Obviously not all regions get the same supply at the same time. When i looked into scheduling with Suncamera for the mk2 upgrade a while back they already had a delay on the estimates and that was months ago. My first K-1 (mk1) took over two months to come in. I didn't get the mk2 upgrade in the end. Put the money towards the new 50mm f1.4, much better investment. Last edited by solitudebound; 09-19-2018 at 05:58 AM.

09-19-2018, 06:55 AM	#17
Scintilla Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 347	Originally posted by normhead My guess based on forum responses is, as long as you aren't going to have to eat craft dinner for a year to pay for it, odds are good you'll like it. Or if you already do eat Kraft Dinner, then make that "as long as you won't have to forgo the expensive ketchup".

09-19-2018, 07:21 AM - 1 Like	#18
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	Originally posted by savoche Always good to see when Ricoh is surprised by high demand. I find it funny that they always seem to be surprised about the demand. Maybe they feel like Pentax is doomed.

09-19-2018, 02:06 PM	#19
Dr_who Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 777	Originally posted by bdery I've been ni touch with Sun Cameras who do Pentax-Ricoh repais and perform the upgrade from the K-1 to K-1 II. They have extended the program until "at least" the end of October because demand is too high. In fact, it's currently not possible to send your camera for the upgrade as they are waiting for more parts. The parts they have or have ordered are spoken for until the end of October, and they asked me to contact them only at that time since they won't have anything until then. Great news, I think, it means Pentax users are more numerous than expected, and interested in upgrading! Pentax users are more numerous or Pentax didn't make enough parts is another way to look at it. At least they are willing to extend it past Photokina, not that I'm expecting anything other than confirming some lenses at the event for 2019/2020

09-19-2018, 02:22 PM	#20
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	I would register / submit the signed application form before the end of September. They might've been extending the upgrade operation, but not the application itself. The Hamburg service told me they'll be accepting registrations until the end of the month, by the way.

09-19-2018, 02:38 PM	#21
funkythiru Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Chicago Posts: 291	Originally posted by bdery Having tested the K-1 II for the upcoming Pentaxforums review, the noise handling, better AF and added perks definitely swayed me over. I'm doing the upgrade. When is the review to be published?

09-20-2018, 04:38 AM	#22
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,362 Original Poster	Originally posted by funkythiru When is the review to be published? It's with the editor right now.

09-20-2018, 04:56 AM	#23
funkythiru Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Chicago Posts: 291	Originally posted by bdery It's with the editor right now. Good to know thanks for the sneak peek

09-20-2018, 05:23 AM	#24
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Belnan I find it funny that they always seem to be surprised about the demand. Maybe they feel like Pentax is doomed. That's code for "we didn't make enough parts."

09-20-2018, 06:17 AM	#25
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,184	Originally posted by normhead That's code for "we didn't make enough parts." You think these parts are any different than those going into new cameras??

09-20-2018, 07:43 AM	#26
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,362 Original Poster	Originally posted by reh321 You think these parts are any different than those going into new cameras?? No reason. They're changing the PCB (main board), mostly, then pushing the correct firmware.

09-20-2018, 11:42 AM	#27
derekkite Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nelson B.C. Posts: 3,782	Originally posted by bdery No reason. They're changing the PCB (main board), mostly, then pushing the correct firmware. No specific knowledge, but the package would include seals and any assembly bits and pieces required for the job. And the main board. This would have been a production run at some factory somewhere. They didn't do enough, and they are no doubt arranging What I find heartening is that the overwhelming bad reviews are being ignored. Nothing I have read about the upgrade matches my experience. I simply will not pay the slightest bit of attention to those people; they are untrustworthy.

09-20-2018, 12:20 PM - 1 Like	#28
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,184	Originally posted by derekkite What I find heartening is that the overwhelming bad reviews are being ignored. Nothing I have read about the upgrade matches my experience. I simply will not pay the slightest bit of attention to those people; they are untrustworthy. I have seen only a couple distinct sources of bad comments - their agenda / approach is different from mine, so I have largely ignored them from the beginning.

09-21-2018, 04:53 AM	#29
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,362 Original Poster	Originally posted by derekkite What I find heartening is that the overwhelming bad reviews are being ignored. Nothing I have read about the upgrade matches my experience. I simply will not pay the slightest bit of attention to those people; they are untrustworthy. I hope you find the upcoming review more accurate and closer to your experience. Having tested the K-1 II extensively, I cannot begin to see how some "big guns" websites could dismiss it so easily. Maybe they don't know how to use a Pentax camera and can't be bothered to learn, or maybe there's something else.

09-21-2018, 05:31 AM	#30
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	Originally posted by derekkite No specific knowledge, but the package would include seals and any assembly bits and pieces required for the job. And the main board. This would have been a production run at some factory somewhere. They didn't do enough, and they are no doubt arranging What I find heartening is that the overwhelming bad reviews are being ignored. Nothing I have read about the upgrade matches my experience. I simply will not pay the slightest bit of attention to those people; they are untrustworthy. It's either crab mentality or gear envy. People from other brands will never accept that Pentax is good enough to do the job. Just take a look at how cameraville reviewed the k-1 vs. the d850. Now that was a side by side proof and I think the k-1 simply kicked the d850. Some of those guys can't just accept that.